8 Mar
2019
8 Mar
'19
11:38 p.m.
Hey all,
I've felt like most box circulate dances use the circulate as a buildup
into a swing with *someone*. Looking at
http://www.contra.dance/thecallersbox, there are only 12 results for dances
with a circulate that isn't followed by a swing and 9 of those results
don't include their choreography (grumble grumble), so I can't actually
confirm that they belong in the result set.
I feel like there's a lot of potential for dances that have box circulates
followed by something other than a swing. Here are a few I've been messing
with:
*Peace Is Still the Way*
Becket
A1
(8) Pass the ocean, balance the wave
(6) Ladies allemande left 1.5x while gents orbit cw halfway
(2) Partner allemande right 1/4 to long waves, gents in
A2
(8) Long waves balance & circulate (gents cross, ladies loop)
(8) Long waves balance & circulate - ladies catch RH as they cross, scoop
up partner
B1
(6) Ladies star promenade right 3/4, next gents catch left
(6) Gents star promenade left 3/4
(4) Partner butterfly whirl
B2
(6) Ladies dosido
(10) Partner swing
*Snowbirds*
Becket
A1
(8) Ladies half hey passing right
(4) Ladies chain
(4) Gents courtesy turn, roll lady away R to L into long waves (gents in)**
A2
(8) Long waves balance & circulate (gents cross, ladies loop)
(8) Long waves balance & circulate (ladies cross, gents loop)
B1
(8) Mad robin CW, gents in front
(8) Circle left 3/4 (better as a chase with eye contact, rather than hands)
B2
(16) Partner meltdown swing
I'm interested in what people think and also any other dances folks have
with different moves following a circulate (other than waves balance + Rory
because honestly who are we fooling).
Thanks,
Isaac Banner
http://www.contra.dance/isaac
10 Mar
10 Mar
3:15 a.m.
On Fri, Mar 08, 2019, Isaac Banner via Callers wrote:
I've felt like most box circulate dances use the circulate as a buildup
into a swing with *someone*. Looking at
http://www.contra.dance/thecallersbox, there are only 12 results for dances
with a circulate that isn't followed by a swing and 9 of those results
don't include their choreography (grumble grumble), so I can't actually
confirm that they belong in the result set.
Square dancing has lots of options, but a lot of those options rely on
eight dancers in the group. Two options that seem suitable for contra
dance:
* outfacers run
* hinge (to change wave orientation ninety degrees)
No time to construct example choreo, but I can work up something if
people want.
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4:39 p.m.
"Scootback" would be another easy option after a box circulate for contra
dance. Here is an example:
Balance wave, Those facing in Allemande (L/R), comeback to same wave and
swing (P/N). Those facing out simply flip and await the swing.
Here is another with two consecutive scootbacks, but a balance can be
inserted between the scootbacks as well. Balance Wave, Those facing in
allemande outfacers loop. The new dancers facing in now allemande while
the new outfaces flip. Both dancers meet for a swing after the second
scootbback.
I wonder if Bob Isaacs has written one yet?
By Callerlab definition Scootbpck is 6 beats/steps, but they are often
danced in four beats/steps when followed by another scootback or a swing.
Rich Sbardella
Stafford, CT
On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 11:00 AM Aahz via Callers <
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On Fri, Mar 08, 2019, Isaac Banner via Callers wrote:
I've felt like most box circulate dances use the circulate as a buildup
into a swing with *someone*. Looking at
http://www.contra.dance/thecallersbox, there are only 12 results for
dances
with a circulate that isn't followed by a
swing and 9 of those results
don't include their choreography (grumble grumble), so I can't actually
confirm that they belong in the result set.
Square dancing has lots of options, but a lot of those options rely on
eight dancers in the group. Two options that seem suitable for contra
dance:
* outfacers run
* hinge (to change wave orientation ninety degrees)
No time to construct example choreo, but I can work up something if
people want.
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4:52 p.m.
Here is a dance I wrote after a conversation with Will Mentor about this same topic. Will
suggest the name. I really like the transition from long waves into a Hey.
Mentoring Mentor
Ben Werner
indecent (1s proper, 2s crossed over) - starting with Larks facing in, current neighbor in
Right Hand.
A1: (8) Long Waves Balance, Box Circulate
(8) Long Waves Balance, Box Circulate
A2: (16) Long Waves Balance, ¾ hey: Larks Left, Partner Right, Ravens Left, Neighbor
Right, Larks Left
B1: (16) Partner B&S (on ravens home side)
B2: (4) Pass the ocean* with larks RH in the middle,
(6) Partner allemande L ½ way, ravens Allemande R ½
(6) Neighbor allemande L 1 ¼ to long wavey lines
Alternate B2: change the pass the ocean to a pass through across.
* the pass the ocean is actually a mirror of the typical pass the ocean which normally has
LH in the middle. You pass Neighbors by Left Shoulder. Of the entire dance it seems like
this is what confuses people the most, which is why at this point I recommend the
alternative.
Cheers,
Ben Werner
ABQ NM
On Mar 10, 2019, at 10:39 AM, Rich Sbardella via
Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
"Scootback" would be another easy option after a box circulate for contra
dance. Here is an example:
Balance wave, Those facing in Allemande (L/R), comeback to same wave and swing (P/N).
