14 Mar
2017
14 Mar
'17
9:49 p.m.
So, this is a cross between Jeff Spero's Kiss the Bride and Rick Mohr's
Rockin' Robin:
Duple Imp.
A1. N DSD (6)
NS (10)
A2. R+L Thru (8) (across)
Gents Alle L 1.5x (8)
B1. P Meltdown Swing (16)*
B2. Circle R 1.25x (10)
Zig R, Zag L (6) (to next Ns)
I was futzing with Kiss the Bride and this came out. I'd like to give
credit if it's been written, or pick a name if not.
In dance,
Ron Blechner
14 Mar
14 Mar
10:59 p.m.
I'm also debating the merits of swapping the A2a with a half hey (GL, PR,
LL, NR)
On Mar 14, 2017 9:49 PM, "Ron Blechner" <contraron(a)gmail.com> wrote:
So, this is a cross between Jeff Spero's Kiss the
Bride and Rick Mohr's
Rockin' Robin:
Duple Imp.
A1. N DSD (6)
NS (10)
A2. R+L Thru (8) (across)
Gents Alle L 1.5x (8)
B1. P Meltdown Swing (16)*
B2. Circle R 1.25x (10)
Zig R, Zag L (6) (to next Ns)
I was futzing with Kiss the Bride and this came out. I'd like to give
credit if it's been written, or pick a name if not.
In dance,
Ron Blechner
11:04 p.m.
Hi Ron:
Two transitions in this dance I find troubling. The R and L through/gents allemande is
awkward for the gents, whose L hand is occupied in the courtesy turn of the R and L
through. This can be avoided by 1/2 hey (GL, PR, LL, NR), gents allemande L 1 1/2 (or
allemande/hey if you prefer that order).
But swing/circle R?
Bob
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Subject: [Callers] Another dance-check zig-zag R dance
So, this is a cross between Jeff Spero's Kiss the Bride and Rick Mohr's
Rockin' Robin:
Duple Imp.
A1. N DSD (6)
NS (10)
A2. R+L Thru (8) (across)
Gents Alle L 1.5x (8)
B1. P Meltdown Swing (16)*
B2. Circle R 1.25x (10)
Zig R, Zag L (6) (to next Ns)
I was futzing with Kiss the Bride and this came out. I'd like to give credit if
it's been written, or pick a name if not.
In dance,
Ron Blechner
11:19 p.m.
I dance the ladies role enough where I feel I can confidently assert that
swing -> circle R is as difficult for gents as swing -> circle L is for
ladies. Either way, one person is unfolding from the swing opposite from
the rotation of the subsequent circle.
The bigger objection to flow is simply that it's a circle right that is
from a standstill, and people don't dance many circle rights. (But we dance
plenty circle lefts from a standstill.) In this case, I'm interested in the
circle R as something to fill a second-half-of-evening slot where I often
have need for dances that are fairly easy but not the same old circle
lefts, swings, stars, chains, and allemandes.
Best,
Ron
On Mar 14, 2017 11:05 PM, "Bob Isaacs via Callers" <
callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Hi Ron:
Two transitions in this dance I find troubling. The R and L through/gents
allemande is awkward for the gents, whose L hand is occupied in the
courtesy turn of the R and L through. This can be avoided by 1/2 hey (GL,
PR, LL, NR), gents allemande L 1 1/2 (or allemande/hey if you prefer that
order).
But swing/circle R?
Bob
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So, this is a cross between Jeff Spero's Kiss the Bride and Rick Mohr's
Rockin' Robin:
Duple Imp.
A1. N DSD (6)
NS (10)
A2. R+L Thru (8) (across)
Gents Alle L 1.5x (8)
B1. P Meltdown Swing (16)*
B2. Circle R 1.25x (10)
Zig R, Zag L (6) (to next Ns)
I was futzing with Kiss the Bride and this came out. I'd like to give
credit if it's been written, or pick a name if not.
In dance,
Ron Blechner
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11:41 p.m.
Ron and All:
I respectfully disagree. As long as we swing in a clockwise direction, the swing/circle R
transition will flow poorly for both roles, and should have no place in any contra dance
-
Bob
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Subject: Re: [Callers] Another dance-check zig-zag R dance
I dance the ladies role enough where I feel I can confidently assert that swing ->
circle R is as difficult for gents as swing -> circle L is for ladies. Either way, one
person is unfolding from the swing opposite from the rotation of the subsequent circle.
