Re: [Callers] Another dance-check zig-zag R dance

Hi Ron, Maybe instead of "good flow" you could think about "dancers love it" and instead of "bad flow" you could think about "dancers hate it". Of course this is a gross false equivalence (dancers love things that aren't flow too), and it ignores that dancers are all different, but it reminds us that we're serving the dancers. In your dance, I'd say the zig left into do si do feels good and you might even get a comment or two about it, because we don't dance it often. The right and left thru to gents allemande left is not good flow. Some dancers will struggle to remember it. A few will mutter to each other. Your friend who's real with you will tell you, "that was awkward for the gents". Still, I don't think either of these will provoke a strong reaction, but... The swing to circle right will really get people talking. You'll see people try to pull in opposite directions and get jerked around. A few who wouldn't have said anything about the previous transition will now grumble. Several experienced dancers will come up to you right after the dance and tell you how bad it was. But the silent majority will simply be relieved that it's over with. BTW, I don't object to circle rights - I think dancers like them just fine - and I agree with the general goal of breaking up the monotony of swing, circle left, swing, etc. for variety. But if you call a dance with a bad flowing circle right, it'll make contra dancers more averse to circle rights. Yoyo Zhou On Mar 14, 2017 8:19 PM, "Ron Blechner via Callers" < callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net&gt; wrote: I dance the ladies role enough where I feel I can confidently assert that swing -> circle R is as difficult for gents as swing -> circle L is for ladies. Either way, one person is unfolding from the swing opposite from the rotation of the subsequent circle. The bigger objection to flow is simply that it's a circle right that is from a standstill, and people don't dance many circle rights. (But we dance plenty circle lefts from a standstill.) In this case, I'm interested in the circle R as something to fill a second-half-of-evening slot where I often have need for dances that are fairly easy but not the same old circle lefts, swings, stars, chains, and allemandes. Best, Ron On Mar 14, 2017 11:05 PM, "Bob Isaacs via Callers" < callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net&gt; wrote: _______________________________________________ Callers mailing list Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net