30 Jul
2023
30 Jul
'23
11:19 p.m.
Hi there everyone, glad to join the list.
I’m curious about duple minor contra sequences that are written for 3-part
AABBCC tunes. Can anyone share or point me to any such dances?
My question is partly inspired by Gene Hubert’s *Fan In The Doorwa*y,
written for three part *slip* jigs. I’m pretty sure I’ve run across
sequences written for AABCC tunes (no repeat on the B). I might even have
spotted some 4–face-4’s written for full 3-part tunes on ibiblio (the
database seems to be down as I write this so I can’t confirm). But so far
I’m coming up empty for AABBCC duple minors.
If you’ve got anything I’d be much obliged.
-Joseph Erhard-Hudson
30 Jul
30 Jul
11:52 p.m.
I'm pretty sure that Claude Ginsberg's tune, Oddville Cupola, is AABBCC.
Erik Weberg wrote his dance, "Ad Vielle," specifically to go with that
tune, though the dance is written in the usual AABB format. Maybe not what
you're looking for. I can't pull the dance up on caller's box right now,
but here it is:
*Ad Vielle*
Erik Weberg
Duple improper, Becket
*(Begins in wavy lines across, Larks in the middle w/R hands joined)*
A1 Wave of 4 balance forward/back
Let go, walk to new waves
Waves balance F/B, Allemande L ~3/4
A2 Partner B&S
B1 Circle L 3/4, pass through
New neighbor swing
B2 Robins allemande R 1 1/2
Partner allemande L 1 1/4 to wave across
-Amy
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Hi there everyone, glad to join the list.
I’m curious about duple minor contra sequences that are written for 3-part
AABBCC tunes. Can anyone share or point me to any such dances?
My question is partly inspired by Gene Hubert’s *Fan In The Doorwa*y,
written for three part *slip* jigs. I’m pretty sure I’ve run across
sequences written for AABCC tunes (no repeat on the B). I might even have
spotted some 4–face-4’s written for full 3-part tunes on ibiblio (the
database seems to be down as I write this so I can’t confirm). But so far
I’m coming up empty for AABBCC duple minors.
If you’ve got anything I’d be much obliged.
-Joseph Erhard-Hudson
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31 Jul
12:08 a.m.
That’s interesting to know, thanks. Not what I’m looking for but I
appreciate learning about the dance and the tune. I wasn’t familiar with
either and I like them both!
I’m definitely looking for 48 bar/96 beat sequences that will align
precisely with a three-part tune. I’m thinking of the tune Banish
Misfortune in particular.
-Joseph
On Sun, Jul 30, 2023 at 8:52 PM Amy Wimmer <amywimmer(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I'm pretty sure that Claude Ginsberg's tune,
Oddville Cupola, is AABBCC.
Erik Weberg wrote his dance, "Ad Vielle," specifically to go with that
tune, though the dance is written in the usual AABB format. Maybe not what
you're looking for. I can't pull the dance up on caller's box right now,
but here it is:
*Ad Vielle*
Erik Weberg
Duple improper, Becket
*(Begins in wavy lines across, Larks in the middle w/R hands joined)*
A1 Wave of 4 balance forward/back
Let go, walk to new waves
Waves balance F/B, Allemande L ~3/4
A2 Partner B&S
B1 Circle L 3/4, pass through
New neighbor swing
B2 Robins allemande R 1 1/2
Partner allemande L 1 1/4 to wave across
-Amy
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contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Hi there everyone, glad to join the list.
I’m curious about duple minor contra sequences that are written for
3-part AABBCC tunes. Can anyone share or point me to any such dances?
My question is partly inspired by Gene Hubert’s *Fan In The Doorwa*y,
written for three part *slip* jigs. I’m pretty sure I’ve run across
sequences written for AABCC tunes (no repeat on the B). I might even have
spotted some 4–face-4’s written for full 3-part tunes on ibiblio (the
database seems to be down as I write this so I can’t confirm). But so far
I’m coming up empty for AABBCC duple minors.
If you’ve got anything I’d be much obliged.
-Joseph Erhard-Hudson
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New subject: "Oddville Cupola"
On 2023-07-30 11:52 p.m., Amy Wimmer via Contra Callers wrote:
I'm pretty sure that Claude Ginsberg's tune,
Oddville Cupola, is AABBCC.
Erik Weberg wrote his dance, "Ad Vielle," specifically to go with that tune,
though the dance is written in the usual AABB format.
'Oddville Cupola' is actually AABBCCDD. Yup, 64 bars.
So any standard-format contra dance will 'fit',
you just go twice through the dance for once through the tune.
It's track 2 on KGB's "Volga Notions" album.
The notes say:
The most striking architectural feature in Coon Rapids, Iowa,
is the large cupola, visible for miles. Claude heard this tune
while slogging up the 764 steps to the cupola apex.
However, I suspect they're kidding.
Mike Richardson wrote a double-length English dance to go with the tune.
It's called "Cupid All Do Love", an anagram of the tune name.
-Michael
12:16 a.m.
“40 Years of Penguin Pam” by Seth Tepfer is a personal favorite. It goes really well with
Hangman’s Reel.
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Contra Callers <contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Hi there everyone, glad to join the list.
I’m curious about duple minor contra sequences that are written for 3-part AABBCC tunes.
Can anyone share or point me to any such dances?
My question is partly inspired by Gene Hubert’s Fan In The Doorway, written for three
part *slip* jigs. I’m pretty sure I’ve run across sequences written for AABCC tunes (no
repeat on the B). I might even have spotted some 4–face-4’s written for full 3-part tunes
on ibiblio (the database seems to be down as I write this so I can’t confirm). But so far
I’m coming up empty for AABBCC duple minors.
If you’ve got anything I’d be much obliged.
-Joseph Erhard-Hudson
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3:14 a.m.
A few are in my collection.
Beatrice By Erik Hoffman
Flirting with Bobbie Jo – Seth Tepfer
Shutesbury Reel - David Kaynor
Have the choreography if anyone would like it.
Rich
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Hi there everyone, glad to join the list.
I’m curious about duple minor contra sequences that are written for 3-part AABBCC tunes.
Can anyone share or point me to any such dances?
My question is partly inspired by Gene Hubert’s Fan In The Doorway, written for three
part *slip* jigs. I’m pretty sure I’ve run across sequences written for AABCC tunes (no
repeat on the B). I might even have spotted some 4–face-4’s written for full 3-part tunes
on ibiblio (the database seems to be down as I write this so I can’t confirm). But so far
I’m coming up empty for AABBCC duple minors.