Those facing out simply flip and await the swing.
Here is another with two consecutive scootbacks, but a balance can be inserted between
the scootbacks as well. Balance Wave, Those facing in allemande outfacers loop. The new
dancers facing in now allemande while the new outfaces flip. Both dancers meet for a
swing after the second scootbback.
I wonder if Bob Isaacs has written one yet?
By Callerlab definition Scootbpck is 6 beats/steps, but they are often danced in four
beats/steps when followed by another scootback or a swing.
Rich Sbardella
Stafford, CT
On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 11:00 AM Aahz via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net>
wrote:
On Fri, Mar 08, 2019, Isaac Banner via Callers wrote:
I've felt like most box circulate dances use the circulate as a buildup
into a swing with *someone*. Looking at
http://www.contra.dance/thecallersbox, there are only 12 results for dances
with a circulate that isn't followed by a swing and 9 of those results
don't include their choreography (grumble grumble), so I can't actually
confirm that they belong in the result set.
Square dancing has lots of options, but a lot of those options rely on
eight dancers in the group. Two options that seem suitable for contra
dance:
* outfacers run
* hinge (to change wave orientation ninety degrees)
No time to construct example choreo, but I can work up something if
people want.
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5:15 p.m.
I like it - this is what quickly came to mind after Rich's post. A part
timing is pretty tight but the momentum/connections throughout should help?
Riffing on Richness - DI - Don Veino 20190310
A1 (GNT/LRK face out) Long Wave Balance
Gents Loop Right *WHILE* LDY/RVN Allemande Left 1x and step into GNT/LRK's
original spot
Long Wave Balance, Box Circulate (GNT/LRK cross, LDY/RNV loop)
A2 (GNT/LRK face out) Long Wave Balance
Gents Loop Right *WHILE* LDY/RVN Allemande Left 1x back to PNR
PNR Swing
B1 Circle Left 3/4x, NBR Swing
B2 LLF&B
LDY/RVN Pass Right Half Hey into long waves (prior NBR LH, RH to new)
On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 12:40 PM Rich Sbardella via Callers <
callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
"Scootback" would be another easy option
after a box circulate for contra
dance. Here is an example:
Balance wave, Those facing in Allemande (L/R), comeback to same wave and
swing (P/N). Those facing out simply flip and await the swing.
Here is another with two consecutive scootbacks, but a balance can be
inserted between the scootbacks as well. Balance Wave, Those facing in
allemande outfacers loop. The new dancers facing in now allemande while
the new outfaces flip. Both dancers meet for a swing after the second
scootbback.
I wonder if Bob Isaacs has written one yet?
By Callerlab definition Scootbpck is 6 beats/steps, but they are often
danced in four beats/steps when followed by another scootback or a swing.
Rich Sbardella
Stafford, CT
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I've felt like most box circulate dances use the circulate as a buildup
into a swing with *someone*. Looking at
http://www.contra.dance/thecallersbox, there are only 12 results for
dances
with a circulate that isn't followed by a
swing and 9 of those results
don't include their choreography (grumble grumble), so I can't actually
confirm that they belong in the result set.
Square dancing has lots of options, but a lot of those options rely on
eight dancers in the group. Two options that seem suitable for contra
dance:
* outfacers run
* hinge (to change wave orientation ninety degrees)
No time to construct example choreo, but I can work up something if
people want.
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5:21 p.m.
Or a less balance-y alternative:
Too Rich for Me - DI - Don Veino 20190310
A1 (GNT/LRK face out) Long Wave Balance
Gents Loop Right *WHILE* LDY/RVN Allemande Left 1x and step into GNT/LRK's
original spot
Long Wave Balance, Box Circulate (GNT/LRK cross, LDY/RNV loop)
A2 PNR Right Shoulder Around & Swing
B1 Circle Left 3/4x, NBR Swing
B2 LLF&B
LDY/RVN Pass Right Half Hey into long waves (prior NBR LH, RH to new)
5:16 p.m.
On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 3:38 PM Isaac Banner via Callers
<callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Hey all,
I've felt like most box circulate dances use the circulate as a buildup into a swing
with someone. Looking at http://www.contra.dance/thecallersbox, there are only 12 results
for dances with a circulate that isn't followed by a swing and 9 of those results
don't include their choreography (grumble grumble), so I can't actually confirm
that they belong in the result set.
I feel like there's a lot of potential for dances that have box circulates followed
by something other than a swing. Here are a few I've been messing with:
It's hard.
Box circulates often tend to be done in pairs. And you can't (or
shouldn't) transition directly from swing to long waves. So, you've
already got:
Swing one
Eight-beat connector to swing two
Swing two
Eight beat (or 16) transition to long waves
Box circulate
Box Circulate
This leaves 8 to 16 beats to do something after the circulate, which
needs to go directly into a swing. You also need to fit in a
progression somewhere.
Or you could dispose of the neighbor swing, which gives you some
breathing room. The other issue is that the circulate is unusual
enough that it tends to be the signature figure of a dance, with other
figures supporting it.
I did write one, "Out of Circulation", which went from a circulate
directly into a half hey into a swing.
-Chris Page
San Diego
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