18 Nov
2008
18 Nov
'08
4:13 p.m.
Mavis, in Lynn's improper variation, where do you do the Carmen thing - A1 w/ Ns? or
both then and B1 w/ P?
Yes, I too thought it was by Lisa Greenleaf - but when I called it in San Francisco a
couple of weeks ago, a dancer came up after and told me he thought it was by Kathy
Anderson. Trying to discover the truth online, I then found the Paul Balliet reference
too... yikes. Carmen seems very popular amongst dance creators!
I'd love to see all of these Carmen dances to compare them. Anyone have them?
Tina
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I too learned it as Carmen's Contra by Lisa Greenleaf
I use it often but as an IMPROPER Dance more often than
becket (thanks Lynn A)
A1) N B & Swing
A2) LL f&b
Ladies Right AL 1 1/2
B1) Partner B & S
B2) Circle Left 3 place
Pass Thru
Next Neighbor D-S-D
B1
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Hmmm... I've got it as Carmen's Contra by
Lisa
Greenleaf.
RAF
On Nov 16, 2008, at 11:53 PM, Tina Fields wrote:
> Hi callers -
>
> I've been calling this goofy, fun dance that
I
learned while dancing as "Carmen's
Scarf." I
want to ascribe it correctly. When I looked
online, I
found
references to (w/o the dance) for a Carmen's
Scarf
by
Paul Balliet and a Carmen's Hat by Kathy
Anderson.
Do
any of you know which one I've got here?
Thanks! -
Tina
>
> Carmen?s Scarf Becket contra
> ? FUN, E/I
>
> A1) (8) Cir L ?, pass thru
> (8) DSD next N
>
> A2) (4) with same N: clap clap, bump bump
> (12) Sw
>
> B1) (8) LL F&B
> (8) Women Al-R 1-1/2
>
> B2) (16) B & Sw P
>
> NB: Men empty R pockets 1st!
>
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1:03 a.m.
New subject: Carmen's Garments
I teach the bump bump for the A1
but I always tell folks after It each it and before we start the dance
that if doing the bump bump hurts their back, their hip or their vanity - they can just
do the regular balance & swing. Works either way!
Most folks opt for the bump bump!
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Mavis, in Lynn's improper variation, where do you do the
Carmen thing - A1 w/ Ns? or both then and B1 w/ P?
Yes, I too thought it was by Lisa Greenleaf - but when I
called it in San Francisco a couple of weeks ago, a dancer
came up after and told me he thought it was by Kathy
Anderson. Trying to discover the truth online, I then found
the Paul Balliet reference too... yikes. Carmen seems very
popular amongst dance creators!
I'd love to see all of these Carmen dances to compare
them. Anyone have them?
Tina
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I too learned it as Carmen's Contra by Lisa
Greenleaf
I use it often but as an IMPROPER Dance more often
than
becket (thanks Lynn A)
A1) N B & Swing
A2) LL f&b
Ladies Right AL 1 1/2
B1) Partner B & S
B2) Circle Left 3 place
Pass Thru
Next Neighbor D-S-D
B1
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> Subject: Re: [Callers] Carmen's Garments
> To: tfields8(a)yahoo.com, "Caller's list" <callers(a)sharedweight.net>
> Date: Monday, November 17, 2008, 2:25 AM
> Hmmm... I've got it as Carmen's Contra
by
Lisa
> Greenleaf.
>
> RAF
>
> On Nov 16, 2008, at 11:53 PM, Tina Fields wrote:
>
> > Hi callers -
> >
> > I've been calling this goofy, fun dance
that
I
online, I
learned while dancing as "Carmen's
Scarf." I
> want to ascribe it correctly. When I looked found
> references to (w/o the dance) for a Carmen's
Scarf
by
> Paul Balliet and a Carmen's Hat by Kathy
Anderson.
Do
> any of you know which one I've got here?
