12 Aug
2018
12 Aug
'18
9:08 p.m.
Hi folks,
Had a busload of beginners at my dance last night and realized I have a
hole in my program -- I don't have any good glossary/beginner-friendly
dances with a promenade but no chain or RL through. Any suggestions?
12 Aug
12 Aug
10:42 p.m.
Maia,
Here are two:
*Solstice Special — *Improper, Tony Parkes
A1. Neighbor do-si-do (8) / Neighbor swing (8)
A2. Long lines forward and back (8) / Gents allemande left 1½ (8)
B1. Partner balance (4), swing (12)
B2. Partner promenade (8) / Circle L ¾, pass through (8)
*Casbah Queens* — Improper, David McMullen
A1. Neighbor do-si-do (8) / Neighbor swing (8)
A2. Gents allemande left 1½ (8) / Partner allemande right 1½
B1. Ladies left shoulder walk around (6), Partner swing (10)
B2. Partner promenade (8) / Circle L ¾, pass through (8)
How did the evening go? Did the experienced dancers help?
Anne
On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 9:08 PM, Maia McCormick via Callers <
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Hi folks,
Had a busload of beginners at my dance last night and realized I have a
hole in my program -- I don't have any good glossary/beginner-friendly
dances with a promenade but no chain or RL through. Any suggestions?
Thanks!
Maia
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13 Aug
13 Aug
4:18 a.m.
Hi Maia,
Just take any dance with a Right & Left Through and change it to a Half
Promenade.
Happy dancing,
John
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Subject: [Callers] Glossary dances with promenade, no chain/RL through?
Hi folks,
Had a busload of beginners at my dance last night and realized I have a hole in my program
-- I don't have any good glossary/beginner-friendly dances with a promenade but no
chain or RL through. Any suggestions?
Thanks!
Maia
1 p.m.
On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 6:08 PM, Maia McCormick via Callers <
callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net
wrote:
Had a busload of beginners at my dance last night and realized I have a
hole in my program -- I don't have any good glossary/beginner-friendly
dances with a promenade but no chain or RL through. Any suggestions?
>
A nice one is Promenade Right by Luke Donforth (note: it has a circle
right):
http://www.madrobincallers.org/2013/06/25/three-tries-at-simple-dances/
Also, some of the dances below can be adapted by changing a right and left
thru to a promenade across.
On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 11:42 AM, Alexandra Deis-Lauby <adeislauby(a)gmail.com
wrote:
I find that there aren’t many dances with a Promenade
or RL that are NOT
followed by a circle left. When Dancing promenades to circle lefts, I don’t
like them as an experienced dancer because they don’t feel good and as a
caller I watch new dancers struggle with them because they don’t flow
logically unless the dancers correct for it (which one won’t know how to do
unless they’ve been dancing a very long time and are attuned to momentum.)
I agree with your assessment about promenade/right and left thru to circle
left.
I find right and left thru or promenade can also often be followed by one
of these, which flows better:
- ladies chain (very common)
- left hand star (example: True Grit by Chris Page:
http://chrispagecontra.awardspace.us/dances/#true-grit)
- circle right (see above)
- hey, ladies pass right (example: Zoey and Me by Sue Rosen:
http://dance.suerosencaller.com/dancedb/view/?title=Zoey+and+Me)
- ladies allemande right (example: A-1 Reel by Chris Weiler:
http://caller.chrisweiler.ws/dances.htm#a1reel)
Yoyo Zhou
1:36 p.m.
Yep, Alex, I totally agree on the point of promenade (or RL thru, or
ladies' chain) > circle L not flowing great! So I'm amending my original
criteria: *dances with a promenade, no chain or RL thru, and promenade is
NOT followed by a circle L*.
Thanks for the suggestions, folks :D
On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 1:00 PM Yoyo Zhou <yozhov(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 6:08 PM, Maia McCormick via
Callers <
callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Had a busload of beginners at my dance last night and realized I have a
hole in my program -- I don't have any good glossary/beginner-friendly
dances with a promenade but no chain or RL through. Any suggestions?
>
A nice one is Promenade Right by Luke Donforth (note: it has a circle
right):
http://www.madrobincallers.org/2013/06/25/three-tries-at-simple-dances/
Also, some of the dances below can be adapted by changing a right and left
thru to a promenade across.
On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 11:42 AM, Alexandra Deis-Lauby <
adeislauby(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I find that there aren’t many dances with a
Promenade or RL that are NOT
followed by a circle left. When Dancing promenades to circle lefts, I don’t
like them as an experienced dancer because they don’t feel good and as a
caller I watch new dancers struggle with them because they don’t flow
logically unless the dancers correct for it (which one won’t know how to do
unless they’ve been dancing a very long time and are attuned to momentum.)
I agree with your assessment about promenade/right and left thru to circle
left.
I find right and left thru or promenade can also often be followed by one
of these, which flows better:
- ladies chain (very common)
- left hand star (example: True Grit by Chris Page:
http://chrispagecontra.awardspace.us/dances/#true-grit)
- circle right (see above)
- hey, ladies pass right (example: Zoey and Me by Sue Rosen:
http://dance.suerosencaller.com/dancedb/view/?title=Zoey+and+Me)
- ladies allemande right (example: A-1 Reel by Chris Weiler:
http://caller.chrisweiler.ws/dances.htm#a1reel)
Yoyo Zhou
3:10 p.m.
Here's one of mine. Low piece count, promenade to chain is good flow.