If you’ve got anything I’d be much obliged.
-Joseph Erhard-Hudson
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6:46 a.m.
Going by memory only, I believe there's a double becket called Major Hey by
Charley [last name escapes me], the pattern is AABCC though. I've called it
and dropped a bit of choreography to make it AABB, I'm betting there's a
way to add choreography for an AABBCC structure.
Jerome Grisanti
On Mon, Jul 31, 2023, 3:14 AM Rich Goss via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
A few are in my collection.
Beatrice By Erik Hoffman
Flirting with Bobbie Jo – Seth Tepfer
Shutesbury Reel - David Kaynor
Have the choreography if anyone would like it.
Rich
On Jul 30, 2023, at 9:16 PM, Quiann2 via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
“40 Years of Penguin Pam” by Seth Tepfer is a personal favorite. It goes
really well with Hangman’s Reel.
On Jul 30, 2023, at 20:20, Joseph Erhard-Hudson via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Hi there everyone, glad to join the list.
I’m curious about duple minor contra sequences that are written for 3-part
AABBCC tunes. Can anyone share or point me to any such dances?
My question is partly inspired by Gene Hubert’s *Fan In The Doorwa*y,
written for three part *slip* jigs. I’m pretty sure I’ve run across
sequences written for AABCC tunes (no repeat on the B). I might even have
spotted some 4–face-4’s written for full 3-part tunes on ibiblio (the
database seems to be down as I write this so I can’t confirm). But so far
I’m coming up empty for AABBCC duple minors.
If you’ve got anything I’d be much obliged.
-Joseph Erhard-Hudson
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7:41 a.m.
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 06:46:08 -0400, Jerome Grisanti via Contra Callers wrote:
Going by memory only, I believe there's a double
becket called Major Hey by Charley [last name escapes me], the
pattern is AABCC though. I've called it and dropped a bit of choreography to make it
AABB, I'm betting there's a way
to add choreography for an AABBCC structure.
It's by Eric Hoffman and it is indeed 40 bars. I wouldn't want to drop any of it
though.
Colin Hume
8:38 a.m.
New subject: [External] Re: AABBCC contras?
Major Hey by Erik Hoffman is a favorite dance of mine. The original is AABCC, but I
frequently vary it to call it AABBCC. The database behind Caller's Box seems to be
down right now (Michael Dyck and Chris Page, you are aware of this right?) so here's
the dance:
Original:
Title: Major Hey
Author: Erik Hoffman
Formation: 4-4, each couple becket
A1: Circle left 3/4; up and down pass thru next neighbor swing
A2: Long lines; Larks/gents allemande left 1.5 to give right to partner in long waves of
8
B1: Balance, slide right (past partner); balance left, slide left (past partner), face
partner and slight pull right into
C1: ½ hey for 8, pass P right to begin
C2: Partner balance and swing
To make it AABBCC, I do this:
Title: Major Hey
Author: Erik Hoffman
Formation: 4-4, each couple becket
A1: Circle left 3/4; up and down pass thru next neighbor DSD
A2: Neighbor balance and swing
B1: Long lines; Larks/gents allemande left 1.5 to give right to partner in long waves of
8
B2: Balance, slide right (past partner); balance left, slide left (past partner), face
partner and slight pull right into
C1: ½ hey for 8, pass P right to begin
C2: Partner balance and swing
Seth Tepfer, MBA, CSM, PMP (he, him, his)
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Subject: [External] [Callers] Re: AABBCC contras?
Going by memory only, I believe there's a double becket called Major Hey by Charley
[last name escapes me], the pattern is AABCC though. I've called it and dropped a bit
of choreography to make it AABB, I'm betting there's a way to add choreography for
an AABBCC structure.
Jerome Grisanti
On Mon, Jul 31, 2023, 3:14 AM Rich Goss via Contra Callers
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wrote:
A few are in my collection.
Beatrice By Erik Hoffman
Flirting with Bobbie Jo – Seth Tepfer
Shutesbury Reel - David Kaynor
Have the choreography if anyone would like it.
Rich
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“40 Years of Penguin Pam” by Seth Tepfer is a personal favorite. It goes really well with
Hangman’s Reel.
On Jul 30, 2023, at 20:20, Joseph Erhard-Hudson via Contra Callers
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wrote:
Hi there everyone, glad to join the list.
I’m curious about duple minor contra sequences that are written for 3-part AABBCC tunes.
Can anyone share or point me to any such dances?
My question is partly inspired by Gene Hubert’s Fan In The Doorway, written for three part
*slip* jigs. I’m pretty sure I’ve run across sequences written for AABCC tunes (no repeat
on the B). I might even have spotted some 4–face-4’s written for full 3-part tunes on
ibiblio (the database seems to be down as I write this so I can’t confirm). But so far I’m
coming up empty for AABBCC duple minors.
If you’ve got anything I’d be much obliged.
-Joseph Erhard-Hudson
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New subject: [External] Re: AABBCC contras?
Seth’s version of the Major Hey (below) as an AABBCC dance, I’ll use it!
Thanks, Seth
~Erik Hoffman
Oakland, CA
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Subject: [Callers] Re: [External] Re: AABBCC contras?
Major Hey by Erik Hoffman is a favorite dance of mine. The original is AABCC, but I
frequently vary it to call it AABBCC. The database behind Caller's Box seems to be
down right now (Michael Dyck and
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Major Hey by Erik Hoffman is a favorite dance of mine. The original is AABCC, but I
frequently vary it to call it AABBCC. The database behind Caller's Box seems to be
down right now (Michael Dyck and Chris Page, you are aware of this right?) so here's
the dance:
Original:
Title: Major Hey
Author: Erik Hoffman
Formation: 4-4, each couple becket
A1: Circle left 3/4; up and down pass thru next neighbor swing
A2: Long lines; Larks/gents allemande left 1.5 to give right to partner in long waves of
8
B1: Balance, slide right (past partner); balance left, slide left (past partner), face
partner and slight pull right into
C1: ½ hey for 8, pass P right to begin
C2: Partner balance and swing
To make it AABBCC, I do this:
Title: Major Hey
Author: Erik Hoffman
Formation: 4-4, each couple becket
A1: Circle left 3/4; up and down pass thru next neighbor DSD
A2: Neighbor balance and swing
B1: Long lines; Larks/gents allemande left 1.5 to give right to partner in long waves of
8
B2: Balance, slide right (past partner); balance left, slide left (past partner), face
partner and slight pull right into
C1: ½ hey for 8, pass P right to begin
C2: Partner balance and swing
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Subject: [External] [Callers] Re: AABBCC contras?
