23 Dec
2009
23 Dec
'09
10:06 p.m.
Hi,
I have two questions about Steve Zaikon-Anderson's "Trip to Lambertville".
(1) At the end of A1 the men are in a long wavy line and they balance. It
seems that dancers are balancing right and then left most often. Since the
next figure is Gents Allemande Left, balancing left then right instead would
seem better as this would make sharing weight on the gent's allemande more
satisfying. (2) I have seen two versions of A2. In one the gent's
allemande left to their neighbor for a balance and swing. In the other
version the gents allemande left to a wavy line of 4 across the set, balance
in that wave and then swing their neighbor. In Nelson, NH, where I dance a
lot this version (into the wave of 4) is how it is danced. I am planning on
calling the dance at the Scout House in Concord MA soon and am wondering
which version is more common there.
Thanks for whatever help you can give,
Rickey Holt,
Fremont, NH.
23 Dec
23 Dec
10:19 p.m.
I don't know how they dance it up in MA, but here in NC the gents almd to a
wave of 4. I think that's how the dance was written, and I also feel that
it makes for a better dance!
Have fun...
Barbara Groh
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Hi,
I have two questions about Steve Zaikon-Anderson's "Trip to Lambertville".
(1) At the end of A1 the men are in a long wavy line and they balance. It
seems that dancers are balancing right and then left most often. Since
the
next figure is Gents Allemande Left, balancing left then right instead
would
seem better as this would make sharing weight on the gent's allemande more
satisfying. (2) I have seen two versions of A2. In one the gent's
allemande left to their neighbor for a balance and swing. In the other
version the gents allemande left to a wavy line of 4 across the set,
balance
in that wave and then swing their neighbor. In Nelson, NH, where I dance
a
lot this version (into the wave of 4) is how it is danced. I am planning
on
calling the dance at the Scout House in Concord MA soon and am wondering
which version is more common there.
Thanks for whatever help you can give,
Rickey Holt,
Fremont, NH.
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10:27 p.m.
Well, I live near Lambertville and, if my hazy memory serves me, have
only seen it danced (here in NJ and elsewhere) with the men
allemanding into the waves of 4, balance, and then an 8-count
neighbor swing. (Don't quite see how you could fit in an allemande
left and a balance and swing in the A2.) As for your query about the
men's footwork in their balance in the long waves, I see your point,
but in terms of eye contact I think it does make sense to balance
right, then left, and allemande with the gent you just made eye
contact with. (And in any event I think it would be hard to inculcate
balancing left and right.)
Enjoy calling at the Scout House!
Richard
On Dec 23, 2009, at 5:19 PM, Barbara Groh wrote:
I don't know how they dance it up in MA, but here
in NC the gents
almd to a wave of 4. I think that's how the dance was written, and
I also feel that it makes for a better dance!
Have fun...
Barbara Groh
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Subject: [Callers] Trip to Lambertville - 2 Questions
Hi,
I have two questions about Steve Zaikon-Anderson's "Trip to
Lambertville".
(1) At the end of A1 the men are in a long wavy line and they
balance. It
seems that dancers are balancing right and then left most often.
Since the
next figure is Gents Allemande Left, balancing left then right
instead would
seem better as this would make sharing weight on the gent's
allemande more
satisfying. (2) I have seen two versions of A2. In one the gent's
allemande left to their neighbor for a balance and swing. In the
other
version the gents allemande left to a wavy line of 4 across the
set, balance
in that wave and then swing their neighbor. In Nelson, NH, where
I dance a
lot this version (into the wave of 4) is how it is danced. I am
planning on
calling the dance at the Scout House in Concord MA soon and am
wondering
which version is more common there.
Thanks for whatever help you can give,
Rickey Holt,
Fremont, NH.
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10:40 p.m.
Hi Rickey,
Having just called this last week in San Francisco, I can confirm that I've seen it
both ways you describe. I normally have both
the women's and men's line balance as left and right, just so it's consistent.
Another variant I see is that at the end of the
gent's allemande, some gents don't want to do the balance at all and just go swing
their neighbor. I personally feel this looses
the nicety of the line-of-4 wave (which is how I learned it), but
what's-a-caller-to-do? I use reminder nudges by occaisionally
re-calling just the "find your neighbor going into a wave and balance" line, but
eventually you just let the dancers dance, yes?
Enjoy!
Ric Goldman
letsdance(a)rgoldman.org
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Subject: [Callers] Trip to Lambertville - 2 Questions
Hi,
I have two questions about Steve Zaikon-Anderson's "Trip to
Lambertville".
(1) At the end of A1 the men are in a long wavy line and they
balance. It
seems that dancers are balancing right and then left most
often. Since the
next figure is Gents Allemande Left, balancing left then
right instead would
seem better as this would make sharing weight on the gent's
allemande more
satisfying. (2) I have seen two versions of A2. In one the gent's
allemande left to their neighbor for a balance and swing. In
the other
version the gents allemande left to a wavy line of 4 across
the set, balance
in that wave and then swing their neighbor. In Nelson, NH,
where I dance a
lot this version (into the wave of 4) is how it is danced. I
am planning on
calling the dance at the Scout House in Concord MA soon and
am wondering
which version is more common there.
Thanks for whatever help you can give,
Rickey Holt,
Fremont, NH.
