30 Jun
2023
30 Jun
'23
2:07 a.m.
Hi folks :)
As a dancer, I remember loving the feel of waves lines that balance forward
and back. However, I don't have any dances that specifically call for
that.
Might you have suggestions of dances that specifically call for Bal F&B or
which often get modified for that feel of a balance?
Thank you!
:) Emily in Ottawa
30 Jun
30 Jun
2:36 a.m.
Hi Emily,
Here’s one…
Wave Riders - Ric Goldman (2009-01-03), Imp (jigs)
Note: start with wave of 4, Ravens/L in center, Ns/R
A1 1-4 Balance wave R&L; slide R (Larks now in center)
5-8 Balance wave Fwd & Back; Drop hands, walk fwd to new Ns
(progression)
A2 1-4 Balance new wave R&L ; Larks alle R 3/4 in center to go to …
5-8 N sw (on Larks original side)
B1 1-4 Long lines fwd, Larks bring P back to their side
5-8 P sw
B2 1-4 Circle L ¾
5-8 N DSD 1-1/4 into wave (with these same 4)
Thanx, Ric Goldman
letsdance(a)rgoldman.org <mailto:letsdance@rgoldman.org>
971-206-1956
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Subject: [Callers] Dances with balancing waves forward and backward?
Hi folks :)
As a dancer, I remember loving the feel of waves lines that balance forward and back.
However, I don't have any dances that specifically call for that.
Might you have suggestions of dances that specifically call for Bal F&B or which often
get modified for that feel of a balance?
Thank you!
:) Emily in Ottawa
5:47 a.m.
Not specific dances, but with waves you generally balance in the direction
you're going to move and then the opposite direction. So any dance that has
a balance followed by everyone walking forward should be a forward and back
wave balance.
Jeff
On Thu, Jun 29, 2023, 10:37 PM Ric Goldman - letsdance via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Hi Emily,
Here’s one…
*Wave Riders* - Ric Goldman (2009-01-03), Imp (jigs)
Note: start with wave of 4, Ravens/L in center, Ns/R
A1 1-4 Balance wave R&L; slide R (Larks now in center)
5-8 Balance wave Fwd & Back; Drop hands, walk fwd to new
Ns *(progression)*
A2 1-4 Balance *new *wave R&L ; Larks alle R 3/4 in center
to go to …
5-8 N sw *(on Larks original side)*
B1 1-4 Long lines fwd, Larks bring P back to their side
5-8 P sw
B2 1-4 Circle L ¾
5-8 N DSD 1-1/4 into wave *(with these same 4)*
Thanx, Ric Goldman
letsdance(a)rgoldman.org
971-206-1956
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Hi folks :)
As a dancer, I remember loving the feel of waves lines that balance
forward and back. However, I don't have any dances that specifically call
for that.
Might you have suggestions of dances that specifically call for Bal F&B or
which often get modified for that feel of a balance?
Thank you!
:) Emily in Ottawa
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8:51 a.m.
Hi Emily,
As Jeff says, it depends on the next move.
If you Balance Right & Left then you are too close to do a good
Allemande Left. So for the men in a Tidal Wave in a dance like Trip to Lambertville who
have to balance then Allemande Left, it is much better to Balance Left & Right.
On the other hand, Balance Forward & Back always makes the next move
satisfying. Though perhaps you then lose a bit of the acknowledgement of the people to
whom you balance.
Balance Forward & Back is always best if the next move is Extend, i.e.
walk forwards (often to the next Ocean Wave), especially if you want to put a spin into
the Extend. It gets your momentum going in the correct direction.
If you search the Caller’s Box for “Walk Forward” you will find 712 dances
that may meet your requirement!
It may be worth reminding the dancers that when the wave is going to balance
forward and back, then you don’t want to be in a straight line with the other dancers, you
want to be back away from the line of the wave, so that when you balance forwards you
don’t damage your shoulders.
Happy dancing,
John
John Sweeney, Dancer, England john(a)modernjive.com 01233 625 362 & 07802 940 574
http://www.contrafusion.co.uk for Dancing in Kent
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Subject: [Callers] Dances with balancing waves forward and backward?
