Hi all
Just wondering about a transition in Nathaniel Jack's "Walk the Plank."
It looks like a nice bouncy dance with good rebound, but there's a
transition from a petronella twirl into a LH star at the end, and in the
absence of a group of guinea pigs here at the house I thought I'd ask if
anyone's tried this and what they think. Here are the notes:
Walk the Plank Duple Imp.
A1 4,4 Neighbor balance, Al right 3/4
8 Men Al left 1-1/2
A2 16 Partner Bal + Swing, end facing down
B1 8 Down the hall in lines of 4, turn alone
8 Come back up, bend the line to a circle
B2 8 Balance the ring, spin right one place
8 Star left 1ce around.
Is it comfortable to come from that twirl into catching L hands for a star?
Kalia
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> From: Jeff Kaufman <jeff(a)alum.swarthmore.edu>
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> Chris Lahey wrote:
>> I specifically told them that usually I encourage clapping and
>> talked about how nice it felt and actually got most of them to clap
>> for the first petronella and not for the second.
>
> I think presenting yourself as being on the pro-clapping side is
> probably key to why that worked for you. Many callers don't like
> clapping on petronellas and dancers who like the clapping know that
> callers think this. So when a caller says "don't clap", even if it
> really is specific to this particular dance, a lot of people think
> "don't tell me how to dance" and ignore them.
>
> Jeff
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> In my opinion - this is getting too regimented again.
>
> I never tell dancers if they should clap or not.? I have been known to let them know how I feel about it in light hearted way.
>
> Just let them dance and focus on the important stuff
>
> Mac
What always amuses me about the clap is how people clap during the walk through - of course at varying times since there is no musical phrase.
This may have been discussed before, but why does the idea that they
should take hands four seem to come as a complete surprise to at least
half the dancers, every single freakin' time?
It's not hard. You can do it while you're talking. It's a complete and
total no-brainer for contemporary contras. And yet...
Anyone have successful strategies for helping this process along that
doesn't involve specially-trained dogs?
Kalia
Once I was calling at a festival in Denmark. As the dancers were
milling around I announced that the first dance would be a contra.
INSTANTLY contra lines were formed (literally 3 seconds). I asked
them to take hands four and it was done in a maybe 4 seconds. I
thought maybe I was dreaming.
T
These days a Floor Manager (or Venue Manager) might also be responsible
for, or delegate the responsibility for:
- ensuring someone is one the door, greeting and taking money
- making sure first timers know what is going on
- health and safety
- heating, lighting, power, etc.
- organising refreshments
- etc.
That is as well as what Alan mentioned:
- making sure that sets get formed
- making introductions
- ejecting the disorderly
In other words, making sure that the dance is running smoothly, leaving
the caller free to handle the dancing.
My worst experience as a floor manager was handling a fatal heart attack
in the middle of the dance floor!
Happy dancing,
John
John Sweeney, Dancer, England john(a)modernjive.com 01233 625 362
http://www.contrafusion.co.uk for Dancing in Kent
Around hereabouts (Boston), dancers have been observed lining up duple improper. I'd say that is a good bet upwards of 98% of the time. Usually the cross-over makes it halfway down before some cajoling from the downstream dancers gets the cross-over the remaining way. If you train the dancers to take hands four in improper circle as they join the set, then the sets will be comfortably spaced out, as well. Worth trying, I think.
As a dancer or floor manager, I sometimes have done what the Scottish Country Dancers do: An individual from the top couple walks down the set and counts people off. Instead of "1, 2, 3, 4: end of set; 1, 2, 3, 4: end of set; ..." it would simply be 1, 2, 1, 2...
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> This may have been discussed before, but why does the idea that they
> should take hands four seem to come as a complete surprise to at least
> half the dancers, every single freakin' time?
>
> It's not hard. You can do it while you're talking. It's a complete and
> total no-brainer for contemporary contras. And yet...
>
> Anyone have successful strategies for helping this process along that
> doesn't involve specially-trained dogs?
>
> Kalia
>
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> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Andrea Nettleton <twirly-girl(a)bellsouth.net
>> wrote:
>
>> I like to think of it as meaning the dancers are happy, because they are
>> chatting instead of fussing. I say hands four, as you line up, consult the
>> band re tunes, say it again. If they still appear disorganized, I'll pick
>> a random move like N Allemande L , or Cir L all the way. They think I'm
>> teaching the dance, so scramble to get hands four. Then I can say, OK, now
>> that you have hands 4, here's what you really do. Usually they are a
>> little quicker after that. Will they ever just take hands four
>> automatically? I seriously doubt it. Not in this country. The Danes are
>> rumored to line themselves up silently. We are more unruly in general.
>> Best luck
>> Andrea
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>
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>
I also use Andrea's approach if the lines have formed and it's time to get going and the "hands four" request continues to fall on deaf ears - Do-si-do your neighbor is my choice - suddenly there is a great scramble - and she's right, after that people seem to notice hands four more. Martha
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Donna
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Re: "First Turn in May", i called it for a beginner-heavy crowd in
Montague, MA recently (about 10 first-timers and several more inexperienced
dancers out of 50 total). Timing on the allemandes didn't seem to be an
issue. One thing i really liked about that dance was the opportunity to use
it as a teaching tool for allemandes (eg, offering style points followed by
intensive use of allemande, and being able to point out that weight-sharing
makes a big difference in tight timing). Also, thanks to the clear
corner/partner relationships, there seemed to be less confusion about
direction of progression than i've observed in similar
allemande/weave-heavy mixers under similar experience level conditions.
tavi