Going by memory only, I believe there's a double becket called Major Hey by Charley
[last name escapes me], the pattern is AABCC though. I've called it and dropped a bit
of choreography to make it AABB, I'm betting there's a way to add choreography for
an AABBCC structure.
Jerome Grisanti
On Mon, Jul 31, 2023, 3:14 AM Rich Goss via Contra Callers
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wrote:
A few are in my collection.
Beatrice By Erik Hoffman
Flirting with Bobbie Jo – Seth Tepfer
Shutesbury Reel - David Kaynor
Have the choreography if anyone would like it.
Rich
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“40 Years of Penguin Pam” by Seth Tepfer is a personal favorite. It goes really well with
Hangman’s Reel.
On Jul 30, 2023, at 20:20, Joseph Erhard-Hudson via Contra Callers
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Hi there everyone, glad to join the list.
I’m curious about duple minor contra sequences that are written for 3-part AABBCC tunes.
Can anyone share or point me to any such dances?
My question is partly inspired by Gene Hubert’s Fan In The Doorway, written for three part
*slip* jigs. I’m pretty sure I’ve run across sequences written for AABCC tunes (no repeat
on the B). I might even have spotted some 4–face-4’s written for full 3-part tunes on
ibiblio (the database seems to be down as I write this so I can’t confirm). But so far I’m
coming up empty for AABBCC duple minors.
If you’ve got anything I’d be much obliged.
-Joseph Erhard-Hudson
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11:09 a.m.
There is also Pink Pigtails by John Meechan with a tune by Dave Brown.
Pink Pigtails
John Meechan
Duple improper, double progression
A1 Circle L; swing nbr.
A2 Mad Robin (larks in front of robins); half a ricochet hey (larks start passing RSh,
robins ricochet).
B1 Balance & swing ptnr.
B2 Balance the ring, petronella; balance the ring, California twirl ptnr.
C1 Dosido new nbr to a wave; balance the wave, trade the wave*.
C2 Balance new wave, trade the wave; balance the wave, move on to next nbr.
* Trade the wave - trade place with ptnr in wave, larks taking the longer track.
If you would the music by Dave Brown email me.
Graham
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A few are in my collection.
Beatrice By Erik Hoffman
Flirting with Bobbie Jo – Seth Tepfer
Shutesbury Reel - David Kaynor
Have the choreography if anyone would like it.
Rich
On Jul 30, 2023, at 9:16 PM, Quiann2 via Contra
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Hi there everyone, glad to join the list.
I’m curious about duple minor contra sequences that are written for 3-part AABBCC tunes.
Can anyone share or point me to any such dances?
My question is partly inspired by Gene Hubert’s Fan In The Doorway, written for three
part *slip* jigs. I’m pretty sure I’ve run across sequences written for AABCC tunes (no
repeat on the B). I might even have spotted some 4–face-4’s written for full 3-part tunes
on ibiblio (the database seems to be down as I write this so I can’t confirm). But so far
I’m coming up empty for AABBCC duple minors.
If you’ve got anything I’d be much obliged.
-Joseph Erhard-Hudson
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11:33 a.m.
New subject: Going rates for ONS dances?
Hello hive mind
The costs of everything have gone up post-COVID. What are you charging for one-off dance
events, aka One Night Stand dances? Assuming:
* you, the caller, are running sound and providing sound equipment
* there is no band
* It is 90 minutes give or take
* it is NOT a wedding
* no alcohol (hat-tip to Tony Parkes - if alcohol, double your fee!)
If the assumptions above are not true (there is a band, it is a wedding, there is alcohol,
etc), how does that change your rates?
Seth
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New subject: Going rates for ONS dances?
Hi Seth,
Not sure if my UK perspective will be relevant. I charge 225
GBP plus petrol. The cost is the same whether it is twenty minutes or four
hours (I have done both!) but usually more like 2.5 to 3 hours. Whatever
the length it means I can't do anything else that evening.
Weddings are the same price. I only charge more if they want
me to travel more than an hour each way - then I make the price prohibitive,
but they still occasionally pay!
Happy dancing,
John
John Sweeney, Dancer, England john(a)modernjive.com 01233 625 362 & 07802
940 574
http://www.contrafusion.co.uk for Dancing in Kent
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Subject: [Callers] Going rates for ONS dances?
Hello hive mind
The costs of everything have gone up post-COVID. What are you charging for
one-off dance events, aka One Night Stand dances? Assuming:
* you, the caller, are running sound and providing sound equipment
* there is no band
* It is 90 minutes give or take
* it is NOT a wedding
* no alcohol (hat-tip to Tony Parkes - if alcohol, double your fee!)
If the assumptions above are not true (there is a band, it is a wedding,
there is alcohol, etc), how does that change your rates?
Seth
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New subject: Going rates for ONS dances?
A clarification: "If alcohol, double your fee" is something I heard years ago
from a few veteran callers. I used to charge a bit more for "wet" events than
"dry" ones, but found I had to work just as hard at the "dry" ones, so
started charging the higher rate to everyone.
Currently I ask $475 for corporate or private events, $400 for nonprofits. I've been
told by a couple of top callers that I could/should be charging more, but when I've
tried raising the rates, I've gotten so many turndowns that I make more money with the
lower rates.
My rate includes travel within ~1 hour of home, and once I'm there, I'm willing to
stay up to 4 hours. I always recommend 1.5 to 2 hours of actual dancing if people
aren't used to it, but I make it clear that I'll call as long as people want to
dance. Almost never does anyone take me up on it; typically they've had enough after
90 minutes.
Rate changes: I ask $500 if it's a wedding, to cover repeated interactions with the
client before the day. (Top DJs often ask a LOT more for weddings than for other family
parties.) I'm willing to dicker if I don't have to bring, set up, and run sound,
but I have to be sure that the gear and the operator will be adequate. My one-nighter rate
for calling & sound is the same whether or not there's a band - obviously it's
more work to do sound for 4 people than for 1, but the energy of a live band makes up for
it.
Tony Parkes
Billerica, Mass.
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Subject: [Callers] Going rates for ONS dances?