Hi folks :)
As a dancer, I remember loving the feel of waves lines that balance forward and back.
However, I don't have any dances that specifically call for that.
Might you have suggestions of dances that specifically call for Bal F&B or which often
get modified for that feel of a balance?
Thank you!
:) Emily in Ottawa
12:31 p.m.
On 2023-06-29 10:07 p.m., Emily Addison via Contra Callers wrote:
Hi folks :)
As a dancer, I remember loving the feel of waves lines that balance forward
and back. However, I don't have any dances that specifically call for that.
Might you have suggestions of dances that specifically call for Bal F&B or
which often get modified for that feel of a balance?
In the Caller's Box, the thing to search for is "(F;B)":
https://www.ibiblio.org/contradance/thecallersbox/?pos_lines=(F%3BB)&po…
I'm somewhat surprised to find that it returns only 3 dances:
"Balancing Act" & "Rolling Waves" by John Sweeney,
and "Remembering Louie" by Steve Zakon-Anderson.
(Of course, there are probably lots of dances in the db where forward+back
would work well, we just haven't noted it.)
-Michael
2:03 p.m.
When I wrote Shadrack’s Delight 51 years ago (one of the first all-moving contras to gain
wide acceptance among trad callers), I envisioned the wave balances as forward and back.
Both of the balances are followed by hand turns halfway around, and I dislike the feel of
a hand turn following a sideways balance (starting in either direction relative to the
following turn). In my experience, most dancers do sideways balances in Shadrack, perhaps
because they’re used to balancing sideways in dozens of other dances. I find that even
when I specify a forward and back balance, many dancers don’t try it.
Tony Parkes
Billerica, Mass.
www.hands4.com<http://www.hands4.com/>
New book! Square Dance Calling: An Old Art for a New Century
(available now)
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Subject: [Callers] Dances with balancing waves forward and backward?
Hi folks :)
As a dancer, I remember loving the feel of waves lines that balance forward and back.
However, I don't have any dances that specifically call for that.
Might you have suggestions of dances that specifically call for Bal F&B or which often
get modified for that feel of a balance?
Thank you!
:) Emily in Ottawa
4:16 p.m.
Ah Shadracks! Thanks for that one Tony!
Anyway, I agree with Tony and I myself find balancing "sideways" (not really
sideways, more on right diagonal then left diagonal) more natural than forward and back.
Maybe this is just because of the way one's arms are pointing when in the wave. When I
wrote Eleanor's Reel a measly 20 years ago (hah hah), I used that to an advantage as
the progressions between waves were on the right and left diagonal.
Dance and notes here: Eleanor's Reel
(billolsondance.com)<https://www.billolsondance.com/eleanorsreel.html>
bill
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Subject: [Callers] Re: Dances with balancing waves forward and backward?
When I wrote Shadrack’s Delight 51 years ago (one of the first all-moving contras to gain
wide acceptance among trad callers), I envisioned the wave balances as forward and back.
Both of the balances are followed by hand turns halfway around, and I dislike the feel of
a hand turn following a sideways balance (starting in either direction relative to the
following turn). In my experience, most dancers do sideways balances in Shadrack, perhaps
because they’re used to balancing sideways in dozens of other dances. I find that even
when I specify a forward and back balance, many dancers don’t try it.
Tony Parkes
Billerica, Mass.
www.hands4.com<http://www.hands4.com/>
New book! Square Dance Calling: An Old Art for a New Century
(available now)
From: Emily Addison via Contra Callers <contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2023 10:07 PM
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Subject: [Callers] Dances with balancing waves forward and backward?
Hi folks :)
As a dancer, I remember loving the feel of waves lines that balance forward and back.
However, I don't have any dances that specifically call for that.
Might you have suggestions of dances that specifically call for Bal F&B or which often
get modified for that feel of a balance?
Thank you!
:) Emily in Ottawa
1 Jul
1 Jul
5:52 p.m.
