1 Jun
2015
1 Jun
'15
9:30 p.m.
This discussion of ECD just made me realize that the one move that is usually specifically
gender related -- Ladies Chain -- is actually 2nd corners chain. If the idea of first
and second corners is introduced to contra dancers than there would be no problem with
most of the moves: chains, allemandes, heys. It all becomes position oriented.
Bob
1 Jun
1 Jun
9:52 p.m.
New subject: Another approach to Gender Free calling
2nd corner positions or 2nd corner people?
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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 21:30:48 -0400
This discussion of ECD just made me realize that the one move that is usually specifically
gender related -- Ladies Chain -- is actually 2nd corners chain. If the idea of first
and second corners is introduced to contra dancers than there would be no problem with
most of the moves: chains, allemandes, heys. It all becomes position oriented.
Bob
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9:24 a.m.
New subject: Another approach to Gender Free calling
On Mon, Jun 01, 2015, Bob Stein via Callers wrote:
This discussion of ECD just made me realize that the one move that is
usually specifically gender related -- Ladies Chain -- is actually 2nd
corners chain. If the idea of first and second corners is introduced
to contra dancers than there would be no problem with most of the
moves: chains, allemandes, heys. It all becomes position oriented.
Maybe so. But this discussion is making me realize part of the reason I
dislike ECD: this positional notation. It's not that position is
difficult for me in general terms, because that's a lot of MWSD, but
something about the "corners" notation I find difficult (I also have
difficulty with contra corners).
I wonder how many other people have similar difficulty and to what
extent this accounts for the ECD/contra divide.
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9:35 a.m.
New subject: Another approach to Gender Free calling
While I still see the appeal of corners in principle, this is a ton of
explanation for those of us who already are well versed in dance. For the
objections stated, I don't see using corners is feasible replacement terms.
And I don't see restricting dances to ones not requiring role/position
terms as viable outside one night stands.
And with that, I don't think I have more to add that wouldn't be repeating
myself.
Best regards,
Ron
On Jun 2, 2015 9:25 AM, "Aahz Maruch via Callers" <
callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
On Mon, Jun 01, 2015, Bob Stein via Callers wrote:
This discussion of ECD just made me realize that the one move that is
usually specifically gender related -- Ladies Chain -- is actually 2nd
corners chain. If the idea of first and second corners is introduced
to contra dancers than there would be no problem with most of the
moves: chains, allemandes, heys. It all becomes position oriented.
Maybe so. But this discussion is making me realize part of the reason I
dislike ECD: this positional notation. It's not that position is
difficult for me in general terms, because that's a lot of MWSD, but
something about the "corners" notation I find difficult (I also have
difficulty with contra corners).
I wonder how many other people have similar difficulty and to what
extent this accounts for the ECD/contra divide.
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