Hi, all--
I don't have the lore or the archives to answer Tom or Michael, but here's
another spur-of-the-moment composition that seems very likely to have been
created earlier and elsewhere. I had just run out of suitable triplets and
I wanted to teach country corners so in desperation I tried this:
Triplet, all proper
A1: #1 couple balance, cross over, go below #2, half-figure eight up
through #2 to end proper between #2 and #3.
A2: #1 turn country corners with the usual suspects.
B1: #1 gypsy and swing, end facing up.
B2: #1 cast around #2 to go down the outside to bottom while #2 and #3 move
up; lines of three go forward and back.
Seemed to work very well for a mixed-age group of beginners (maybe because
the #1s are so much busier than everyone else?)--if it's a known sequence
I'd like to give credit where credit is due. Also interested in any close
resemblances that people like.
Chip Hedler
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> I just wrote a dance and wanted to know if it's unique. I'm pretty
> sure the A1 is borrowed from another dance.
>
>
> D-imp
> A1 Circle left. Mad Robin (face partner and do-si-do neighbor).
>
> A2 Hey, women pass left shoulders
>
> B1 Women pass left shoulders and swing partner
>
> B2 Ladies chain, forward and back.
>
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> Tom
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> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 08:38:39 -0800 (PST)
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> How many dances do people know of that were independently written by
> persons?
> I know of two such pairs.
>
> (1) Jim Kitch and Al Olson independently wrote the following sequence:
> Improper
> A1 Alm left N 1 1/2 and swing a 2nd (new) neighbor
> A2 Alm left a 3rd N once, pass right shoulders with the one you swung, and
> swing your original N
>
> The two dances had the same B1 (I don't remember if it's W alm L 1 1/2 and
> partners swing or Circle Left 3/4 and partners swing).
But the two dances differ only in the B2.
> Al Olson's version is called "The Empty Crack." I do not recall the name
> of Jim's version
>
> (2) Mark Richardson from Bloomington IN and someone (in California I
> think) independently wrote the same dance. I do not recall the name or
> sequence of either.
>
> Michael Fuerst
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Hi Kalia,
I do the hand turns and dosido still in the line of six, so the
dancers are in line for the hey at the end of the dosido. When I
looked for the dance on youtube, I found that the versions I found
all had the hey before the turns, but I call it the way I learned
it. That was in 1981, at a late night dance at the All Folk Around
The Wrekin festival, with music by the Oyster Ceilidh band, and
calling by someone who was wearing a pencil skirt and high spike
heels. (I think that's the only time I've danced to a caller who
couldn't have done the dances they were calling in the outfit they
were wearing.)
It was educational looking at the youtube versions. I found both
one done by a Cornish performing group (they moved out into two
facing lines for the hand turns, and left out the swing entirely),
and one recorded at a ceilidh dance, in which the balances had
morphed into "kick-jumps".
Jacob
At 12:00 PM 2/3/2013, you wrote:
>Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2013 16:52:04 -0800
>From: Kalia Kliban <kalia(a)sbcglobal.net>
>To: Caller's discussion list <callers(a)sharedweight.net>
>Subject: Re: [Callers] Dances for Smaller groups
>
>On 2/2/2013 2:25 PM, Jacob & Nancy Bloom wrote:
> > For 6: Cornish Six Hand Reel, or any triplet that's suitable for your group
> > (See Zesty Contras for the triplets Ted's Triplet #3 and
> > Housewarming.)
> >
> > Cornish Six Hand Reel - 64 bar dance - Starting formation:
> > three couples in a line of six facing down the hall
> > Line of six go down the hall, balance twice 8 bars
> > Turn alone, come up the hall, balance twice 8 bars
> > With partner RH turn, LH turn 8 bars
> > Two hand turn, Dosido 8 bars
> > Hey for six 16 bars
> > Take partner in promenade position, face RH wall,
> > couple at RH end of set leads promenade to LH end of set and
> > makes an arch,
> > other couples come under arch, all swing partner in new
> > position 16 bars
>
>I love this dance, but learned it (and teach it) with the hey
>immediately after the lines of 6 up the hall. At that point they're
>still conveniently in the line for the hey and simply have to face their
>partners. At the end of the hey, just turn your partner enough to end
>with the men facing down the hall and the ladies facing up.