Big fan of box circulates, which imo are best served by balancing right+fwd
and left+back, so you have momentum for the next move whether you're
traveling forward or to the right. I don't know if this is exactly what
you're looking for, but if so and you want my fave box circulate dances, I
have lots 😅 and am happy to share.
As far as balance-and-walk-forward, I just went through my whole dang
collection and pulled these; turns out a lot of dances I really like have
this transition :D
- Some easy/classic ones are You Can Get There From Here (Linda Leslie)
and 20 Below (Bill Olson)
- A Gift to the Grange (Steve Zakon-Anderson), Robins on a Wire (Will
Mentor), Ellie's Pumpkin Show (Bill Olson) all have neat "wavy line of
<role> balance and walk forward, partner follow to cross and swing"
- Winter in Summerland (James Hutson & Jeff Spero) - waves balance and
walk fwd to hey. One of my all time fave dances!
- Serendipity (Chris Page) - box circulate with an extra turn; includes
walking forward from short waves. Also one of my fave dances.
- Eleanor's Reel (Bill Olson; see also, Eleanor's Twisted Reel, the Luke
Donforth var.) has MULTIPLE "walk forward to next wave" transitions, great
for visiting lots of people in a crowded hall
- In Cahoots (Rick Mohr) is this with shadows
- The Black Lake Inlet of Dr. Joe Rush (Seth Tepfer) - main hook of this
dance is a "right-left by" which is fun, but it also has balance fwd/walk
fwd to new waves
- Solstice '17 (Donna Hunt)
--
Maia McCormick (she/her)
917.279.8194
On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 12:16 PM Bill Olson via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Ah Shadracks! Thanks for that one Tony!
Anyway, I agree with Tony and I myself find balancing "sideways" (not
really sideways, more on right diagonal then left diagonal) more natural
than forward and back. Maybe this is just because of the way one's arms are
pointing when in the wave. When I wrote Eleanor's Reel a measly 20 years
ago (hah hah), I used that to an advantage as the progressions between
waves were on the right and left diagonal.
Dance and notes here: Eleanor's Reel (billolsondance.com)
<https://www.billolsondance.com/eleanorsreel.html>
bill
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*Subject:* [Callers] Re: Dances with
balancing waves forward and backward?
When I wrote Shadrack’s Delight 51 years ago (one of the first all-moving
contras to gain wide acceptance among trad callers), I envisioned the wave
balances as forward and back. Both of the balances are followed by hand
turns halfway around, and I dislike the feel of a hand turn following a
sideways balance (starting in either direction relative to the following
turn). In my experience, most dancers do sideways balances in Shadrack,
perhaps because they’re used to balancing sideways in dozens of other
dances. I find that even when I specify a forward and back balance, many
dancers don’t try it.
Tony Parkes
Billerica, Mass.
www.hands4.com
New book! Square Dance Calling: An Old Art for a New Century
(available now)
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*Subject:* [Callers] Dances with balancing waves forward and backward?
Hi folks :)
As a dancer, I remember loving the feel of waves lines that balance
forward and back. However, I don't have any dances that specifically call
for that.
Might you have suggestions of dances that specifically call for Bal F&B or
which often get modified for that feel of a balance?
Thank you!
:) Emily in Ottawa
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7:44 p.m.
FWIW, here's a dance from 2002 with a different take, I guess. Reports were that after
the dance the women's/robin's arms were very tired. As it says in the notes, the
dance DID work and satisfied the original objective (and sort of forced the balances to be
forward and back). As I remember it was pretty cool hearing the three balances all in
succession. Do Make Waves
(billolsondance.com)<https://www.billolsondance.com/domakewaves.html>
bill
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Subject: Re: [Callers] Re: Dances with balancing waves forward and backward?
Big fan of box circulates, which imo are best served by balancing right+fwd and left+back,
so you have momentum for the next move whether you're traveling forward or to the
right. I don't know if this is exactly what you're looking for, but if so and you
want my fave box circulate dances, I have lots 😅 and am happy to share.
