While I still see the appeal of corners in principle, this is a ton of explanation for those of us who already are well versed in dance. For the objections stated, I don't see using corners is feasible replacement terms. And I don't see restricting dances to ones not requiring role/position terms as viable outside one night stands.

And with that, I don't think I have more to add that wouldn't be repeating myself.

Best regards,
Ron

On Jun 2, 2015 9:25 AM, "Aahz Maruch via Callers" <callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
On Mon, Jun 01, 2015, Bob Stein via Callers wrote:
>
> This discussion of ECD just made me realize that the one move that is
> usually specifically gender related -- Ladies Chain -- is actually 2nd
> corners chain.  If the idea of first and second corners is introduced
> to contra dancers than there would be no problem with most of the
> moves: chains, allemandes, heys.  It all becomes position oriented.

Maybe so.  But this discussion is making me realize part of the reason I
dislike ECD: this positional notation.  It's not that position is
difficult for me in general terms, because that's a lot of MWSD, but
something about the "corners" notation I find difficult (I also have
difficulty with contra corners).

I wonder how many other people have similar difficulty and to what
extent this accounts for the ECD/contra divide.
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