Hello hive mind
The costs of everything have gone up post-COVID. What are you charging for one-off dance
events, aka One Night Stand dances? Assuming:
* you, the caller, are running sound and providing sound equipment
* there is no band
* It is 90 minutes give or take
* it is NOT a wedding
* no alcohol (hat-tip to Tony Parkes - if alcohol, double your fee!)
If the assumptions above are not true (there is a band, it is a wedding, there is alcohol,
etc), how does that change your rates?
Seth
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12:15 p.m.
New subject: Going rates for ONS dances?
Seth,
My going rate is $50 per hour, portal to portal, plus a $50-$100 charge for
a sound system, and $0.62 per mile rountrip.
It may seem high but ONS dances are my specialty, and I am turning dances
down. My minimum rate is $300.
This Sunday I have two gigs. A one hour at $350, and a 2 hour at $500.
Both of these are with pre-recorded music. I generally add $300-$350 per
musician when I use live music, and then the sound system is $100. I am
careful to explain that my fee is all inclusive and includes travel to and
from, insurance, music and music licensing, a professional sound system,
all necessary instruction, and calling the dances.
Alcohol has never changed my rate. I might add an hour or two to a
wedding, because they are never on schedule. I require a non-refundable
$50 deposit for weddings, a non-refundable, but reusable 50% deposit on all
uncovered outdoor dances. (This deposit can be applied to a mutually
acceptable date in the future.)
All that being said, I may on occasion take less. Soon I will be calling
at a regional bluegrass festival for less, but they have included an all
festival pass with camping privileges and limited hospitality. If I am
connected to an organizer, or to an organization, I may call for 50%, or
free.
There are always exceptions, but my standard quote is as described above,
and most customers accept the quote.
Hope this helps,
Rich Sbardella
Stafford Springs, CT
On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 11:34 AM Tepfer, Seth via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Hello hive mind
The costs of everything have gone up post-COVID. What are you charging for
one-off dance events, aka One Night Stand dances? Assuming:
- you, the caller, are running sound and providing sound equipment
- there is no band
- It is 90 minutes give or take
- it is NOT a wedding
- no alcohol (hat-tip to Tony Parkes - if alcohol, double your fee!)
If the assumptions above are not true (there is a band, it is a wedding,
there is alcohol, etc), how does that change your rates?
Seth
Seth Tepfer, MBA, CSM, PMP (he, him, his)
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1:10 p.m.
New subject: Going rates for ONS dances?
I price things approximately:
- $75-150 for just the sound equipment rental, which is basically just
passing my cost from who I'm able to borrow it.
- $250 - $500 for the calling itself, which can depend on how long, whether
there's alcohol, experience of dancers, whether it's a nonprofit/good
cause, other factors, etc
- $50-150 for sound setup, which can depend on how many band inputs, how
long I need to lug heavy speakers up steps and whatnot, etc.
- travel $ appropriate to distance
- another $200 or so for prerecorded music. Honestly, it's just such a pain
to have to manage both calling and music player, choose music in advance
and adapt on the fly, etc. And, if you're not paying ASCAP fees or
expressly have the artist's permission or are using public domain music,
it's technically not legal.
My feelings are that if people don't want to pay artists at least a living
per hour wage, then it's not sustainable and not ethical to undercut a gig.
(Again, notwithstanding considerations like charity or nonprofits, friends'
events, helping out financially struggling org, etc)
I live in Massachusetts, so that may affect cost of living in the area.
In dance,
Julian Blechner
On Mon, Jul 31, 2023, 12:16 PM Rich Sbardella via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Seth,
My going rate is $50 per hour, portal to portal, plus a $50-$100 charge
for a sound system, and $0.62 per mile rountrip.
It may seem high but ONS dances are my specialty, and I am turning dances
down. My minimum rate is $300.
This Sunday I have two gigs. A one hour at $350, and a 2 hour at $500.
Both of these are with pre-recorded music. I generally add $300-$350 per
musician when I use live music, and then the sound system is $100. I am
careful to explain that my fee is all inclusive and includes travel to and
from, insurance, music and music licensing, a professional sound system,
all necessary instruction, and calling the dances.
Alcohol has never changed my rate. I might add an hour or two to a
wedding, because they are never on schedule. I require a non-refundable
$50 deposit for weddings, a non-refundable, but reusable 50% deposit on all
uncovered outdoor dances. (This deposit can be applied to a mutually
acceptable date in the future.)
All that being said, I may on occasion take less. Soon I will be calling
at a regional bluegrass festival for less, but they have included an all
festival pass with camping privileges and limited hospitality. If I am
connected to an organizer, or to an organization, I may call for 50%, or
free.
There are always exceptions, but my standard quote is as described above,
and most customers accept the quote.
Hope this helps,
Rich Sbardella
Stafford Springs, CT
On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 11:34 AM Tepfer, Seth via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Hello hive mind
The costs of everything have gone up post-COVID. What are you charging
for one-off dance events, aka One Night Stand dances? Assuming:
- you, the caller, are running sound and providing sound equipment
- there is no band
- It is 90 minutes give or take
- it is NOT a wedding
- no alcohol (hat-tip to Tony Parkes - if alcohol, double your fee!)
If the assumptions above are not true (there is a band, it is a wedding,
there is alcohol, etc), how does that change your rates?
Seth
Seth Tepfer, MBA, CSM, PMP (he, him, his)
Senior IT Manager, Emory Primate Center
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12:12 p.m.
This week at Pinewoods I got to call Utah Reel by Jeremy Korr, which was
fun! I've also got one which is uh, not suuuper battle-tested but is fun in
theory: Poly Wanna Corner
<https://contra.maiamccormick.com/dances.html#polywannacorner>.
--
Maia McCormick (she/her)
917.279.8194
On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 11:10 AM Graham Knight via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
There is also Pink Pigtails by John Meechan with a
tune by Dave Brown.
Pink Pigtails
John Meechan
Duple improper, double progression
A1 Circle L; swing nbr.
A2 Mad Robin (larks in front of robins); half a ricochet hey (larks
start passing RSh, robins ricochet).
B1 Balance & swing ptnr.
B2 Balance the ring, petronella; balance the ring, California twirl ptnr.
C1 Dosido new nbr to a wave; balance the wave, trade the wave*.
C2 Balance new wave, trade the wave; balance the wave, move on to next
nbr.
* Trade the wave - trade place with ptnr in wave, larks taking the longer
track.
If you would the music by Dave Brown email me.
Graham
On 31 Jul 2023, at 08:14, Rich Goss via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
A few are in my collection.