As far as balance-and-walk-forward, I just went through my whole dang collection and
pulled these; turns out a lot of dances I really like have this transition :D
* Some easy/classic ones are You Can Get There From Here (Linda Leslie) and 20 Below
(Bill Olson)
* A Gift to the Grange (Steve Zakon-Anderson), Robins on a Wire (Will Mentor),
Ellie's Pumpkin Show (Bill Olson) all have neat "wavy line of <role>
balance and walk forward, partner follow to cross and swing"
* Winter in Summerland (James Hutson & Jeff Spero) - waves balance and walk fwd to
hey. One of my all time fave dances!
* Serendipity (Chris Page) - box circulate with an extra turn; includes walking
forward from short waves. Also one of my fave dances.
* Eleanor's Reel (Bill Olson; see also, Eleanor's Twisted Reel, the Luke
Donforth var.) has MULTIPLE "walk forward to next wave" transitions, great for
visiting lots of people in a crowded hall
* In Cahoots (Rick Mohr) is this with shadows
* The Black Lake Inlet of Dr. Joe Rush (Seth Tepfer) - main hook of this dance is a
"right-left by" which is fun, but it also has balance fwd/walk fwd to new
waves
* Solstice '17 (Donna Hunt)
--
Maia McCormick (she/her)
917.279.8194
On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 12:16 PM Bill Olson via Contra Callers
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wrote:
Ah Shadracks! Thanks for that one Tony!
Anyway, I agree with Tony and I myself find balancing "sideways" (not really
sideways, more on right diagonal then left diagonal) more natural than forward and back.
Maybe this is just because of the way one's arms are pointing when in the wave. When I
wrote Eleanor's Reel a measly 20 years ago (hah hah), I used that to an advantage as
the progressions between waves were on the right and left diagonal.
Dance and notes here: Eleanor's Reel
(billolsondance.com)<https://www.billolsondance.com/eleanorsreel.html>
bill
________________________________
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Subject: [Callers] Re: Dances with balancing waves forward and backward?
When I wrote Shadrack’s Delight 51 years ago (one of the first all-moving contras to gain
wide acceptance among trad callers), I envisioned the wave balances as forward and back.
Both of the balances are followed by hand turns halfway around, and I dislike the feel of
a hand turn following a sideways balance (starting in either direction relative to the
following turn). In my experience, most dancers do sideways balances in Shadrack, perhaps
because they’re used to balancing sideways in dozens of other dances. I find that even
when I specify a forward and back balance, many dancers don’t try it.
Tony Parkes
Billerica, Mass.
www.hands4.com<http://www.hands4.com/>
New book! Square Dance Calling: An Old Art for a New Century
(available now)
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Subject: [Callers] Dances with balancing waves forward and backward?
Hi folks :)
As a dancer, I remember loving the feel of waves lines that balance forward and back.
However, I don't have any dances that specifically call for that.
Might you have suggestions of dances that specifically call for Bal F&B or which often
get modified for that feel of a balance?
Thank you!
:) Emily in Ottawa
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3 Jul
9:46 a.m.
Thanks so so much for all the really interesting and helpful responses!
This conversation has been great!!!
(Apologies for my slow response. Last week of school for our kiddo and
then right into Canada Day long weekend meant that I haven't been on the
computer as much as I sometimes might be.)
Thank you :) :) :)
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On Sat, Jul 1, 2023 at 3:45 PM Bill Olson via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
FWIW, here's a dance from 2002 with a different
take, I guess. Reports
were that after the dance the women's/robin's arms were very tired. As it
says in the notes, the dance DID work and satisfied the original objective
(and sort of forced the balances to be forward and back). As I remember it
was pretty cool hearing the three balances all in succession. Do Make
Waves (billolsondance.com)
<https://www.billolsondance.com/domakewaves.html>
bill
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Tony Parkes <tony(a)hands4.com>
*Subject:* Re: [Callers] Re: Dances with balancing waves forward and
backward?
Big fan of box circulates, which imo are best served by
balancing right+fwd and left+back, so you have momentum for the next move
whether you're traveling forward or to the right. I don't know if this is
exactly what you're looking for, but if so and you want my fave box
circulate dances, I have lots 😅 and am happy to share.
