Hi Rickey, Just to nitpick: The couple on the caller's left in a becket formation would progress down the hall after a 3/4 circle left. As I imagine your second scenario, I picture everyone holding two hands and facing into the center of the circle (even though their bodies may be slightly twisted and walking to the left). Then you're asking the gent to make a sharp left and pass right shoulders with the next woman in line. There is also the added difficulty in changing people's focus away from the foursome they are working with. One of the reasons that a circle left 3/4, pass thru works is that, even though the timing is tight, everybody can help to make it work. Gents can give their neighbors a guiding hand in the right direction and ladies can spiral their path to cut between the neighbors. I don't know how much you have danced the ladies role, but there are several moves that feel awkward for one gender and great for the other. Do you think anymore about the need to walk backwards during a courtesy turn? A woman finds that very difficult when she tries it the first few times, but then grows accustomed to it. I don't believe that what you experienced is a problem. Just another instance where good dancing makes it great and poor dancing makes it awkward. Chris Rickey wrote: