Rich kindly pointed out that I was mistaken about Butter being the one
with the hey leading into the progression. Note to self: never post to
lists before having coffee...
Kalia
Ron Buchanan this one at Contracopia, and it was a lot of fun!
???, by ??? (becket)
A1: pass the ocean and balance
partner R 1/2, gents L 1/2, balance
A2: neighbor R 3/4, new neighbor swing
B1: pass the ocean and balance
neighbor R 1/2, gents L 1/2, balance
B2: partner swing
Oh! I believe that the B2 was a do-si-do and swing, actually (misremembered
it because my partner and I changed it). Which makes the dance as I recall
it:
A1: pass the ocean and balance
partner R 1/2, gents L 1/2, balance
A2: neighbor R 3/4, new neighbor swing
B1: pass the ocean and balance
neighbor R 1/2, gents L 1/2, balance
B2: partner do-si-do
partner swing
And it DOES look similar to Mongatock (Manga Tak?), I agree, but I
definitely recall reforming and balancing waves after both of the
pass-the-ocean/allemande sequences.
On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 9:26 PM, Donna Hunt <dhuntdancer(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> Mongatock* Ron Buchannan Improper
> A1 Balance and Swing Neighbor
>
> A2 Pass to ocean wave, *Balance*, Neighbor R, Gents Left,
> Partner Right Allem ¾
>
> B1 Shadow Allem 1x
> Partner Swing
>
> B2 Pass to ocean wave, *Balance*, Partner R, Gents Left,
> Neighbor Right Allem ¾
>
> I know he called this one, Mongatock, could you have transcribed it
> wrong?
> Donna
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> Ron Buchanan this one at Contracopia, and it was a lot of fun!
>
> ???, by ??? (becket)
> A1: pass the ocean and balance
> partner R 1/2, gents L 1/2, balance
> A2: neighbor R 3/4, new neighbor swing
> B1: pass the ocean and balance
> neighbor R 1/2, gents L 1/2, balance
> B2: partner swing
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It's 5 am, and I find myself awake and writing dances; specifically 4x4s.
Unfortunately, I don't have 8 dancers waiting on my insomnia to test
things, so I figured I'd send them to shared weight...
Possibly this is a choreographic question already answered in square
dancing, but I'm not familiar with the outcome. How well does a four person
do-si-do work? I'm thinking of something along the lines of:
Doubled-si-do
Four Facing Four
A1 -----------
(4) Give and Gents take (up and down)
(12) Neighbor swing
A2 -----------
(8) Women's Chain back to partner (up and down), turn to face in
(8) All four Women Do-si-do 1x
B1 -----------
(8) All four Men Do-si-do 1x
(8) All eight Circle Left 1/2x
B2 -----------
(16) Partner balance and swing
End facing line of direction
In my head, the four person do-si-do is a right hand star sans hands; but
not sure how well it'll fly; especially since the right diagonal women have
less far to turn to face in than the left diagonal women coming out of the
chain.
Thoughts?
Thank you
--
Luke Donforth
Luke.Donforth(a)gmail.com <Luke.Donev(a)gmail.com>
Hey, I'm new here, but what a great idea for a figure, Luke. Am I correct
in assuming that, in addition to being similar to a RH star sans hands,
that the dancers are also facing the same direction throughout the figure,
like you're supposed to do for a regular two-person do-si-do? So the
dancers would be walking forward 4 steps, moving around three other
dancers, and then reversing back to place? I can't see it taking much more
time than a regular RH star. The dancer's adjust, just like they do to any
other figure that takes more or less time than allotted, realistically.
There's also a figure from English country dancing, which is not much like
you're suggesting, but it may provide some inspiration for tweaking this
figure. It's called a Mad Robin and involves 4 people doing a sideways
do-si-do in couples.
What if you had the closer women do a do-si-do followed very quickly by the
next two? And then take the previous suggestion about choreographing a
"soft" figure afterwards, so the one or two beats is not an interruption.
Greg
Hi Luke,
I suspect you will have timing problems in a Double Contra because
of the extra time it takes for the people at the ends of the lines.
I have a couple of dances with a DosiAll and the other challenge is
getting them all to start at the same time. I solve this with a Balance the
Ring first; that launches everyone into the DosiAll at the same time.
My contra with a DosiAll is a standard contra, so it is two couples
- four individuals - all doing a dosido at the same time.
When I teach it I sometimes get the men to dosido and then the
ladies to dosido, then explain that we can't afford all those extra notes,
so they are going to have to do both dosidos at the same time. If they
start moving slightly more to their left than they would normally then that
will help to avoid crashes. The balance before each DosiAll is to ensure
that everyone starts into the movement at the same time. It's really at its
best when all four dancers do the counterclockwise spins that are common in
dosidos.
You can also teach it by getting the four dancers to do a four
person Gypsy; that is the track they follow - now do it as a Dosido.
The dancers all have to be confident and go for it - because you are
following the same track, but with your back to the other people, or
spinning, then you need everyone to keep moving.
I have included below a three couple dance which only has three
people doing the DosiAll at the same time. I sometimes use that to get
people used to the concept.
