Thanks Bill! And those tight allemandes in B1 are an extra bonus.
On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 12:31 PM Bill Olson <callbill(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
Here we go...:
Hume Fogg Reel Becket Susan Kevra
A1 Circle Left 3/4, pass through and swing the next
A2 LL F/B, Ladies Chain
B1 Ladies Allemand R 1x Turn Partner Left 1 1/2 Gents turn R 1x
B2 Partner B and Swing
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*Subject:* Re: [Callers] Good dances with challenging timing
Thanks all for the great suggestions! Here’s the workshop I’m planning:
(1) Light, (hopefully) humorous, and (just maybe) illuminating intro
about how timing awareness increases dancing fun.
(2) A simple dance with all 8-beat figures:
A1: DD N, N sw
A2: Gents Al L 1½, P sw
B1: F&B, R&L
B2: LC, star L
While dancing we all count out loud and say 2-beat calls together e.g. “1,
2, 3, 4, 5, 6, Ladies Chain”.
(3) Joyride (Erik Weberg) - use our 8-count awareness to take a full 8
counts for the first three figures (gypsy, mad robin, half poussette). OK
to keep counting out loud.
(4) Hull’s Victory - demonstrate how changing your arm length allows a
loose or tight allemande. Walk through both the loose trad way (allemande
neighbor once , 1’s allemande ½ ) and tight modern way (allemande
neighbor twice , 1’s allemande once ). In 5-couple sets dance it 5
times loose and 10 times tight.
(5) Princeton Petronellas (Bob Isaacs):
A1: N B&S
A2: Bal O, spin, P allemande L ½, half hey
B1: P B&S
B2: Bal O, spin, N allemande L ½, half hey
Use our 8-count awareness to end the swings in time to be right on the
money for the ring balances. Take 2 beats each for the allemandes and hey
passes for a satisfying B&S.
(6) If there’s time I’d like to add a dance with circle left ¾ , pass
through , swing new neighbor . In my experience most people dance it
too loosely so you never get an 8-count swing. My favorite dance with that
sequence is Cary Ravitz’s Heart of Glass (where I usually substitute shift
left , circle left ¾ , swing neighbor) but this session is already
long on heys. Anybody have another good/great dance with that sequence and
On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 6:53 PM, Read Weaver via Callers <
I find pretty much any dance that ends with three changes of rights &
lefts has people late to the first figure, because they take 8 counts to do
those three changes (rather than 6 counts to do the three changes, and 2
counts to move on).
Jamaica Plain, MA
On Feb 1, 2018, at 10:26 AM, Rick Mohr via Callers <
Some dances require skill to make the timing work — like starting a figure
with dispatch so a later balance will be on time, or doing a figure
leisurely to avoid being early for the next one. But while many dancers
have the awareness to make things like that work, many dancers don’t. Since
there are plenty of fantastic dances without such challenges I tend not to
call dances which have them.
But I’ve also found that such dances are great when I’m asked to lead a
workshop helping dancers improve their skills. Longtime dancers aren't
eager to change their habits, and having something concrete like making a
balance on time adds motivation, ideally opening a window where learning is
Unfortunately though I've discarded or passed on collecting most such
Have any suggestions of good/great dances where the timing is tight or
loose in spots?
One of mine in that category is Crow Flight (
Learning opportunities include gents flowing from swing to circle (common
with aware dancers but a revelation to some), ladies moving efficiently
from circle to hey, and doing a hey with two steps per pass (possibly
realizing the difference between a 3-change and 4-change half hey).
Thanks for any ideas!
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