Beatrice By Erik Hoffman
Flirting with Bobbie Jo – Seth Tepfer
Shutesbury Reel - David Kaynor
Have the choreography if anyone would like it.
Rich
On Jul 30, 2023, at 9:16 PM, Quiann2 via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
“40 Years of Penguin Pam” by Seth Tepfer is a personal favorite. It goes
really well with Hangman’s Reel.
On Jul 30, 2023, at 20:20, Joseph Erhard-Hudson via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Hi there everyone, glad to join the list.
I’m curious about duple minor contra sequences that are written for 3-part
AABBCC tunes. Can anyone share or point me to any such dances?
My question is partly inspired by Gene Hubert’s *Fan In The Doorwa*y,
written for three part *slip* jigs. I’m pretty sure I’ve run across
sequences written for AABCC tunes (no repeat on the B). I might even have
spotted some 4–face-4’s written for full 3-part tunes on ibiblio (the
database seems to be down as I write this so I can’t confirm). But so far
I’m coming up empty for AABBCC duple minors.
If you’ve got anything I’d be much obliged.
-Joseph Erhard-Hudson
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1:22 p.m.
Hi all, I call David Kaynor's Shutesbury Reel pretty often.
One thing I've noticed about calling a 48 bar dance is the fact that the dancers seem
to be "pre-programed' to "go back to the beginning" after 32 bars (or
at least programmed not to have to remember any more than the AABB). This makes it hard to
let go of calling after a couple times through, even with an experienced group of dancers.
Actually the same is true for Cherokee Shuffle which is only 36 bars and I am quite sure
for any dance that is not 4 x 8 measures AABB.
I actually think it's good to challenge experienced dancers this way,.. but be
prepared!
bill
________________________________
From: Graham Knight via Contra Callers <contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net>
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2023 3:09 PM
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Cc: Joseph Erhard-Hudson <josephatthecoop(a)gmail.com>
Subject: [Callers] Re: AABBCC contras?
There is also Pink Pigtails by John Meechan with a tune by Dave Brown.
Pink Pigtails
John Meechan
Duple improper, double progression
A1 Circle L; swing nbr.
A2 Mad Robin (larks in front of robins); half a ricochet hey (larks start passing RSh,
robins ricochet).
B1 Balance & swing ptnr.
B2 Balance the ring, petronella; balance the ring, California twirl ptnr.
C1 Dosido new nbr to a wave; balance the wave, trade the wave*.
C2 Balance new wave, trade the wave; balance the wave, move on to next nbr.
* Trade the wave - trade place with ptnr in wave, larks taking the longer track.
If you would the music by Dave Brown email me.
Graham
On 31 Jul 2023, at 08:14, Rich Goss via Contra Callers
<contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net<mailto:contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net>>
wrote:
A few are in my collection.
Beatrice By Erik Hoffman
Flirting with Bobbie Jo – Seth Tepfer
Shutesbury Reel - David Kaynor
Have the choreography if anyone would like it.
Rich
On Jul 30, 2023, at 9:16 PM, Quiann2 via Contra Callers
<contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net<mailto:contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net>>
wrote:
“40 Years of Penguin Pam” by Seth Tepfer is a personal favorite. It goes really well with
Hangman’s Reel.
On Jul 30, 2023, at 20:20, Joseph Erhard-Hudson via Contra Callers
<contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net<mailto:contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net>>
wrote:
Hi there everyone, glad to join the list.
I’m curious about duple minor contra sequences that are written for 3-part AABBCC tunes.
Can anyone share or point me to any such dances?
My question is partly inspired by Gene Hubert’s Fan In The Doorway, written for three part
*slip* jigs. I’m pretty sure I’ve run across sequences written for AABCC tunes (no repeat
on the B). I might even have spotted some 4–face-4’s written for full 3-part tunes on
ibiblio (the database seems to be down as I write this so I can’t confirm). But so far I’m
coming up empty for AABBCC duple minors.
If you’ve got anything I’d be much obliged.
-Joseph Erhard-Hudson
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1:52 p.m.
Hi Bill,
Re difficulties with more than 32 bars: Thomas Wilson 1816:
Wilson says that anything longer that 16 bars of figures "is damned at its
announcement" as it "appears now, in fashionable life, a crime to attempt
anything that requires a capacity beyond what the more sagacious brutes are endowed
with".
:-)
Happy dancing,
John
John Sweeney, Dancer, England john(a)modernjive.com 01233 625 362 & 07802 940 574
http://www.contrafusion.co.uk for Dancing in Kent
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Sent: 31 July 2023 18:23
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Cc: Joseph Erhard-Hudson <josephatthecoop(a)gmail.com>
Subject: [Callers] Re: AABBCC contras?
Hi all, I call David Kaynor's Shutesbury Reel pretty often.
One thing I've noticed about calling a 48 bar dance is the fact that the dancers seem
to be "pre-programed' to "go back to the beginning" after 32 bars (or
at least programmed not to have to remember any more than the AABB). This makes it hard to
let go of calling after a couple times through, even with an experienced group of dancers.
Actually the same is true for Cherokee Shuffle which is only 36 bars and I am quite sure
for any dance that is not 4 x 8 measures AABB.
I actually think it's good to challenge experienced dancers this way,.. but be
prepared!
Bill
1 Aug
1 Aug
12:51 p.m.
Thinking all dances are 32 bars might be less of a problem in the UK since clubs programme
a mixture, not just contra. Different styles, varying lengths
From: Bill Olson via Contra Callers
Sent: 31 July 2023 18:23
To: contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net; Graham Knight
Cc: Joseph Erhard-Hudson
Subject: [Callers] Re: AABBCC contras?
Hi all, I call David Kaynor's Shutesbury Reel pretty often.
One thing I've noticed about calling a 48 bar dance is the fact that the dancers seem
to be "pre-programed' to "go back to the beginning" after 32 bars (or
at least programmed not to have to remember any more than the AABB). This makes it hard to
let go of calling after a couple times through, even with an experienced group of dancers.
Actually the same is true for Cherokee Shuffle which is only 36 bars and I am quite sure
for any dance that is not 4 x 8 measures AABB.
I actually think it's good to challenge experienced dancers this way,.. but be
prepared!
bill
From: Graham Knight via Contra Callers <contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net>
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2023 3:09 PM
To: contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net <contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net>
Cc: Joseph Erhard-Hudson <josephatthecoop(a)gmail.com>
Subject: [Callers] Re: AABBCC contras?
There is also Pink Pigtails by John Meechan with a tune by Dave Brown.