The bigger objection to flow is simply that it's a circle right that is from a
standstill, and people don't dance many circle rights. (But we dance plenty circle
lefts from a standstill.) In this case, I'm interested in the circle R as something to
fill a second-half-of-evening slot where I often have need for dances that are fairly easy
but not the same old circle lefts, swings, stars, chains, and allemandes.
Best,
Ron
On Mar 14, 2017 11:05 PM, "Bob Isaacs via Callers"
<callers@lists.sharedweight.net<mailto:callers@lists.sharedweight.net>>
wrote:
Hi Ron:
Two transitions in this dance I find troubling. The R and L through/gents allemande is
awkward for the gents, whose L hand is occupied in the courtesy turn of the R and L
through. This can be avoided by 1/2 hey (GL, PR, LL, NR), gents allemande L 1 1/2 (or
allemande/hey if you prefer that order).
But swing/circle R?
Bob
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Subject: [Callers] Another dance-check zig-zag R dance
So, this is a cross between Jeff Spero's Kiss the Bride and Rick Mohr's
Rockin' Robin:
Duple Imp.
A1. N DSD (6)
NS (10)
A2. R+L Thru (8) (across)
Gents Alle L 1.5x (8)
B1. P Meltdown Swing (16)*
B2. Circle R 1.25x (10)
Zig R, Zag L (6) (to next Ns)
I was futzing with Kiss the Bride and this came out. I'd like to give credit if
it's been written, or pick a name if not.
In dance,
Ron Blechner
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15 Mar
15 Mar
3:09 p.m.
Hi Ron,
Maybe instead of "good flow" you could think about "dancers love it"
and
instead of "bad flow" you could think about "dancers hate it". Of
course
this is a gross false equivalence (dancers love things that aren't flow
too), and it ignores that dancers are all different, but it reminds us that
we're serving the dancers.
In your dance, I'd say the zig left into do si do feels good and you might
even get a comment or two about it, because we don't dance it often. The
right and left thru to gents allemande left is not good flow. Some dancers
will struggle to remember it. A few will mutter to each other. Your friend
who's real with you will tell you, "that was awkward for the gents". Still,
I don't think either of these will provoke a strong reaction, but...
The swing to circle right will really get people talking. You'll see people
try to pull in opposite directions and get jerked around. A few who
wouldn't have said anything about the previous transition will now grumble.
Several experienced dancers will come up to you right after the dance and
tell you how bad it was. But the silent majority will simply be relieved
that it's over with.
BTW, I don't object to circle rights - I think dancers like them just fine
- and I agree with the general goal of breaking up the monotony of swing,
circle left, swing, etc. for variety. But if you call a dance with a bad
flowing circle right, it'll make contra dancers more averse to circle
rights.
Yoyo Zhou
On Mar 14, 2017 8:19 PM, "Ron Blechner via Callers" <
callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
I dance the ladies role enough where I feel I can confidently assert that
swing -> circle R is as difficult for gents as swing -> circle L is for
ladies. Either way, one person is unfolding from the swing opposite from
the rotation of the subsequent circle.
The bigger objection to flow is simply that it's a circle right that is
from a standstill, and people don't dance many circle rights. (But we dance
plenty circle lefts from a standstill.) In this case, I'm interested in the
circle R as something to fill a second-half-of-evening slot where I often
have need for dances that are fairly easy but not the same old circle
lefts, swings, stars, chains, and allemandes.
Best,
Ron
On Mar 14, 2017 11:05 PM, "Bob Isaacs via Callers" <
callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Hi Ron:
Two transitions in this dance I find troubling. The R and L through/gents
allemande is awkward for the gents, whose L hand is occupied in the
courtesy turn of the R and L through. This can be avoided by 1/2 hey (GL,
PR, LL, NR), gents allemande L 1 1/2 (or allemande/hey if you prefer that
order).
But swing/circle R?
Bob
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*To:* callers
*Subject:* [Callers] Another dance-check zig-zag R dance
So, this is a cross between Jeff Spero's Kiss the Bride and Rick Mohr's
Rockin' Robin:
Duple Imp.
A1. N DSD (6)
NS (10)
A2. R+L Thru (8) (across)
Gents Alle L 1.5x (8)
B1. P Meltdown Swing (16)*
B2. Circle R 1.25x (10)
Zig R, Zag L (6) (to next Ns)
I was futzing with Kiss the Bride and this came out. I'd like to give
credit if it's been written, or pick a name if not.
In dance,
Ron Blechner
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