Thanks! -
Tina
> >
> > Carmen?s Scarf Becket contra
> > ? FUN, E/I
> >
> > A1) (8) Cir L ?, pass thru
> > (8) DSD next N
> >
> > A2) (4) with same N: clap clap, bump bump
> > (12) Sw
> >
> > B1) (8) LL F&B
> > (8) Women Al-R 1-1/2
> >
> > B2) (16) B & Sw P
> >
> > NB: Men empty R pockets 1st!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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New subject: Carmen's Garments
Thanks for mentioning this, Mavis.... As a somewhat bony person, I
did this dance at Folklife a few years back. The lines are very long
there and the dances sometimes go on for quite a while. By halfway
through the dance my hip was KILLING me and I was begging my
neighbors to stop bumping me. I gotta say, it's not one of my
favorite dances.
Joyce Miller
On Nov 18, 2008, at 10:03 PM, mavis mcgaugh wrote:
I teach the bump bump for the A1
but I always tell folks after It each it and before we start the
dance
that if doing the bump bump hurts their back, their hip or their
vanity - they can just do the regular balance & swing. Works
either way!
Most folks opt for the bump bump!
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From: Tina Fields <tfields8(a)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Callers] Carmen's Garments
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Date: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 1:13 PM
Mavis, in Lynn's improper variation, where do you do the
Carmen thing - A1 w/ Ns? or both then and B1 w/ P?
Yes, I too thought it was by Lisa Greenleaf - but when I
called it in San Francisco a couple of weeks ago, a dancer
came up after and told me he thought it was by Kathy
Anderson. Trying to discover the truth online, I then found
the Paul Balliet reference too... yikes. Carmen seems very
popular amongst dance creators!
I'd love to see all of these Carmen dances to compare
them. Anyone have them?
Tina
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I too learned it as Carmen's Contra by Lisa
Greenleaf
I use it often but as an IMPROPER Dance more often
than
becket (thanks Lynn A)
A1) N B & Swing
A2) LL f&b
Ladies Right AL 1 1/2
B1) Partner B & S
B2) Circle Left 3 place
Pass Thru
Next Neighbor D-S-D
B1
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From: Richard Allen Fischer
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> Subject: Re: [Callers] Carmen's Garments
> To: tfields8(a)yahoo.com, "Caller's list" <callers(a)sharedweight.net>
> Date: Monday, November 17, 2008, 2:25 AM
> Hmmm... I've got it as Carmen's Contra
by
Lisa
> Greenleaf.
>
> RAF
>
> On Nov 16, 2008, at 11:53 PM, Tina Fields wrote:
>
>> Hi callers -
>>
>> I've been calling this goofy, fun dance
that
I
online, I
learned while dancing as "Carmen's
Scarf." I
> want to ascribe it correctly. When I looked found
> references to (w/o the dance) for a Carmen's
Scarf
by
> Paul Balliet and a Carmen's Hat by Kathy
Anderson.
Do
> any of you know which one I've got here?
Thanks! -
Tina
>>
>> Carmen?s Scarf Becket contra
>> ? FUN, E/I
>>
>> A1) (8) Cir L ?, pass thru
>> (8) DSD next N
>>
>> A2) (4) with same N: clap clap, bump bump
>> (12) Sw
>>
>> B1) (8) LL F&B
>> (8) Women Al-R 1-1/2
>>
>> B2) (16) B & Sw P
>>
>> NB: Men empty R pockets 1st!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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11:48 p.m.
New subject: Carmen's Garments
I agree, Joyce! it's a novelty dance, and I wouldn't call it more
than once in a three year period at this point, and not for a hall
full of experienced dancers.
The original idea was Kathy Anderson's Carmen's Hat, and then I wrote
Carmen's Contra.
Lisa
Thanks for mentioning this, Mavis.... As a somewhat
bony person, I
did this dance at Folklife a few years back. The lines are very long
there and the dances sometimes go on for quite a while. By halfway
through the dance my hip was KILLING me and I was begging my
neighbors to stop bumping me. I gotta say, it's not one of my
favorite dances.
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