DosiAll (by John Sweeney)
Contra; Becket
A1: Circle Right Half Way; Balance the Ring
DosiAll
A2: Circle Left Half Way; Balance the Ring
DosiAll
B1: Partner Balance & Swing
B2: On the Left Diagonal: Half Hey - Ladies lead by Right Shoulder
Half Promenade Across and flow into.
Gypsy A Trois (by John Sweeney)
Three Couples in a Circle
A1: Circle Left Four Steps; Balance the Ring
Men DosiAll
A2: Circle Left Four Steps; Balance the Ring
Ladies DosiAll
B1: Partner Allemande Left to
Ladies Right Shoulder Gypsy WHILE Men Single File Promenade CCW outside
the set
B2: Meet your Partner (second time, at home): Partner Allemande Left (about
half) to your Corner
Corner Swing - this is your new Partner
x3 should take you home
Please let me know if your dancers enjoy them.
Happy dancing,
John
John Sweeney, Dancer, England john(a)modernjive.com 01233 625 362
http://www.contrafusion.co.uk for Dancing in Kent
In southern-style square dancing, there are several variations on a figure which is often called “dosido” for two couples, and they are nothing like what Luke is imagining. They go by names like Georgia Rangtang, Georgy-Alabam, Do-si, Dosido and (I think) in MWSD a version of it is called Do Paso. That’s not to say that the figure you are describing isn’t a good one for your dance; it’s just another reason to avoid calling it a dosido.
Richard
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> I've been asked to run a barn dance Saturday Jan 16, 9pm-11pm, but I'm
> busy. The dance will be part of the Western Regional Outdoor Leadership
> Conference:
>
> http://outdoored.stanford.edu/center/wrolc-2016/
>
> If you don't know where Stanford is, you're probably coming from too far
> away to make sense. ;-)
>
> There will be 100+ college students. The theme for this year's
> conference is "diversity", and they would prefer a caller who can fit the
> theme in addition to having experience with one-night-stand environments.
>
> I've offered to be a filter so that they don't need to deal with the
> responses, so please respond privately to me if you're interested and
> available. I've already explained that booking will be somewhat
> difficult both because of the relatively short notice and because it's
> Ralph Page weekend.
>
> I probably will also be sending out an e-mail blast to people I have
> addresses for, apologies if you get this twice. They have already
> contacted other callers so you may actually get three copies...
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> <*> <*> <*>
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> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015, Aahz via Callers wrote:
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>> I've been asked to run a barn dance Saturday Jan 16, 9pm-11pm, but I'm
>> busy. The dance will be part of the Western Regional Outdoor Leadership
>> Conference:
>>
>> http://outdoored.stanford.edu/center/wrolc-2016/
>>
>> If you don't know where Stanford is, you're probably coming from too far
>> away to make sense. ;-)
>
> Someone pointed out that I should at least have mentioned that this is
> California.
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> It's 5 am, and I find myself awake and writing dances; specifically 4x4s.
> Unfortunately, I don't have 8 dancers waiting on my insomnia to test
> things, so I figured I'd send them to shared weight...
>
> Possibly this is a choreographic question already answered in square
> dancing, but I'm not familiar with the outcome. How well does a four person
> do-si-do work? I'm thinking of something along the lines of:
>
> Doubled-si-do
> Four Facing Four
>
> A1 -----------
> (4) Give and Gents take (up and down)
> (12) Neighbor swing
> A2 -----------
> (8) Women's Chain back to partner (up and down), turn to face in
> (8) All four Women Do-si-do 1x
> B1 -----------
> (8) All four Men Do-si-do 1x
> (8) All eight Circle Left 1/2x
> B2 -----------
> (16) Partner balance and swing
> End facing line of direction
>
> In my head, the four person do-si-do is a right hand star sans hands; but
> not sure how well it'll fly; especially since the right diagonal women have
> less far to turn to face in than the left diagonal women coming out of the
> chain.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Thank you
>
> --
> Luke Donforth
> Luke.Donforth(a)gmail.com <Luke.Donev(a)gmail.com>
>
Howdy,
I've been asked to run a barn dance Saturday Jan 16, 9pm-11pm, but I'm
busy. The dance will be part of the Western Regional Outdoor Leadership
Conference:
http://outdoored.stanford.edu/center/wrolc-2016/
If you don't know where Stanford is, you're probably coming from too far
away to make sense. ;-)
There will be 100+ college students. The theme for this year's
conference is "diversity", and they would prefer a caller who can fit the
theme in addition to having experience with one-night-stand environments.
I've offered to be a filter so that they don't need to deal with the
responses, so please respond privately to me if you're interested and
available. I've already explained that booking will be somewhat
difficult both because of the relatively short notice and because it's
Ralph Page weekend.
I probably will also be sending out an e-mail blast to people I have
addresses for, apologies if you get this twice. They have already
contacted other callers so you may actually get three copies...
--
Square/Contra Caller http://caller.aahz.ws/
<*> <*> <*>
"Those who hear not the music think the dancers mad."
absolutely excellent article; thanks Michael. I was, in a past life, a "Woodrow Wilson fellow" at Princeton and never knew this but I surely agree with the articles conclusion (and its relevance to the gypsy discussion)
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