Jeff Kaufman asked where dancers dance the cast off with the twos acting as the pivot point. One place for sure is the Washington DC area (that's my original dance community). But I'm talking more about the past when we did the older dances. Some dancers responded to me directly. Two dancers from the same dance community reported completely different answers. One caller made the point that it's very rare for a caller to go over the fine points of a cast off. I think this is a good point since there are so many other things to teach, like safety (safe allemandes), timing, how to do the more common moves well etc. The finer points of a cast of are relatively speaking not that important. Thanks to all of you for helping me out on this.