On Oct 3, 2013, at 8:16 PM, Maia McCormick
<maia.mcc(a)gmail.com> wrote:
 
 This is maybe a silly question, but in an allemande to a star promenade, is
 it assumed that the allemanders will keep their allemande until they've
 brought the promenade-ee across the set?
 
 
  On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 10:58 PM, Eric Black
<eric(a)mirador.com> wrote:
 
 At 12:48 PM -0700 10/3/13, Alan Winston wrote:
 
  Not to hijack this completely, but dancing a
man's role in a
 men-allemande star promenade is also often really unsatisfying. Something
 like 20% of the men I run into line (in the SF Bay Area) just let go of me
 as soon as they've picked up their partner;  70% hold on but stop giving
 weight either immediately or before the promenade part is omplete, and it's
 no more than 10% who give me a satisfying connection all through the
 promenade and a positive push off at the right time.
 
 (And in star promenades with the neighbor lady, I find that about half of
 them step ahead.  Good star promenade, according to me, is like this
 }
 {
 and what happens half the time is more like this
 Z
 
 I find them pretty frustrating to do most of the time, and wonderful when
 they work.)
 
 -- Alan 
 
 
 Two important points I was taught long ago (~1982) by Sandy Bradley:
  - star promenade is an ARC, not "straight across".  The outside person
    MUST walk the outside of a circle, and not just head straight across.
 
  - the outside person needs to match timing and velocity exactly as the
    allemander comes to pick them up.  The image was docking with the Space
    Station.  Don't be early, and don't be late.  Be moving exactly at the
    right speed exactly as the rotating station comes around so you can
    dock.
 
    And then walk in an arc!
 
 I sometimes say that if the outside person starts out early so that the
 allemander is empty-armed, it's like taking a shower with your socks on.
 You might accomplish your goal OK, but it's completely unsatisfying.
 
 -Eric
 
 
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