Pink Pigtails
John Meechan
Duple improper, double progression
A1 Circle L; swing nbr.
A2 Mad Robin (larks in front of robins); half a ricochet hey (larks start passing RSh,
robins ricochet).
B1 Balance & swing ptnr.
B2 Balance the ring, petronella; balance the ring, California twirl ptnr.
C1 Dosido new nbr to a wave; balance the wave, trade the wave*.
C2 Balance new wave, trade the wave; balance the wave, move on to next nbr.
* Trade the wave - trade place with ptnr in wave, larks taking the longer track.
If you would the music by Dave Brown email me.
Graham
On 31 Jul 2023, at 08:14, Rich Goss via Contra Callers
<contracallers(a)listssharedweight.net> wrote:
A few are in my collection.
Beatrice By Erik Hoffman
Flirting with Bobbie Jo – Seth Tepfer
Shutesbury Reel - David Kaynor
Have the choreography if anyone would like it.
Rich
On Jul 30, 2023, at 9:16 PM, Quiann2 via Contra Callers
<contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
“40 Years of Penguin Pam” by Seth Tepfer is a personal favorite. It goes really well with
Hangman’s Reel.
On Jul 30, 2023, at 20:20, Joseph Erhard-Hudson via Contra Callers
<contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Hi there everyone, glad to join the list.
I’m curious about duple minor contra sequences that are written for 3-part AABBCC tunes.
Can anyone share or point me to any such dances?
My question is partly inspired by Gene Hubert’s Fan In The Doorway, written for three part
*slip* jigs. I’m pretty sure I’ve run across sequences written for AABCC tunes (no repeat
on the B). I might even have spotted some 4–face-4’s written for full 3-part tunes on
ibiblio (the database seems to be down as I write this so I can’t confirm). But so far I’m
coming up empty for AABBCC duple minors.
If you’ve got anything I’d be much obliged.
-Joseph Erhard-Hudson
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3 Aug
3 Aug
4:23 a.m.
I wrote an AABBCC dance about a year ago that I haven't had the chance to
call yet, based on Don Flaherty's Heartbeat Contra. I wrote it because I
wanted a simple 48-bar dance to pull out for a fun change of pace without
too much added difficulty, but all the ones I could find were far more
complex than I wanted (with uncommon/advanced figures that many beginners
may find daunting). Each move of this dance are all figures that I often
have taught in the first half of our regular monthly Contra Dances. I've
been debating in which order to put the Robins Chain/Long Lines, so feel
free to play with it and do what works best. If anyone chooses to call the
dance, please send me feedback!
_________
96 Heartbeats, by JJ Luxe.
Improper
A1: (16) Balance Ring & Petronella Twirl 2x.
A2: (16) Neighbor Balance & Swing.
B1: (8) Long Lines Fwd & Back.
(8) Robins Chain.
B2: (16) Hey for 4 [Robins start Right].
C1: (16) Partner Balance and Swing.
C2: (8) Circle Left ¾.
(8) Balance Ring and Partner California Twirl, face
new neighbors
On Sun, Jul 30, 2023, 23:19 Joseph Erhard-Hudson via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Hi there everyone, glad to join the list.
I’m curious about duple minor contra sequences that are written for 3-part
AABBCC tunes. Can anyone share or point me to any such dances?
My question is partly inspired by Gene Hubert’s *Fan In The Doorwa*y,
written for three part *slip* jigs. I’m pretty sure I’ve run across
sequences written for AABCC tunes (no repeat on the B). I might even have
spotted some 4–face-4’s written for full 3-part tunes on ibiblio (the
database seems to be down as I write this so I can’t confirm). But so far
I’m coming up empty for AABBCC duple minors.
If you’ve got anything I’d be much obliged.
-Joseph Erhard-Hudson
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7 Aug
7 Aug
10:27 a.m.
New subject: Need Title and Author
Hello friends,
I saw Erik Hoffman's 40-bar dance "Fred Park's Long Drive" online, and
got
to wondering about a 32-bar version without the B2 (ocean wave Rory
O'More), thus going from the hey to the partner balance & swing. Surely
I've seen and danced such a sequence, but I cannot recall the title.
https://www.ibiblio.org/contradance/thecallersbox/dance.php?id=5021
I could thus add a "See Also" reference to each card, so I could use
whichever sequence a band can accommodate.
Thanks!
Jerome
10:48 a.m.
New subject: Need Title and Author
Off the top of my head, Erik’s “Missing Duck” is similar, though with the
hey and Rory reversed:
https://www.ibiblio.org/contradance/thecallersbox/dance.php?id=2754
On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 10:28 AM Jerome Grisanti via Contra Callers <
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Hello friends,
I saw Erik Hoffman's 40-bar dance "Fred Park's Long Drive" online, and
got
to wondering about a 32-bar version without the B2 (ocean wave Rory
O'More), thus going from the hey to the partner balance & swing. Surely
I've seen and danced such a sequence, but I cannot recall the title.
https://www.ibiblio.org/contradance/thecallersbox/dance.php?id=5021
I could thus add a "See Also" reference to each card, so I could use
whichever sequence a band can accommodate.
Thanks!
Jerome
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1:51 p.m.
New subject: Need Title and Author
On my dance, Fred Park’s Long Drive, it can, of course, be converted to a 32 bar dance by
eliminating the B2 Rory O’More figure (something I considered). But I think, with the
recent passing of Fred, it would be appropriate not alter it—at least for the next some
period of time.
I seem to recall it was first called at Warren Wilson College. I was traveling with the
String Beings, and Fred appeared there after a long drive. He liked it.
Fred and I spent a number of nights staying up into the wee hours talking about dances,
teaching, and our lives. I miss him. Besides being a renown story teller, as a dance
caller and teacher, Fred was, among other things, a choreographer, innovator, musician,
historian, mentor, and friend. I miss him.
~Erik Hoffman
Oakland, CA
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Sent: Monday, August 7, 2023 7:48 AM
To: Jerome Grisanti <jerome.grisanti(a)gmail.com>
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Subject: [Callers] Re: Need Title and Author
Off the top of my head, Erik’s “Missing Duck” is similar, though with the hey and Rory
reversed: https://www.ibiblio.org/contradance/thecallersbox/dance.php?id=2754
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Off the top of my head, Erik’s “Missing Duck” is similar, though with the hey and Rory
reversed:
https://www.ibiblio.org/contradance/thecallersbox/dance.php?id=2754<http…
On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 10:28 AM Jerome Grisanti via Contra Callers
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wrote:
Hello friends,
I saw Erik Hoffman's 40-bar dance "Fred Park's Long Drive" online, and
got to wondering about a 32-bar version without the B2 (ocean wave Rory O'More), thus
going from the hey to the partner balance & swing. Surely I've seen and danced
such a sequence, but I cannot recall the title.
https://www.ibiblio.org/contradance/thecallersbox/dance.php?id=5021<http…
I could thus add a "See Also" reference to each card, so I could use whichever
sequence a band can accommodate.