>
>Actually it has just occurred to me to ask, do you do the hand turns and
>the dosido all still in the lines of 6?
Dear Cheryl,
Here are some dances I've found useful for smaller groups of dancers.
Jacob
For 4: Billingsdale Pattern by Chip Hendrickson or O'Donnell Anew by
Tony Saletan
(Both in Zesty Contras)
For 5: General Dummer's Reel
(http://www.library.unh.edu/special/forms/rpdlw/syllabus2006.pdf
page 38)
For 6: Cornish Six Hand Reel, or any triplet that's suitable for your group
(See Zesty Contras for the triplets Ted's Triplet #3 and
Housewarming.)
Cornish Six Hand Reel - 64 bar dance - Starting formation:
three couples in a line of six facing down the hall
Line of six go down the hall, balance twice 8 bars
Turn alone, come up the hall, balance twice 8 bars
With partner RH turn, LH turn 8 bars
Two hand turn, Dosido 8 bars
Hey for six 16 bars
Take partner in promenade position, face RH wall,
couple at RH end of set leads promenade to LH end of set and
makes an arch,
other couples come under arch, all swing partner in new
position 16 bars
(See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKYLDM1w6NE for a
fascinating variant)
For 7: Shira's Seven
Shira's Seven Jacob Bloom
Starting formation: Longways for 3 couples plus extra dancer
at top of set, in Ocean Wave with RH to partner, LH to next
Suggested music: Westfork Gals
All Balance, those who can Allemande R 4 bars
All Balance, those who can Allemande L 4 bars
Balance & swing partner, while extra dancer dances to foot
of set 8 bars
Extra dancer B&S their choice of the dancers in couple #3,
The dancer left out B&S their choice of the dancers in couple #2
The dancer left out B&S their choice of the dancers in
couple #1 8 bars
All three new couples F&B to new extra dancer at top of
set 4 bars
Dosido partner to an ocean wave 4 bars
For 9: Stars In The Triangle
Stars In The Triangle Jacob
Bloom Starting formation: Triangle of threesomes
Middles swing RH person, LH people Star R, return 8 bars
Middles swing LH person, RH people Star R, return 8 bars
Middles Star R, Star L and go on to new threesome 8 bars
Heys for three with new people 8 bars
For 10: Texas Star (it may have been written as a square, but I think
I've called it for five couple sets at least as often as I've called
it for four couple sets)
(http://www.phantomranch.net/folkdanc/dances/texassta.htm)
Also, there are many whole-set-longways dances which work
for sets of four to six couples.
(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/greenery/BarnDances/ToC.html)
At 12:00 PM 2/2/2013, you wrote:
>Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 22:10:37 -0600
>From: Cheryl Joyal <clmjoyal(a)aol.com>
>To: callers(a)sharedweight.net
>Subject: Re: [Callers] Callers Digest, Vol 102, Issue 1 - Dances for
> Smaller groups
>
>THANKS SO MUCH for the spreadsheet - I am a relatively new caller
>and appreciate the resource!
>
>I am also looking for dances for a smaller number of dancers which
>often "shrinks" to only about 6 - 12 people for second half of the
>dance?. Anyone have some easy dances for 4, 5 ,6 people that they like ?
>
>(yes I know I also need to start working on calling squares ! Open
>to some easier ones of those as well, and especially breaks to mix things ups!)
>
>THANKS !
THANKS SO MUCH for the spreadsheet - I am a relatively new caller and appreciate the resource!