(I never totally love the "chain, look for new neighbors" because you
either have to bail out of the courtesy turn to face new neighbor or
complete the turn (now facing partner) and turn away to new neighbor,
but it's common enough that it works.
I think this really is easy enough for your busload of beginners. Low
piece count, don't have to identify the neighbor who's dancing with
your partner (like many oval dances). It does have a chain; sorry about
that.
CLAIRE'S REQUEST
Alan Winston 11/17/2017
Form:IC Fig:NB&S;OvalL&R;BTR,PS;Prom,WC:
A1: Neighbor balance and swing
A2: Big Oval left and right
B1: 1-2: With hands, balance ring in original foursome
(keep the hand you've got with neighbor and take the free hand
with your
partner)
3-8: Ravens/ladies draw Partners to their side for a swing.
B2: 1-4: Partners promenade to gents/larks side
5-8: Ladies/Ravens chain to current neighbor, look for new neighbor
[But if you really don't want a chain even in the good flow
from promenade situation, ladies/ravens allemand R 1.5 to new neighbor,
which may be preferable given the courtesy turn problem mentioned above]
-- Alan
]
On 8/13/18 10:36 AM, Maia McCormick via Callers wrote:
Yep, Alex, I totally agree on the point of promenade
(or RL thru, or
ladies' chain) > circle L not flowing great! So I'm amending my
original criteria: *dances with a promenade, no chain or RL thru, and
promenade is NOT followed by a circle L*.
Thanks for the suggestions, folks :D
On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 1:00 PM Yoyo Zhou <yozhov(a)gmail.com
<mailto:yozhov@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 6:08 PM, Maia McCormick via Callers
<callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net
<mailto:callers@lists.sharedweight.net>> wrote:
Had a busload of beginners at my dance last night and realized
I have a hole in my program -- I don't have any good
glossary/beginner-friendly dances with a promenade but no
chain or RL through. Any suggestions?
A nice one is Promenade Right by Luke Donforth (note: it has a
circle right):
http://www.madrobincallers.org/2013/06/25/three-tries-at-simple-dances/
Also, some of the dances below can be adapted by changing a right
and left thru to a promenade across.
On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 11:42 AM,
AlexandraDeis-Lauby<adeislauby(a)gmail.com
<mailto:adeislauby@gmail.com>>wrote:
I find that there aren’t many dances with a Promenade or RL
that are NOT followed by a circle left. When Dancing
promenades to circle lefts, I don’t like them as an
experienced dancer because they don’t feel good and as a
caller I watch new dancers struggle with them because they
don’t flow logically unless the dancers correct for it (which
one won’t know how to do unless they’ve been dancing a very
long time and are attuned to momentum.)
I agree with your assessment about promenade/right and left thru
to circle left.
I find right and left thru or promenade can also often be followed
by one of these, which flows better:
- ladies chain (very common)
- left hand star (example: True Grit by Chris Page:
http://chrispagecontra.awardspace.us/dances/#true-grit)
- circle right (see above)
- hey, ladies pass right (example: Zoey and Me by Sue Rosen:
http://dance.suerosencaller.com/dancedb/view/?title=Zoey+and+Me)
- ladies allemande right (example: A-1 Reel by Chris Weiler:
http://caller.chrisweiler.ws/dances.htm#a1reel)
Yoyo Zhou
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2:02 p.m.
I agree that calling a circle right after a promenade across, has better
flow than a circle left, but I am reluctant to call a circle right in my
first dance (unless it follows a circle left). I prefer to use the first
dance to teach basic calls I will be using all night, and I believe that
the body, or muscle, memory learned in that first dance will help the
danceability all evening. Teaching them to circle right, when they will be
circle left all evening, works against my goals.
I do call dances with circle right, just not as part of my first few dances
of the evening.
Rich
On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 1:00 PM, Yoyo Zhou via Callers <
callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 6:08 PM, Maia McCormick via
Callers <
callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Had a busload of beginners at my dance last night and realized I have a
hole in my program -- I don't have any good glossary/beginner-friendly
dances with a promenade but no chain or RL through. Any suggestions?
>
A nice one is Promenade Right by Luke Donforth (note: it has a circle
right):
http://www.madrobincallers.org/2013/06/25/three-tries-at-simple-dances/
Also, some of the dances below can be adapted by changing a right and left
thru to a promenade across.
On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 11:42 AM, Alexandra Deis-Lauby <adeislau
by(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I find that there aren’t many dances with a
Promenade or RL that are NOT
followed by a circle left. When Dancing promenades to circle lefts, I don’t
like them as an experienced dancer because they don’t feel good and as a
caller I watch new dancers struggle with them because they don’t flow
logically unless the dancers correct for it (which one won’t know how to do
unless they’ve been dancing a very long time and are attuned to momentum.)
I agree with your assessment about promenade/right and left thru to circle
left.
I find right and left thru or promenade can also often be followed by one
of these, which flows better:
- ladies chain (very common)
- left hand star (example: True Grit by Chris Page:
http://chrispagecontra.awardspace.us/dances/#true-grit)
- circle right (see above)
- hey, ladies pass right (example: Zoey and Me by Sue Rosen:
http://dance.suerosencaller.com/dancedb/view/?title=Zoey+and+Me)
- ladies allemande right (example: A-1 Reel by Chris Weiler:
http://caller.chrisweiler.ws/dances.htm#a1reel)
Yoyo Zhou
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