Hi all
I'll be in Provo from December 8-14th. Is there any dancing in that
neck of the woods? Contra or ECD would be great. I'm taking a class
there and would love to have something to do in the evenings. I'll have
a car so could travel a little ways if needed.
Kalia
ps Hi Frannie! Nice meeting you last night.
On Mon, 5 Nov 2012 10:34:59 -0500, Luke Donforth wrote:
> First Turn in May has 3 allemandes in the A2, with the B1 being a
> balance and swing. North Shore Mixer does something similar, but
> goes to a DSD.
>
> Do you not worry about the timing? I've been at several new dancer
> orientations where the caller stressed the 8 count phrasing as a
> way to keep track and demarcate the moves; I've even used it myself.
That's generally true, but in this case the writer knows that an allemande
doesn't take the full 8 steps so he's able to fit three moves into the
normal time for two. If you did just two allemandes in the 16 beats you'd
find it very slow.
> Is it just not an issue? Do new dancers get through 3 full
> allemandes in 16
It's an issue but it's not a problem! The issue is teaching people to give
weight, and you can encourage them to do this by saying, "If you bend your
elbow and give some weight in the turns, you'll be there right on the beat
for the balance". Of course this presupposes that you're doing some
teaching!
Colin Hume
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Hi callers,
I've been finding circle mixers extremely valuable for dances with newer
dancers. They provide a way both to expose them to many different
experienced dancers as well as to make them comfortable with the idea of
dancing with different people all night. (We've all seen The Couple That
Shows Up And Dances Just With Each Other that doesn't come back because
they don't really meet anyone ...)
I was looking for some alternatives to La Bastringue that I can do early in
the evening, like 2nd or 3rd dance. Other mixers I've seen include doing
things like Do-Si-Do or Allemande one person and coming back to another;
I've found for new dancers that can often be confusing. ("Find another
partner-less person in the middle of the circle" is only amusing so many
times.)
Also, I called this at MIT on Tuesday evening and it worked pretty well
with a high percentage of new dancers.
It's a variation on La Bastringue which I'm tentatively calling "La String
Bean". If you've seen this or something really similar before, let me know
so I can start calling it by its proper name.
A1: Ladies to the center and back (4,4)
Gents to the center, turnaround and back (4,4)
A2: Current P Alle L 1.5x (8)
New P DSD (8, forgiving)
B1: Same New P B+S (4,12)
B2: Promenade the ring CCW, Gents turn in Ladies so all face in (14,2)
Optional: Make the promenade 8 beats and end the B2 with a courtesy turn
once and a little more.
One major point of this dance is to stealthily teach the Courtesy Turn from
the Promenade, something I stole from a new-dancer-lesson from, if I recall
correctly, Peter Stix.
Critique / suggestions welcome. (Thanks to Mr. Bob Isaacs for initial
suggestions earlier this week.)
In dance,
Ron Blechner
contradances.tumblr.com
The Triangle Country Dancers Callers Collective will be sponsoring a
callers' workshop with Carol Ormand, an amazing contra and square dance
caller from Madison, WI. Carol has been calling traditional contra and
square dances since the spring of 1990, and regularly calls at dances,
weekends, and festivals all over the United States (and occasionally
abroad). Since she moved to Madison, WI in 2005, she's also been
playing fiddle for dances.
The workshop will be held near Chapel Hill, NC the weekend of April 12-14.
Carol will call for the 2nd Friday TCD dance in Carrboro (before which,
I hope that many of the workshop participants can gather to have dinner
and an informal conversation with Carol.) Saturday will be an all day
workshop, followed by an evening contra dance, both of which will be
hosted at Stephen Stiebel's house. Finally, on Sunday, we will have a
wrap up and brunch to discuss what we've learned, how the dance went,
and other topics that may come up.
I will have a more complete description when I send out the official
announcement in the next week or so. Right now, I just ask that if
you're interested, you go ahead and get this on your calendar. I hope
to see many of you there!
Jack Mitchell
Since my last mystery dance question got answered in a flash: I've been
going through some old papers and finding all these dances I wrote down at
various contras that don't have titles or authors attached. Any thoughts?