I am also looking for dances for a smaller number of dancers which often "shrinks" to only about 6 - 12 people for second half of the dance…. Anyone have some easy dances for 4, 5 ,6 people that they like ?
(yes I know I also need to start working on calling squares ! Open to some easier ones of those as well, and especially breaks to mix things ups!)
THANKS !
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> Thanks for the link to your ONS spreadsheet, JoLaine. That's a nice resource.
>
> I was curious about the title "Coray's Silver Jubilee," since I know
> another dance with the same name, a four-face-four by Carol Ormand.
> See http://carolormand.com/dances.html#corays. Carol's notes give
> 2003 as the year of composition.
>
> Do you have any update on the attribution (date, author) of the
> whole-set longways dance in your spreadsheet? Does it possibly have a
> different title?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
> At 01:21 PM 1/30/2013, you wrote:
>> ........
>>
>> I am the regular caller at a tiny community dance here that will always be
>> a ONS dance every month ;-). I have gathered a good collection of super
>> easy dances. Here is a link to them if you can use any of them, you're
>> welcome to them:
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnrSNRQDems3dEQwNXJ6djRGd21vdE…
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Thanks for the link to your ONS spreadsheet, JoLaine. That's a nice resource.
I was curious about the title "Coray's Silver Jubilee," since I know
another dance with the same name, a four-face-four by Carol Ormand.
See http://carolormand.com/dances.html#corays. Carol's notes give
2003 as the year of composition.
Do you have any update on the attribution (date, author) of the
whole-set longways dance in your spreadsheet? Does it possibly have a
different title?
Thanks,
Mike
At 01:21 PM 1/30/2013, you wrote:
>........
>
>I am the regular caller at a tiny community dance here that will always be
>a ONS dance every month ;-). I have gathered a good collection of super
>easy dances. Here is a link to them if you can use any of them, you're
>welcome to them:
>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnrSNRQDems3dEQwNXJ6djRGd21vdE…
>
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>JoLaine Jones-Pokorney
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Sue,
Good luck with your community dance series. You might enjoy Catch:
Two dancers are chosen to make a two-handed arch. The other dancers
promenade single file around the hall, going under the arch one by
one. When the caller says the word catch, the arch is dropped.
Anyone caught goes to the center and waits. If no one is caught then
the arch goes back up and the dancers start moving again. When two
people are in the center, they pair up and make a second arch.
Basically this continues until all have a partner. The most
frustrating part of this game/dance is when the arches are left down
too long and everyone has to sit in rush hour traffic. Although I
tell them to bring their arches up right away there are always some
who ignore me on this point. Catch leaves the dancers in the perfect
formation to do the Paddy Cake Polka if you want to do another dance
right away.
I think Catch is only fun with a large number of people like 20 or
more. Warn them about eye glasses!!!!!!!
Tom
Hi Sue,
Here's something I might use to start off an event like you described:
Start the music going, take someone by the hand, lead them through
the crowd urging people to join onto the end of the line as it snakes
through the room
Lead the line into a circle, and do a few rounds of a Paul Jones to
get people coupled up (Ladies forward and back, gents forward and
back, ladies in and circle left while gents go to the right around
the outside, ladies turn around and swing someone near your, all promenade)
Have everyone promenade into a Grand March, lead the march up the
center of the hall, stop the music and invite the people who have
come in during the above to find a partner and join in at the bottom
of the longways set which has just been created, before doing a dance
in longways formation.
I've had good experiences doing the above, but here are some things
to consider:
If the group were entirely teenagers then I wouldn't do a snake line,
since that age group tends to turn it into Crack-The-Whip.
If the group had more men than women at the start of the dance, then
I might hesitate to use a Paul Jones to get people into couples,
since the men might be hesitant to dance with each other. It doesn't
matter if the number of gents going forward and back is very
different from the number of ladies going forward and back, as long
as everyone finds someone to swing and promenade with. However, if
there were many more women than men, I might call for the gents going
forward and back first, then the gents circling on the inside while
the ladies go around the outside.