As far as balance-and-walk-forward, I just went through my whole dang
collection and pulled these; turns out a lot of dances I really like have
this transition :D
- Some easy/classic ones are You Can Get There From Here (Linda
Leslie) and 20 Below (Bill Olson)
- A Gift to the Grange (Steve Zakon-Anderson), Robins on a Wire (Will
Mentor), Ellie's Pumpkin Show (Bill Olson) all have neat "wavy line of
<role> balance and walk forward, partner follow to cross and swing"
- Winter in Summerland (James Hutson & Jeff Spero) - waves balance and
walk fwd to hey. One of my all time fave dances!
- Serendipity (Chris Page) - box circulate with an extra turn;
includes walking forward from short waves. Also one of my fave dances.
- Eleanor's Reel (Bill Olson; see also, Eleanor's Twisted Reel, the
Luke Donforth var.) has MULTIPLE "walk forward to next wave" transitions,
great for visiting lots of people in a crowded hall
- In Cahoots (Rick Mohr) is this with shadows
- The Black Lake Inlet of Dr. Joe Rush (Seth Tepfer) - main hook of
this dance is a "right-left by" which is fun, but it also has balance
fwd/walk fwd to new waves
- Solstice '17 (Donna Hunt)
--
Maia McCormick (she/her)
917.279.8194
On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 12:16 PM Bill Olson via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Ah Shadracks! Thanks for that one Tony!
Anyway, I agree with Tony and I myself find balancing "sideways" (not
really sideways, more on right diagonal then left diagonal) more natural
than forward and back. Maybe this is just because of the way one's arms are
pointing when in the wave. When I wrote Eleanor's Reel a measly 20 years
ago (hah hah), I used that to an advantage as the progressions between
waves were on the right and left diagonal.
Dance and notes here: Eleanor's Reel (billolsondance.com)
<https://www.billolsondance.com/eleanorsreel.html>
bill
------------------------------
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*Subject:* [Callers] Re: Dances with
balancing waves forward and backward?
When I wrote Shadrack’s Delight 51 years ago (one of the first all-moving
contras to gain wide acceptance among trad callers), I envisioned the wave
balances as forward and back. Both of the balances are followed by hand
turns halfway around, and I dislike the feel of a hand turn following a
sideways balance (starting in either direction relative to the following
turn). In my experience, most dancers do sideways balances in Shadrack,
perhaps because they’re used to balancing sideways in dozens of other
dances. I find that even when I specify a forward and back balance, many
dancers don’t try it.
Tony Parkes
Billerica, Mass.
www.hands4.com
New book! Square Dance Calling: An Old Art for a New Century
(available now)
*From:* Emily Addison via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net>
*Sent:* Thursday, June 29, 2023 10:07 PM
*To:* contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net
*Subject:* [Callers] Dances with balancing waves forward and backward?
Hi folks :)
As a dancer, I remember loving the feel of waves lines that balance
forward and back. However, I don't have any dances that specifically call
for that.
Might you have suggestions of dances that specifically call for Bal F&B or
which often get modified for that feel of a balance?
Thank you!
:) Emily in Ottawa
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11 Jul
5:41 p.m.
Mad About Dancing, by Robert Cromartie, has 3 f/b waves of 4.
-Amy
On Mon, Jul 3, 2023, 2:47 AM Emily Addison via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Thanks so so much for all the really interesting and
helpful responses!
This conversation has been great!!!
(Apologies for my slow response. Last week of school for our kiddo and
then right into Canada Day long weekend meant that I haven't been on the
computer as much as I sometimes might be.)
Thank you :) :) :)
Emily in London ON this time :)
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On Sat, Jul 1, 2023 at 3:45 PM Bill Olson via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
FWIW, here's a dance from 2002 with a
different take, I guess. Reports
were that after the dance the women's/robin's arms were very tired. As it
says in the notes, the dance DID work and satisfied the original objective
(and sort of forced the balances to be forward and back). As I remember it
was pretty cool hearing the three balances all in succession. Do Make
Waves (billolsondance.com)
<https://www.billolsondance.com/domakewaves.html>
bill
------------------------------
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*Subject:* Re: [Callers] Re: Dances with balancing waves forward and
backward?