1) (improper: begin in long wavy lines with women facing in)
A1: Rory O'Moore
A2: (balance and?) swing neighbor (in RH)
B1: men by L 1 1/2; partner swing
B2: pass through to an ocean wave and balance (8)
men go on; women allemande L 1/2 (4); new neighbor turn R into long waves
(4)
(was called at the most recent Dawn Dance)
2) (improper)
A1: neighbor balance and swing
A2: ladies chain; pull by partner L to gypsy shadow once
B1: partner balance and swing
B2: circle L 3/4; neighbor allemande R 1 1/2
3) (improper)
A1: neighbor balance and swing
A2: pass the ocean, balance; neighbor alle R 1/2, men alle L 1/2
B1: partner gypsy; partner swing
B2: circle L 3/4; pass through, next neighbor do-si-do
4) (improper)
A1: neighbor box the gnat (no balance), gents pull by L; partner swing
A2: circle left once; partner dosido once
B1: partner box the gnat (no balance), women pull by L; neighbor swing
B2: right and left through; star L
5) (becket)
A1: (slide left to) circle L 3/4; neighbor swing
A2: right and left through; ladies chain
B1: balance ring and spin to swap (2x)
B2: partner balance and swing
Also, does anyone happen go have the dances Baracky Mountain High (author
unknown) or Young Adult Rose (David Kaynor)?
Thank you for your lovely collective wisdom!
Maia
Okay, I need some other perspectives on this. Last year we had a new couple
move to our area, and start attending our local contra dance. They had
danced "somewhere else" for several years, and the gentleman had obviously
been involved in some of the dance organizing duties in their last location
(web site upkeep, etc).
First impressions were positive - he came to the dances for a few months and
offered some worthwhile feedback, while also actually offering to take some
action. He suggested we offer a waltz "lesson" for a few minutes before we
have the first waltz, and he offered to "teach" the waltz, anytime and every
time. So far, we have taken him up on this and it does seem to have
encouraged more people to get up and waltz, which was the point. The
emerging problem (I see..) is that he now wants to insert himself in the
"contra dance lesson" before the dance, which we ask the caller of the
evening to conduct. Several times over the last year, after I have done
"the teach," (where I don't focus on new dancers learning moves, I focus on
making them comfortable and getting them moving to music) Mr. Know It All
has told me that several people "just weren't getting it" and he has offered
to take them into a separate room to give them "more training" so that they
"don't muck it up for everyone else." (Yes, these were his exact words). I
have consistently declined his offers, as tactfully as I could. At our last
dance, though, he had obviously made contact with the caller before hand,
as he was taking the microphone during the teach and offering his "two cents
worth" on contra dance set management, formations, etc. I don't think
anyone died in the train wreck, but I see trouble ahead. (Didn't John
Fogerty sing a song about this.??)
My concern is that we have "given someone an inch, and now he wants to take
a mile." This guy, due to his occupation, is used to coming into an
organization and being the new sheriff in town, and I get the distinct
feeling that he sees our dance group as one that he needs to "shape up." I
am personally quite troubled by what I am seeing, but unsure of the best
course of action. (In my view, he is a "bull in a China Shop" and he has
broken quite a bit of china already...) I have seen other dance communities
where a "dancer" does the beginner teach for every one of the dances, and
when people in the community find that they need to make a change, they
don't feel that they can, politically. (How do you "fire" a volunteer??)
Have any of you had a similar experience? Any suggestions? Thanks!
Martha Wild described "Black Cat Mixer"
A1) Forward and back, repeat
A2) Circle left; Single file back to the right! women TAP the person in
front of them, who turns to face them
B1) Do-si-do the person you are facing; Swing that person
B2) Promenade, form a circle again.
I have this one:
The Yellow Cat Jig (by Jim Gregory)
Circle Mixer
(Start by moving Men one place right so that they get to swing their
partner)
A1: Circle Left; Single File Promenade to the Right - Lady taps man
on the shoulder - he turns around
A2: With this Neighbour: Dosido; Swing - this is your new Partner
B1: Promenade AC around the Circle
Promenade to the middle; Fall Back
B2: Ladies into the Middle (Clap) & Back
Men: Partner Gypsy (Lady stands still)
Happy dancing,
John
John Sweeney, Dancer, England john(a)modernjive.com 01233 625 362
http://www.contrafusion.co.uk for Dancing in Kent
Here in England we have a scatter mixer very much like this that is common at ceilidhs. It's called either Borrowdale Exchange or Dunedin Festival Dance (with different A parts, depending on who you ask).
Circle left. Dosido and swing. Six-person RH star. Pull out and scatter promenade.
I've always come across it as RH star only (by 'which Star first', do you mean your dances have both a RH and LH star?). If the man pulls the lady through, RH probably feels better, as she wouldn't have to cross in front of him once she's through, to get to the right hand side in the couple for the promenade. RH would flow better out of a cross-handed swing. And I'd default to RH in general - even if you do both, it's unusual to begin with LH star or circle right (and I've hardly ever come across a Swat the Flea that wasn't the second half of a figure starting with Box the Gnat).
