On Feb 5, 2025, at 12:00 AM, contracallers-request(a)lists.sharedweight.net wrote: Send Contra Callers mailing list submissions to contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to contracallers-request(a)lists.sharedweight.net You can reach the person managing the list at contracallers-owner(a)lists.sharedweight.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Contra Callers digest..." Today's Topics: 1. waltz circle mixer with trios (d_kreiss-tomkins(a)riseup.net) 2. Re: waltz circle mixer with trios (Mo Waddington) 3. Re: waltz circle mixer with trios (Michael Dyck) 4. Re: waltz circle mixer with trios (Colin Hume) 5. Re: waltz circle mixer with trios (Gregory) 6. Re: waltz circle mixer with trios (Allison and Hunt Smith) 7. Fwd: Research Study on Gender-Free Contra Dance Callers (Seth Seeger) 8. Re: waltz circle mixer with trios (Michael Dyck) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2025 08:35:33 +0000 From: d_kreiss-tomkins(a)riseup.net Subject: [Callers] waltz circle mixer with trios To: Shared Weight Contra Callers &lt;contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net&gt; Message-ID: &lt;f354c16591c5922eb04d2f37bdcf2c88(a)riseup.net&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Hello callers, Apologies for the non-contra question: I'm looking for a dance that a musician remembers and would like called. He pictures trios facing around a circle like spokes, waltzing somehow and the middle dancer progressing to the next trio. Please let me know if you have a dance that matches this description! David Kreiss-Tomkins ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2025 12:42:05 +0000 From: Mo Waddington &lt;mjw(a)mowaddington.plus.com&gt; Subject: [Callers] Re: waltz circle mixer with trios To: contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net Message-ID: &lt;bca8067a-2668-4813-a965-9fcf2c4c2c92(a)mowaddington.plus.com&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed I can think of 2 dances in that formation that aren't waltzes and thumbing through CDM (Tony Parkes 1967 ed) finds more: Silly threesome ( Community Dance Manual book5.16) Rebecca's Roundabout (John Chapman) Kielder Schottische (CDM book 3.4) Russian Ballet (CDM bk 3.5) Texas Rpogressive Threesome (CDM 5.17) Nope, can't find one with waltzing On 04/02/2025 08:35, None via Contra Callers wrote: ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2025 09:19:43 -0500 From: Michael Dyck &lt;jmdyck(a)ibiblio.org&gt; Subject: [Callers] Re: waltz circle mixer with trios To: contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net Message-ID: &lt;91ec91a6-0bca-4e2d-a849-f4aee862e60a(a)ibiblio.org&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed On 2025-02-04 3:35 a.m., Mo via Contra Callers wrote: At the Caller's Box, this is "Circle of Threesomes" formation, with single progression: https://www.ibiblio.org/contradance/thecallersbox/?formation=Circle+of+Thre… Currently, there are 20 such, but none of them involves waltzing, or is paired with waltz-time music. I don't think waltzing would fit very well in that formation. If two in each threesome are waltzing, that leaves out the third. You could have (e.g.) the center person waltz with each other person in turn, but that would take up a lot of time. (Say, 8 bars each, 16 bars total of waltzing?) More significantly, waltzing is asymmetric, so if the dance doesn't want awkward pairings, it would have to dictate (e.g.) that each trio consists of one 'lead' between two 'follows', with no rearrangement after the progression. Which is not unheard of, but the examples are fairly old, and might not go over that well these days (depending on the context). -Michael ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2025 18:14:22 GMT From: Colin Hume &lt;colin(a)colinhume.com&gt; Subject: [Callers] Re: waltz circle mixer with trios To: &lt;contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net&gt; Message-ID: <202524181422.966990@Owner-PC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 09:19:43 -0500, Michael Dyck via Contra Callers wrote: You're assuming that a dance in waltz time involves rotating with a ballroom hold - that's not true. There are certainly old dances such as "Duke of Kent's Waltz" and "The Bath Waltz" which don't, and there's no reason why there couldn't be modern ones too. Colin Hume Email colin(a)colinhume.com Web site http://colinhume.com ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2025 18:27:19 +0000 From: Gregory &lt;glibguide(a)protonmail.com&gt; Subject: [Callers] Re: waltz circle mixer with trios To: Shared Weight Contra Callers &lt;contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net&gt; Message-ID: <fRtJUdBNt7AFWee3abIGG3kyz1wRIc0Kv6HVXnYGiHUj5pKFUFaj-943- L9OzMDUxRtFiKmUgHxXi_hE3Z8cb0JZsiemY0aRXlnqlrHTsQc=(a)protonmail.com&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I have a funny feeling I have danced this dance before, but so vague is my memory there's no way to be sure. I recall that there is indeed a portion of the dance where the middle person dances an individual waltz with the person on the right, then with the person on the left, and there may have been something like a hey for 3 (with hands) and some promenading. Hopefully that helps jog the memory. 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Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum. Sent with Proton Mail secure email. On Tuesday, February 4th, 2025 at 12:35 AM, None via Contra Callers &lt;contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net&gt; wrote: ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2025 14:10:43 -0500 From: Allison and Hunt Smith &lt;huntandallison(a)gmail.com&gt; Subject: [Callers] Re: waltz circle mixer with trios To: Mo Waddington &lt;mjw(a)mowaddington.plus.com&gt; Cc: contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net Message-ID: &lt;CAHeZ3+ihLnoHxC51HC23tCFqBm1WT0zZftpv+CMr8uYt3nGB+Q(a)mail.gmail.com&gt; Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000a70cb8062d55c46f" This certainly sounds as though it might be an English Country Dance. Leah's Waltz by Fried Herman comes to mind https://youtu.be/Zp_5pf3Xr6M?si=z-hMahQjyZmFDqtE On Tue, Feb 4, 2025 at 7:47 AM Mo Waddington via Contra Callers < contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net&gt; wrote: -- www.huntandallison.net http://thsmaritime.com/ www.centralhallcommons.org