Babs, A couple of things come to mind when gender swapping: Leaders need to understand that those they twirl appreciate being stopped and pointed in the right direction. This is an additional level of responsibility. In order to do that leaders need to know they will use first their left and then their right hand, changing hands over the lady's head as she twirls, bringing joined hands down to the side to face in correct direction. See you at Moondance! Charley BTW I have some great new dances listed on my website: www.charley.8m.com Sometimes when I am alone I Google myself... ________________________________ From: "callers-request(a)sharedweight.net" <callers-request(a)sharedweight.net> To: callers(a)sharedweight.net Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 12:00:28 PM Subject: Callers Digest, Vol 61, Issue 5 Send Callers mailing list submissions to callers(a)sharedweight.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to callers-request(a)sharedweight.net You can reach the person managing the list at callers-owner(a)sharedweight.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Callers digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: workshop ideas (Laur) 2. Gender Swapping (Jerome Grisanti) 3. Re: Gender Swapping (Mark Galipeau) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 11:45:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Laur <lcpgr(a)yahoo.com> To: Caller's discussion list <callers(a)sharedweight.net> Subject: Re: [Callers] workshop ideas Message-ID: <303719.80870.qm(a)web52901.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Barb, ? It's always fun to watch the gents do that first ladies chain in reverse role. ? I agree with David's comments, that sometimes its just fun to catch them by surprise. ? Ah-ha moments for both genders are how important it is to help your partner, guide them into a move or the next position, or ending in the position that fits the figure. ? Limp noodles are a good point when they reverse. ? Positioning - considerations with height and girth. ? Some of these things are incidental to the gender workshop, but it all counts. ? Laurie Pietravalle MI --- On Tue, 9/8/09, Barbara Groh <barbaragroh(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: From: Barbara Groh <barbaragroh(a)bellsouth.net> Subject: [Callers] workshop ideas To: callers(a)sharedweight.net Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 8:59 PM Hey, y'all, I'm going to be facilitating a "gender-swap" w.s. at Moondance in a few days.? I've never been to a workshop on this topic, and I thought I would solicit ideas from the group.???Has anybody been to (or perhaps led) a gender-swap session????Any gems you can share with me on what worked well or what didn't? Thanks!! Barbara _______________________________________________ Callers mailing list Callers(a)sharedweight.net http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 16:27:23 -0500 From: Jerome Grisanti <jerome.grisanti(a)gmail.com> To: callers(a)sharedweight.net Subject: [Callers] Gender Swapping Message-ID: <78dbc7c60909091427m3091a4fds324dcdb3f51c84a4(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Barbara, The two things that are most confusing when changing genders are the chain and the swing. For the chain, you might review courtesy turn and also the twirl. Make sure twirlers know their hand should be directly over the head of the twirlee, and their hand should remain open (not gripping). When I mentioned to one group that the twirler's hand should remain open, a roar of women's voices said "Yes!" and I just added, "gentlemen, the twirlees have spoken..." --Jerome ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 15:27:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Galipeau <red72impala(a)yahoo.com> To: Caller's discussion list <callers(a)sharedweight.net> Subject: Re: [Callers] Gender Swapping Message-ID: <964380.63567.qm(a)web83604.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 If the group is alert, what my dance partners and I occasionally enjoy, is memorizing both roles in the dance, then each iteration when there is a swing your partner, we swap gender roles. ie: first swing I lead, then the next time we come back to swing my partner immediately takes the lead role and swings me.? Some dances are challenging and if the grey matter is slow, or it is late in the evening this can really snafu the line. ? Chris Ricciotti has a great web resouce on Gender Free Contra on this web site. http://www.lcfd.org/Articles/GFManual/index.html ? Mark Galipeau Queer Contra Dancer We swing both ways, and then some. --- On Wed, 9/9/09, Jerome Grisanti <jerome.grisanti(a)gmail.com> wrote: From: Jerome Grisanti <jerome.grisanti(a)gmail.com> Subject: [Callers] Gender Swapping To: callers(a)sharedweight.net Date: Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 2:27 PM Barbara, The two things that are most confusing when changing genders are the chain and the swing. For the chain, you might review courtesy turn and also the twirl. Make sure twirlers know their hand should be directly over the head of the twirlee, and their hand should remain open (not gripping). When I mentioned to one group that the twirler's hand should remain open, a roar of women's voices said "Yes!" and I just added, "gentlemen, the twirlees have spoken..." --Jerome _______________________________________________ Callers mailing list Callers(a)sharedweight.net http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Callers mailing list Callers(a)sharedweight.net http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers End of Callers Digest, Vol 61, Issue 5 **************************************