Thanks!
Jerome
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Maia McCormick (she/her)
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6:16 p.m.
New subject: Need Title and Author
Erik,
I wasn't planning to alter your dance, and indeed I was hoping to call it
soon. I just wanted to cross-reference the similar sequence (now identified
as Heart of Glass) but couldn't recall its name. My original note was
likely unclear.
Thanks for sharing your memories of Fred. He was indeed a special person
and I learned new things whenever I was privileged to dance when he was
calling.
Cheers!
Jerome
On Mon, Aug 7, 2023, 1:51 PM Erik Hoffman <erik(a)erikhoffman.com> wrote:
On my dance, *Fred Park’s Long Drive*, it can, of
course, be converted to
a 32 bar dance by eliminating the B2 Rory O’More figure (something I
considered). But I think, with the recent passing of Fred, it would be
appropriate not alter it—at least for the next some period of time.
I seem to recall it was first called at Warren Wilson College. I was
traveling with the String Beings, and Fred appeared there after a long
drive. He liked it.
Fred and I spent a number of nights staying up into the wee hours talking
about dances, teaching, and our lives. I miss him. Besides being a renown
story teller, as a dance caller and teacher, Fred was, among other things,
a choreographer, innovator, musician, historian, mentor, and friend. I miss
him.
~Erik Hoffman
Oakland, CA
*From:* Maia McCormick via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net>
*Sent:* Monday, August 7, 2023 7:48 AM
*To:* Jerome Grisanti <jerome.grisanti(a)gmail.com>
*Cc:* Shared Weight Contra Callers <contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net>
*Subject:* [Callers] Re: Need Title and Author
Off the top of my head, Erik’s “Missing Duck” is similar, though with the
hey and Rory reversed:
https://www.ibiblio.org/contradance/thecallersbox/dance.php?id=2754
On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 10:28 AM Jerome Grisanti via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Hello friends,
I saw Erik Hoffman's 40-bar dance "Fred Park's Long Drive" online, and
got
to wondering about a 32-bar version without the B2 (ocean wave Rory
O'More), thus going from the hey to the partner balance & swing. Surely
I've seen and danced such a sequence, but I cannot recall the title.
https://www.ibiblio.org/contradance/thecallersbox/dance.php?id=5021
I could thus add a "See Also" reference to each card, so I could use
whichever sequence a band can accommodate.
Thanks!
Jerome
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11:54 a.m.
New subject: Need Title and Author
Thanks for the answers so far.
To be clear, I'm looking for the title of this sequence:
Becket
A1: Circle L 3/4, pass thru, neighbor 2 swing
A2: Gents/Larks allemande L 1.5, Partners star promenade 1/2 & butterfly
whirl
B1: Ladies/Robins pass right to start full hey for four
B2: Partner Balance & Swing
--Jerome
Jerome Grisanti
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http://www.jeromegrisanti.com
"Whatever you do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius and power
and magic in it." --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 10:27 AM Jerome Grisanti <jerome.grisanti(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hello friends,
I saw Erik Hoffman's 40-bar dance "Fred Park's Long Drive" online, and
got
to wondering about a 32-bar version without the B2 (ocean wave Rory
O'More), thus going from the hey to the partner balance & swing. Surely
I've seen and danced such a sequence, but I cannot recall the title.
https://www.ibiblio.org/contradance/thecallersbox/dance.php?id=5021
I could thus add a "See Also" reference to each card, so I could use
whichever sequence a band can accommodate.
Thanks!
Jerome
noon
New subject: Need Title and Author
jerome
here it is:
heart of glass by cary ravitz
https://www.ibiblio.org/contradance/thecallersbox/dance.php?id=251
i call it regularly and love it!
blessings
On Aug 7, 2023, at 11:54 AM, Jerome Grisanti via
Contra Callers <contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Thanks for the answers so far.
To be clear, I'm looking for the title of this sequence:
Becket
A1: Circle L 3/4, pass thru, neighbor 2 swing
A2: Gents/Larks allemande L 1.5, Partners star promenade 1/2 & butterfly whirl
B1: Ladies/Robins pass right to start full hey for four
B2: Partner Balance & Swing
--Jerome
Jerome Grisanti
660-528-0858
http://www.jeromegrisanti.com <http://www.jeromegrisanti.com/>
"Whatever you do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius and power and
magic in it." --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 10:27 AM Jerome Grisanti <jerome.grisanti(a)gmail.com
<mailto:jerome.grisanti@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello friends,
I saw Erik Hoffman's 40-bar dance "Fred Park's Long Drive" online, and
got to wondering about a 32-bar version without the B2 (ocean wave Rory O'More), thus
going from the hey to the partner balance & swing. Surely I've seen and danced
such a sequence, but I cannot recall the title.
https://www.ibiblio.org/contradance/thecallersbox/dance.php?id=5021
I could thus add a "See Also" reference to each card, so I could use whichever
sequence a band can accommodate.
Thanks!
Jerome
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14 Aug
14 Aug
5:03 p.m.
New subject: Need Title and Author
This looks like Heart of Glass by Cary Ravitz:
https://www.ibiblio.org/contradance/thecallersbox/dance.php?id=251
Cis
From: Jerome Grisanti via Contra Callers <contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net>
Sent: Monday, August 7, 2023 11:55 AM
To: Shared Weight Contra Callers <contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net>
Subject: [Callers] Re: Need Title and Author
Thanks for the answers so far.
To be clear, I'm looking for the title of this sequence:
Becket
A1: Circle L 3/4, pass thru, neighbor 2 swing
A2: Gents/Larks allemande L 1.5, Partners star promenade 1/2 & butterfly whirl
B1: Ladies/Robins pass right to start full hey for four
B2: Partner Balance & Swing
--Jerome
Jerome Grisanti
660-528-0858
http://www.jeromegrisanti.com
"Whatever you do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius and power and magic
in it." --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 10:27 AM Jerome Grisanti <jerome.grisanti(a)gmail.com
<mailto:jerome.grisanti@gmail.com> > wrote:
Hello friends,
I saw Erik Hoffman's 40-bar dance "Fred Park's Long Drive" online, and
got to wondering about a 32-bar version without the B2 (ocean wave Rory O'More), thus
going from the hey to the partner balance & swing. Surely I've seen and danced
such a sequence, but I cannot recall the title.
https://www.ibiblio.org/contradance/thecallersbox/dance.php?id=5021
I could thus add a "See Also" reference to each card, so I could use whichever
sequence a band can accommodate.
Thanks!
Jerome
8:44 p.m.
New subject: Need Title and Author
Indeed it is. Written by a master choreographer.
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
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This looks like Heart of Glass by Cary Ravitz:
https://www.ibiblio.org/contradance/thecallersbox/dance.php?id=251
Cis
From: Jerome Grisanti via Contra Callers <contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net>
Sent: Monday, August 7, 2023 11:55 AM
To: Shared Weight Contra Callers <contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net>
Subject: [Callers] Re: Need Title and Author
Thanks for the answers so far.
To be clear, I'm looking for the title of this sequence:
Becket
A1: Circle L 3/4, pass thru, neighbor 2 swing
A2: Gents/Larks allemande L 1.5, Partners star promenade 1/2 & butterfly whirl
B1: Ladies/Robins pass right to start full hey for four
B2: Partner Balance & Swing
--Jerome
Jerome Grisanti
660-528-0858
http://www.jeromegrisanti.com
"Whatever you do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius and power and magic
in it." --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 10:27 AM Jerome Grisanti <jerome.grisanti(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hello friends,
I saw Erik Hoffman's 40-bar dance "Fred Park's Long Drive" online, and
got to wondering about a 32-bar version without the B2 (ocean wave Rory O'More), thus
going from the hey to the partner balance & swing. Surely I've seen and danced
such a sequence, but I cannot recall the title.
https://www.ibiblio.org/contradance/thecallersbox/dance.php?id=5021
I could thus add a "See Also" reference to each card, so I could use whichever
sequence a band can accommodate.
Thanks!
Jerome
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20 Aug
20 Aug
5:51 p.m.
Hey JJ,
I called 96 Heartbeats last night to great success at the Palouse Folklore
Society monthly dance in Moscow Idaho! So you can envision it, we had a big
(for us) turnout thanks to the annual pie social extravaganza and the
colleges being back in session, and despite the wildfire smoke. It was the
multigenerational mixed experience crowd we usually get. At least 60 people
filled up the floor at the old one-room schoolhouse where we have our
summer dances.
96 Heartbeats was the first dance after the break, and it was *very* well
received. By then the crowd had thinned down to largely the 20’s and 30’s
crowd who were exuberant and stompy. In B1 I chose to call it as written –
LLFB before chain, and I was glad I did . It created a more extended flowy
section (chain to hey) that mirrored the percussive sequence of balances
fromC2.2 to A2.1. It was nice to have two full B&S to separate those two
vibes without it taking up half the music.
Summing up, it had a satisfying ebb and flow narrative, and made effective
use of the longer form. I was able to drop out fairly quickly. For a change
of pace that’s fun and accessible, it hit the mark, and it got an extra
loud whoop from the crowd at the end. Thanks for sharing it!
-Joseph
PS. FWIW the band played Banish Misfortune – the musical phrasing meshed
with the dance phrasing fine.
On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 1:23 AM JJ <jcgj95(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I wrote an AABBCC dance about a year ago that I
haven't had the chance to
call yet, based on Don Flaherty's Heartbeat Contra. I wrote it because I
wanted a simple 48-bar dance to pull out for a fun change of pace without
too much added difficulty, but all the ones I could find were far more
complex than I wanted (with uncommon/advanced figures that many beginners
may find daunting). Each move of this dance are all figures that I often
have taught in the first half of our regular monthly Contra Dances. I've
been debating in which order to put the Robins Chain/Long Lines, so feel
free to play with it and do what works best. If anyone chooses to call the
dance, please send me feedback!
_________
96 Heartbeats, by JJ Luxe.
Improper
A1: (16) Balance Ring & Petronella Twirl 2x.
A2: (16) Neighbor Balance & Swing.
B1: (8) Long Lines Fwd & Back.
(8) Robins Chain.
B2: (16) Hey for 4 [Robins start Right].
C1: (16) Partner Balance and Swing.
C2: (8) Circle Left ¾.
(8) Balance Ring and Partner California Twirl,
face new neighbors
On Sun, Jul 30, 2023, 23:19 Joseph Erhard-Hudson via Contra Callers <
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Hi there everyone, glad to join the list.
I’m curious about duple minor contra sequences that are written for
3-part AABBCC tunes. Can anyone share or point me to any such dances?
My question is partly inspired by Gene Hubert’s *Fan In The Doorwa*y,
written for three part *slip* jigs. I’m pretty sure I’ve run across
sequences written for AABCC tunes (no repeat on the B). I might even have
spotted some 4–face-4’s written for full 3-part tunes on ibiblio (the
database seems to be down as I write this so I can’t confirm). But so far
I’m coming up empty for AABBCC duple minors.
If you’ve got anything I’d be much obliged.
-Joseph Erhard-Hudson
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21 Aug
7:59 a.m.
Joseph Erhard-Hudson wrote:
Hey JJ,
I called 96 Heartbeats last night to great success at the Palouse Folklore
Society monthly dance in Moscow Idaho!
[clip]
PS. FWIW the band played Banish Misfortune – the musical phrasing meshed
with the dance phrasing fine.
For those, like me, who like to dance it through in your mind, I found this respectable
recording of the tune )to save you the trouble of looking).
https://youtu.be/jU4vSuCenL0
Cheers
Ken Panton
5:34 p.m.
Thanks to JJ and Ken. I plan to add this to my collection. (And love the
music link.)
On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 7:59 AM Ken Panton via Contra Callers <
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Joseph Erhard-Hudson wrote:
Hey JJ,
I called 96 Heartbeats last night to great success at the Palouse
Folklore
Society monthly dance in Moscow Idaho!
[clip]
PS. FWIW the band played Banish Misfortune – the musical phrasing meshed
with the dance phrasing fine.
For those, like me, who like to dance it through in your mind, I found
this respectable recording of the tune )to save you the trouble of looking).
https://youtu.be/jU4vSuCenL0
Cheers
Ken Panton
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