Applause for this topic and these suggestions. It seems to me that taking care and spending a few extra seconds when replying to messages requires some of the skills that make a good caller: consideration for your audience, attention to detail, careful and deliberate choices. By the same token, an occasional lapse is always forgiven graciously since we all make mistakes.
Bree Kalb
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>From: Chrissy Fowler <ktaadn_me(a)hotmail.com>
>
>Thanks Bill for bringing up this reminder of listserv courtesy!
>
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I made a folder called callers list. I put all my digests in there. I
changed to receiving individual posts. today I got a digest, and two single
posts. All of them went to my main inbox. None of them went into the callers
list list that I created. the Google help info I read told me noghing about
how to ridirect. I'd appreciate help from someone here about directing this
list's mails into the proper place. Thanks!
Keith Tuxhorn, Austin
Thanks, Lisa!!
~ Becky Nankivell
Lisa wrote (in part):
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 21:31:36 -0400
From: Lisa Greenleaf <laleaf(a)verizon.net>
For Neffa medleys and the more popular crowded hall events at the
Festival, I advise callers to avoid any figure that requires all
dancers to be in the center of the line at one time: R and L Through,
Pass the Ocean, Pass through, Star Promenade, Cross Trail Through.
Promenades work because you can instruct dancers to go in tandem.
Whole Heys aren't satisfying in such conditions, either; usually, half
Heys work, but as I found out at Rehoboth, not when there isn't much
side-to-side room. Similarly, Ladies Chain can be painful to watch,
and Mad Robin-type actions can be dangerous.
Figures that do work are Lines Forward and Back (with an appropriate
caveat about backing up too far or too vigorously), Stars, Waves,
Allemandes, Circle Balances and Petronella Twirls (but not California
Twirls), and whole set Circles. It's limiting, but if you have a hot
band, you can have them vary the style of music to add variety.
When it's as crowded as it was in Rehoboth, it's the caller's
responsibility to remind people to stay aware of their minuscule dance
space; several times I urged people to be careful on Balance and
Swing: "There's someone behind you!" and on twirls out of Ladies
Chain. When I had to stop that one dance, I also said, "We're having
an energetic right now without a lot of room. If someone bumps into
you, say, "Careful!" and if you do the bumping say, 'Sorry!' And a
smile is always a great way to deliver the message." Some people need
to have such niceties modeled for them, so why not go ahead and show
them how it can done well.
Lisa Greenleaf
I'm perfectly happy with the current setup. There's not a lot of clutter or
spamming going on. Maybe we're not an attractive demographic for the
s[ammers. :-)
The group has enough members so that there is likely to be someone who can
provide an answer or advice for most topics, but not so many that we'd be
overwhelmed by responses.
John B. Freeman, SFTPOCTJ
Ann Arbor, MI
I'm fairly new to the list and I too, have trouble locating what I'm looking
for in these emails. Not only are the subject lines misleading, but we see
all the headers and footers and other such clutter. Has anyone considered
something like a facebook or google group? It is a much more elegant
approach and will allow sharing of documents, photos, etc.
JoLaine Jones-Pokorney
I get the digest. I have two choices.
1. Reply to the digest mailing. This allows me to clip and reference the
pertinent comments. Doesn't allow me to change the title.
2. Reply to sharedweight.net. I can title, but no letter text goes with me.
I can cut and paste, taking a little extra time.
Moderators, is there a rule I missed? Let me know your preferences. Thanks.
Keith Tuxhorn
Austin
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> 2. Re: Please use appropriate subject heading (Greg McKenzie)
> 3. Re: Compact dances (Lisa Greenleaf)
> 4. Re: Please use appropriate subject heading (Martha Edwards)
> 5. Re: ONS Dance - Accretion Reel (Laur)
> 6. Re: ONS Dance - Accretion Reel (Jack Mitchell)
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> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 10:06:46 +1300
> From: Liz and Bill <staf186(a)ext.canterbury.ac.nz>
> To: Caller's discussion list <callers(a)sharedweight.net>
> Subject: [Callers] Please use appropriate subject heading
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> Hi Folks,
>
> This is a great forum, and I often search over the past posts. We have
> a
> few threads
> going which have subjects unrelated to their content. "Quadrille Formation
> and ONS"
> is about dance space. "Callers Digest ... " is uninformative. Please take
> care
> to change subject when appropriate. Thanks.
>
> Cheers, Bill
>
>
>
>
Thanks Bill for bringing up this reminder of listserv courtesy!
I am a "digest" receiver, and it took me less than 8 seconds to cut and paste the subject line to which I was responding and to delete the content of irrelevant posts from my reply. Small price to pay for an act of consideration to the rest of the list participants (especially given that I'd like to benefit from that same consideration myself - namely irrelevant info deleted (aaah! not again!! not more scrolling down thru all the posts in the entire digest!!!) and a relevant subject line inserted.)
Thanks!
Chrissy Fowler
Belfast ME
> From: Liz and Bill <staf186(a)ext.canterbury.ac.nz>
> Hi Folks,
>
> This is a great forum, and I often search over the past posts. We have a
> few threads
> going which have subjects unrelated to their content. "Quadrille Formation and ONS"
> is about dance space. "Callers Digest ... " is uninformative. Please take care
> to change subject when appropriate. Thanks.
>
> Cheers, Bill
>
Lisa Greenleaf has been a key organizer for the dances at NEFFA, known
for (giant) packed halls. I believe she told me once she has a list of
moves that she recommends callers avoid -- but I don't remember what
they are. Anyone got NEFFA experience?
~ Becky Nankivell
Tucson, AZ and Long Beach, CA
On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 12:06 AM, Paul Wilde <zenyente(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> What I would like is for people to make suggestions of fun, flowing
> dances that are compact, especially in their width. I think having a "list"
> or some other organizing format, of these "compact dances" would greatly
> enhance our toolboxes. What do you think?
>
> Paul
Hi,
I call some ONS dances now and then and like The Carding (from Dudley Laufman's "Sweets of May" book), a quadrille that can accommodate varying numbers of couples which is something I love in any ONS dance. The dancers enjoy it and it's fun to call. But I'm challenged in the beginning to get the dancers in formation (if I or someone isn't on the floor to help). Squares aren't intuitive for many folks. And once in a square they really balk at adding extra couples to the sides, in spite of assurances that it really is OK. Once we're on our way all is fine and everyone is happy. But I'd like to be better at getting the dancers comfortably in a quadrille/square formation when it is new for many. Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Sue Robishaw
Upper Peninsula of Michigan
PS - I'll add my vote for Snowball. The AABB version works for 3, 4 or 5 couples, though I often do top couple to the bottom at the end. I didn't know it had a CC part.
>
>
> Alan said that the 'chase' figure was originally found in Playford?
> s 1701 ed,
> Cheshire Rounds, a longways duple minor formation like contra. It
> then migrated
> across the sea to become incorporated into Appalachian dancing. Ted
> Sanella
> encountered the move in these old-time southern Appalachian square
> dances, and
Was that figure found in an Appalachian or western square? Or both?