Edmund Croft,
Cambridge (UK)
Sue Robishaw wrote:
"Melanie's Triplet" and "Star Crazy" (with a note that it's also called "Six Hand Reel") that look to be the same (Circle / Star / Lowest pull out / promenade). And someone gave me yet another name… Also, on the "Lowest Pull Out" dance above, which Star first have you found to work best (Right Hand or Left Hand)?
I do a variation of La Bastrangue that I call Black Cat Mixer, but maybe it should just be La Bastrangue Variation:
A1) Forward and back, repeat
A2) Circle left
Single file back to the right! - at end, women, or #2s (if you haven't got easily established genders, i.e. children, tons of women or men, etc., tell them when they start to choose someone to be #1 and someone to be #2, and then have the #1s on the left and #2s on the right to start) - anyway, women or #2s TAP the person in front of them, who turns to face them
B1) Do-si-do the person you are facing
Swing that person (or 2 hand turn, elbow swing depending on crowd)
B2) Promenade (with the #1s on the inside and the #2s on the outside, that usually aligns them correctly) for 16 counts, swoop the 2s forward to form a circle again.
I find the TAP is very useful in telling people who they are going to dance with. The #2s are always the tappers. In regular La Bastrangue, for newcomers, the swing is way too long since they don't know how to do it, and figuring out who is on your left and turning them under is sometimes confusing (some people have left-right issues, and the turning them under varies from person to person, wrenching arms as no one knows what to expect). This usually works pretty well.
Martha
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> From: Linda Leslie <laleslierjg(a)comcast.net>
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> EZ's Mixer is by Eric Zorn. I believe Eric is still in Chicago, which
> where I first met him about 30 years ago!
> Linda
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> On Oct 25, 2012, at 8:40 PM, Laur wrote:
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>> I have great success with EZ's Mixer. (Thanks Meg Dedolph)
>> I'm sorry I don't have the author.
>>
>> I use it at festivals, with beginners during a dance as instruction,
>> at weddings.
>>
>> Laurie P
>>
>> EZ's Mixer
>>
>> A1
>> P Rt hand turn
>> P Lf hand turn
>>
>> A2
>> P two hand turn
>> P do si do
>>
>> B1
>> P (Bal) Swing (leave out the bal if you think they can't get it or
>> do an elbow swing)
>>
>> B2
>> P Promenade
>> Ladies turn back (or gents move forward)
>>
>> For a non mixer change
>>
>> B1
>> Promenade
>>
>> B2
>> Into the middle and back 2x
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> Hi folks,
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> Snagged the following lovely-looking dance from David Kaynor last week,
> only he couldn't remember the name of it. Anyone know it?
>
> Thanks!
> Maia
>
> ________ by Anne Fallon (triplet, proper)
>
> A1: forward and back; partner do-si-do
>
> A2: 2?s start contracorners
>
> B1: all partners balance and swing
>
> B2: peel the banana (1?s lead down, make arch, become 3?s)
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> The dance is Microchasmic by Ann Fallon.
> Linda
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> On Oct 25, 2012, at 10:43 PM, Maia McCormick wrote:
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>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Snagged the following lovely-looking dance from David Kaynor last
>> week,
>> only he couldn't remember the name of it. Anyone know it?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Maia
>>
>> ________ by Anne Fallon (triplet, proper)
>>
>> A1: forward and back; partner do-si-do
>>
>> A2: 2?s start contracorners
>>
>> B1: all partners balance and swing
>>
>> B2: peel the banana (1?s lead down, make arch, become 3?s)
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> I like the pull out to be from a star R, as the tug then gives you the correct clockwise rotation to swing.
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> On Oct 25, 2012, at 8:57 PM, Sue Robishaw <sue(a)manytracks.com> wrote:
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>> Hi,
>> In trying to organize my dances I have "Melanie's Triplet" and "Star Crazy" (with a note that it's also called "Six Hand Reel") that look to be the same (Circle / Star / Lowest pull out / promenade). And someone gave me yet another name. But in searching online and on this list to see if they indeed are the same, I also found a different "Melanie's Triplet" that is the same as one I have as "Microchasmic" (with Contra Corners).
>> I know dances often have many names and no matter what you call them they're both great dances, but I'd like to get the names right if possible. Any help sorting this out would be appreciated!
>> Also, on the "Lowest Pull Out" dance above, which Star first have you found to work best (Right Hand or Left Hand)?
>> Thanks much,
>> Sue Robishaw, U.P. MI
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