Big fan of box circulates, which imo are best served by
balancing right+fwd and left+back, so you have momentum for the next move
whether you're traveling forward or to the right. I don't know if this is
exactly what you're looking for, but if so and you want my fave box
circulate dances, I have lots 😅 and am happy to share.
As far as balance-and-walk-forward, I just went through my whole dang
collection and pulled these; turns out a lot of dances I really like have
this transition :D
- Some easy/classic ones are You Can Get There From Here (Linda
Leslie) and 20 Below (Bill Olson)
- A Gift to the Grange (Steve Zakon-Anderson), Robins on a Wire
(Will Mentor), Ellie's Pumpkin Show (Bill Olson) all have neat "wavy line
of <role> balance and walk forward, partner follow to cross and swing"
- Winter in Summerland (James Hutson & Jeff Spero) - waves balance
and walk fwd to hey. One of my all time fave dances!
- Serendipity (Chris Page) - box circulate with an extra turn;
includes walking forward from short waves. Also one of my fave dances.
- Eleanor's Reel (Bill Olson; see also, Eleanor's Twisted Reel, the
Luke Donforth var.) has MULTIPLE "walk forward to next wave" transitions,
great for visiting lots of people in a crowded hall
- In Cahoots (Rick Mohr) is this with shadows
- The Black Lake Inlet of Dr. Joe Rush (Seth Tepfer) - main hook of
this dance is a "right-left by" which is fun, but it also has balance
fwd/walk fwd to new waves
- Solstice '17 (Donna Hunt)
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Maia McCormick (she/her)
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On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 12:16 PM Bill Olson via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Ah Shadracks! Thanks for that one Tony!
Anyway, I agree with Tony and I myself find balancing "sideways" (not
really sideways, more on right diagonal then left diagonal) more natural
than forward and back. Maybe this is just because of the way one's arms are
pointing when in the wave. When I wrote Eleanor's Reel a measly 20 years
ago (hah hah), I used that to an advantage as the progressions between
waves were on the right and left diagonal.
Dance and notes here: Eleanor's Reel (billolsondance.com)
<https://www.billolsondance.com/eleanorsreel.html>
bill
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*Subject:* [Callers] Re: Dances with balancing waves forward and
backward?
When I wrote Shadrack’s Delight 51 years ago (one of the first all-moving
contras to gain wide acceptance among trad callers), I envisioned the wave
balances as forward and back. Both of the balances are followed by hand
turns halfway around, and I dislike the feel of a hand turn following a
sideways balance (starting in either direction relative to the following
turn). In my experience, most dancers do sideways balances in Shadrack,
perhaps because they’re used to balancing sideways in dozens of other
dances. I find that even when I specify a forward and back balance, many
dancers don’t try it.
Tony Parkes
Billerica, Mass.
www.hands4.com
New book! Square Dance Calling: An Old Art for a New Century
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*From:* Emily Addison via Contra Callers <
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*Sent:* Thursday, June 29, 2023 10:07 PM
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*Subject:* [Callers] Dances with balancing waves forward and backward?
Hi folks :)
As a dancer, I remember loving the feel of waves lines that balance
forward and back. However, I don't have any dances that specifically call
for that.
Might you have suggestions of dances that specifically call for Bal F&B
or which often get modified for that feel of a balance?
Thank you!
:) Emily in Ottawa
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4:41 a.m.
I've found that any dance with long waves that includes a Box Circulate
really lends itself well to forward/backward balancing.
On Thu, Jun 29, 2023, 22:07 Emily Addison via Contra Callers <
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Hi folks :)
As a dancer, I remember loving the feel of waves lines that balance
forward and back. However, I don't have any dances that specifically call
for that.
Might you have suggestions of dances that specifically call for Bal F&B or
which often get modified for that feel of a balance?
Thank you!
:) Emily in Ottawa
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