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11:48 p.m.
Hi Rickey,
I agree with the others that the gents allemande to a wave. That's my
experience of it, but it doesn't hurt to check Give and Take.
For the balances, I've always liked to balance to the right and
backwards. That gives you the distance to set up the tension before the
allemande left and lets you make eye contact with people. That said, you
can suggest it, but that doesn't mean that many people will follow. It's
always good for the caller to put style points out there, but not get
too hung up on them being followed. Some people are ready to hear them,
but some aren't.
Good luck!
Chris Weiler
Goffstown, NH
Rickey wrote:
Hi,
I have two questions about Steve Zaikon-Anderson's "Trip to Lambertville".
(1) At the end of A1 the men are in a long wavy line and they balance. It
seems that dancers are balancing right and then left most often. Since the
next figure is Gents Allemande Left, balancing left then right instead would
seem better as this would make sharing weight on the gent's allemande more
satisfying. (2) I have seen two versions of A2. In one the gent's
allemande left to their neighbor for a balance and swing. In the other
version the gents allemande left to a wavy line of 4 across the set, balance
in that wave and then swing their neighbor. In Nelson, NH, where I dance a
lot this version (into the wave of 4) is how it is danced. I am planning on
calling the dance at the Scout House in Concord MA soon and am wondering
which version is more common there.
Thanks for whatever help you can give,
Rickey Holt,
Fremont, NH.
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11:59 p.m.
And I love a balance forward and back and forward to the allemande
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Hi Rickey,
I agree with the others that the gents allemande to a wave. That's my
experience of it, but it doesn't hurt to check Give and Take.
For the balances, I've always liked to balance to the right and
backwards. That gives you the distance to set up the tension before the
allemande left and lets you make eye contact with people. That said, you
can suggest it, but that doesn't mean that many people will follow. It's
always good for the caller to put style points out there, but not get
too hung up on them being followed. Some people are ready to hear them,
but some aren't.
Good luck!
Chris Weiler
Goffstown, NH
Rickey wrote:
Hi,
I have two questions about Steve Zaikon-Anderson's "Trip to Lambertville".
(1) At the end of A1 the men are in a long wavy line and they balance. It
seems that dancers are balancing right and then left most often. Since
the
next figure is Gents Allemande Left, balancing left
then right instead
would
seem better as this would make sharing weight on the
gent's allemande more
satisfying. (2) I have seen two versions of A2. In one the gent's
allemande left to their neighbor for a balance and swing. In the other
version the gents allemande left to a wavy line of 4 across the set,
balance
in that wave and then swing their neighbor. In
Nelson, NH, where I dance
a
lot this version (into the wave of 4) is how it is
danced. I am planning
on
calling the dance at the Scout House in Concord MA
soon and am wondering
which version is more common there.
Thanks for whatever help you can give,
Rickey Holt,
Fremont, NH.
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24 Dec
24 Dec
5:31 p.m.
Hi Leda! (miss you guys)
I just got introduced to the "Right and Backward" (or "Left and
Backward")
balance by Lisa Greenleaf, and thought I'd put in a plug for it. Though it
is strange at first to be moving at a slight diagonal during a balance, boy,
is it a nice feeling once my brain decided it was okay! The balance to the
Right is nice because you get the friendly moment with whoever is there and
you *don't* get your shoulder accidentally pulled out of its socket by a
balance forward if the other person is more enthusiastic than your body can
endure. Then the balance back still gives you all that nice momentum that
the balance forward and back gives, which I have always loved.
According to Chris's post, I'm coming late to the Right and Backwards party,
but I'm still glad to be there.
M
E
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Leda Shapiro <ledas(a)pacbell.net> wrote:
And I love a balance forward and back and forward to
the allemande
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Subject: Re: [Callers] Trip to Lambertville - 2 Questions
Hi Rickey,
I agree with the others that the gents allemande to a wave. That's my
experience of it, but it doesn't hurt to check Give and Take.
For the balances, I've always liked to balance to the right and
backwards. That gives you the distance to set up the tension before the
allemande left and lets you make eye contact with people. That said, you
can suggest it, but that doesn't mean that many people will follow. It's
always good for the caller to put style points out there, but not get
too hung up on them being followed. Some people are ready to hear them,
but some aren't.
Good luck!
Chris Weiler
Goffstown, NH
Rickey wrote:
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For the good are always the merry,
Save by an evil chance,
And the merry love the fiddle
And the merry love to dance. ~ William Butler Yeats
Hi,
I have two questions about Steve Zaikon-Anderson's "Trip to
Lambertville".
(1) At the end of A1 the men are in a long wavy
line and they balance.
It
seems that dancers are balancing right and then
left most often. Since
the
next figure is Gents Allemande Left, balancing
left then right instead
would
seem better as this would make sharing weight on
the gent's allemande
more
satisfying. (2) I have seen two versions of A2.
In one the gent's
allemande left to their neighbor for a balance and swing. In the other
version the gents allemande left to a wavy line of 4 across the set,
balance
in that wave and then swing their neighbor. In
Nelson, NH, where I dance
a
lot this version (into the wave of 4) is how it
is danced. I am planning
on
calling the dance at the Scout House in Concord
MA soon and am wondering
which version is more common there.
Thanks for whatever help you can give,
Rickey Holt,
Fremont, NH.
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