In some groups, people might be more comfortable doing the first
dance with the partner they brought with them. When that's the case,
I might start by asking people to line up in couples for a Grand
March. However, the advantages to getting people moving without
going through the anxiety of choosing a partner, and of getting them
used to changing partners at the beginning of the dance, are obvious.
I hope that's of use to you.
Jacob Bloom
>Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 20:27:05 -0500
>From: Sue Robishaw <sue(a)manytracks.com>
>To: Shared Weight Callers <callers(a)sharedweight.net>
>Subject: [Callers] First Dance - Adult ONS
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>Hi,
> I'm starting a new Community Dance series in our area with no
> recent history of any trad dance. It will likely be nearly all
> beginners and geared toward adults/teens. Thanks to this List I
> have a good collection of ONS dances to choose from, but I'm having
> trouble deciding on the First Dance.
> I'm thinking a non-partner dance that folks can be encouraged
> to join as they arrive (before they sit down) with very little or
> no teaching. I've considered Circles/F&Bs with variety of who goes
> in, probably with claps. Or CL, F&B 2x, CR, start a promenade wave
> at a random spot, people coupling up one after another till all are
> promenading (I'll be on the floor with them). I'm concerned with
> the usual -- looking easy enough, looking interesting, not
> embarrassing, getting them involved before they have a chance to
> think much about it. I have no idea how many dancers I'll have.
> Any suggestions or recommendations would be much appreciated.
> Thanks, Sue
>Sue Robishaw, U.P. of Michigan
I use Glowworm Mixer for the first dance at almost any new ONS event. It
is super easy and people who are hesitant jump right in when they see how
easy it is. One does need a partner, but as it is a mixer, it doesn't
really matter who it is and people don't hesitate to just grab someone and
jump in. It is only a 16 beat dance so you repeat the dance four time for
every one time through the tune. Here it is:
With your partner, promenade CCW in a big circle four steps. Face your
partner and back up four steps. Face the person to the left of your
partner and walk towards that person 4 steps. Allemande L or Right Elbow
Turn with this person once around and end in promenade position face CCW
and the dance begins again from here.
I am the regular caller at a tiny community dance here that will always be
a ONS dance every month ;-). I have gathered a good collection of super
easy dances. Here is a link to them if you can use any of them, you're
welcome to them:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnrSNRQDems3dEQwNXJ6djRGd21vdE…
--
JoLaine Jones-Pokorney
"We are as gods and might as well get good at it!"
- Stewart Brand
Hi,
I'm starting a new Community Dance series in our area with no recent history of any trad dance. It will likely be nearly all beginners and geared toward adults/teens. Thanks to this List I have a good collection of ONS dances to choose from, but I'm having trouble deciding on the First Dance.
I'm thinking a non-partner dance that folks can be encouraged to join as they arrive (before they sit down) with very little or no teaching. I've considered Circles/F&Bs with variety of who goes in, probably with claps. Or CL, F&B 2x, CR, start a promenade wave at a random spot, people coupling up one after another till all are promenading (I'll be on the floor with them). I'm concerned with the usual -- looking easy enough, looking interesting, not embarrassing, getting them involved before they have a chance to think much about it. I have no idea how many dancers I'll have.
Any suggestions or recommendations would be much appreciated.
Thanks, Sue
Sue Robishaw, U.P. of Michigan
Someone mentioned The Spanish Waltz - lovely dance. But I am often
working with groups who can't waltz, so it all breaks down in B2.
So I change the waltz in B2 to:
Take Promenade Hold, Men put Left Shoulders together to make a line of
four: Promenade 1 & 1/2 times forwards in a circle to meet a new couple
I tell them to keep up their waltz steps during the promenade.
Once they get the idea I call "Ooze into a line" - it flows nicely out
of the star.
Happy dancing,
John
John Sweeney, Dancer, England john(a)modernjive.com 01233 625 362
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