3 Feb
2011
3 Feb
'11
4:13 a.m.
Hello all,
I think I've written a new dance, but I like to check. Anyone
recognize this as pre-existing?
Rory's Chewing Star
by Luke Donev
A1
Right Hand Star 1x
Neighbor Do-si-do to a short wavy line
A2
Balance Right and Left, slide Right
Balance Left and Right, slide Left
B1
Neighbor Allemande R 1/2x
Men Allemande L 1/2x
Partner swing
B2
Men Allemande L 1 1/2x
Women join in for a hands across Left hand star 1x
Other comments also welcome. The name is from my niece's nickname.
She's almost 1, and likes to chew on things.
--
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3 Feb
3 Feb
6:11 a.m.
New subject: Dance Name
Danced a 4-face-4 dance tonight that Nils Fredland called. I wrote down the
moves but forgot the name and author. I do remember that the author is from
Chicago. Here are the moves:
A1: Lines of 4 Forward and Back
Ladies Grand Chain (to Opposite)
A2: Opposite Balance and Swing
B1: 8 Circle left 1/2, Gents in center, walk single file CCW 1x,
while Ladies walk CW 1/2
B2: Partner Balance and Swing
Anyone recognize it.
Thanks
6:28 a.m.
New subject: Dance Name
I might not know the name, but for proper flow the A1 should be ladies RH Star, not a
grand chain, which is always followed by a courtesy turn. In this dance there should be
no courtesy turn, as the next move is a balance and swing with the opposite.
Dave Colestock
Harrisburg, PA
--- On Thu, 2/3/11, Rich Goss <richgoss(a)comcast.net> wrote:
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Subject: [Callers] Dance Name
To: "Shared Weight" <callers(a)sharedweight.net>
Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 1:11 AM
Danced a 4-face-4 dance tonight that Nils Fredland called. I wrote down the
moves but forgot the name and author. I do remember that the author is from
Chicago. Here are the moves:
A1: Lines of 4 Forward and Back
Ladies Grand Chain (to Opposite)
A2: Opposite Balance and Swing
B1: 8 Circle left 1/2, Gents in center, walk single file CCW 1x,
while Ladies walk CW 1/2
B2: Partner Balance and Swing
Anyone recognize it.
Thanks
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11:54 p.m.
New subject: Dance Name
A couple of thoughts about the dance below:
1. If no one on this list knows it, an email to Nils might be the next
step. I have found him quite happy to respond to requests!
2. If I were to make an educated guess, I would say that it might be
an Al Olson dance.
3. The ladies grand chain is actually to the diagonal opposite, rather
than the opposite neighbor across. Perhaps a small point, but an
important distinction when it comes to calling/teaching Four Face Four
(Mescolanza) formations.
4. The problem with changing the half grand chain to a star is that
there will be time left over. A courtesy turn should take 4 counts of
the music; if a half star is done, which should take about 4 counts of
the music, the ladies will reach their diagonal opposites too soon,
and have to wait 4 counts before doing the Balance and Swing. While it
may not be the most flowing move to go from a courtesy turn into a
balance and swing, it certainly is readily done, and the dancers can
be playful with how they dance these moves.
If no one knows the dance, then I will be happy to get in touch with
Nils!
warmly, Linda Leslie
On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:28 AM, Dave Colestock wrote:
I might not know the name, but for proper flow the A1
should be
ladies RH Star, not a grand chain, which is always followed by a
courtesy turn. In this dance there should be no courtesy turn, as
the next move is a balance and swing with the opposite.
Dave Colestock
Harrisburg, PA
--- On Thu, 2/3/11, Rich Goss <richgoss(a)comcast.net> wrote:
From: Rich Goss <richgoss(a)comcast.net>
Subject: [Callers] Dance Name
To: "Shared Weight" <callers(a)sharedweight.net>
Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 1:11 AM
Danced a 4-face-4 dance tonight that Nils Fredland called. I wrote
down the
moves but forgot the name and author. I do remember that the author
is from
Chicago. Here are the moves:
A1: Lines of 4 Forward and Back
Ladies Grand Chain (to Opposite)
A2: Opposite Balance and Swing
B1: 8 Circle left 1/2, Gents in center, walk single file CCW
1x,
while Ladies walk CW 1/2
B2: Partner Balance and Swing
Anyone recognize it.
Thanks
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4 Feb
4 Feb
12:38 a.m.
New subject: Dance Name
I have it (also from nils) as follows. Nils mentioned at the time that
it was a modification of the original (somewhat more complicated
dance). Also notice that after the circle left it was a gents star
rather than gents promenade -- for me that was a really cool moment in
the dance...when the gents reach back for that Star and pop out of the
circle. Possibly Nils has made more changes. At that point, it starts
to really become a new dance, tho.
*Ring Around the Daisy (modified)*-- Shawn Brenneman4 Face 4
NOTE:*Very* circular for the ladies -- probably not one to call.
A1LL F&B
4 ladies chain to diagonal neighbor
A2N B&S
B1All 8 Circle L 1/2
Ladies keep walking, gents star left 1x
Ladies continue walking in the same direction you were circling, Gents
Reach back
B2P B&S
On 2/3/2011 6:54 PM, Linda Leslie wrote:
A couple of thoughts about the dance below:
1. If no one on this list knows it, an email to Nils might be the next
step. I have found him quite happy to respond to requests!
2. If I were to make an educated guess, I would say that it might be
an Al Olson dance.
3. The ladies grand chain is actually to the diagonal opposite, rather
than the opposite neighbor across. Perhaps a small point, but an
important distinction when it comes to calling/teaching Four Face Four
(Mescolanza) formations.
4. The problem with changing the half grand chain to a star is that
there will be time left over. A courtesy turn should take 4 counts of
the music; if a half star is done, which should take about 4 counts of
the music, the ladies will reach their diagonal opposites too soon,
and have to wait 4 counts before doing the Balance and Swing. While it
may not be the most flowing move to go from a courtesy turn into a
balance and swing, it certainly is readily done, and the dancers can
be playful with how they dance these moves.
If no one knows the dance, then I will be happy to get in touch with
Nils!
warmly, Linda Leslie
On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:28 AM, Dave Colestock wrote:
I might not know the name, but for proper flow
the A1 should be
ladies RH Star, not a grand chain, which is always followed by a
courtesy turn. In this dance there should be no courtesy turn, as
the next move is a balance and swing with the opposite.
Dave Colestock
Harrisburg, PA
--- On Thu, 2/3/11, Rich Goss <richgoss(a)comcast.net> wrote:
From: Rich Goss <richgoss(a)comcast.net>
Subject: [Callers] Dance Name
To: "Shared Weight" <callers(a)sharedweight.net>
Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 1:11 AM
Danced a 4-face-4 dance tonight that Nils Fredland called. I wrote
down the
moves but forgot the name and author. I do remember that the author
is from
Chicago. Here are the moves:
A1: Lines of 4 Forward and Back
Ladies Grand Chain (to Opposite)
A2: Opposite Balance and Swing
B1: 8 Circle left 1/2, Gents in center, walk single file CCW 1x,
while Ladies walk CW 1/2
B2: Partner Balance and Swing
Anyone recognize it.
Thanks
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3 Feb
3 Feb
3:54 p.m.
Hi Luke:
This is new by me, and if so, it looks very nice. Is the star R wrist-grip, so neighbors
can tug into the dosido?
Bob
From: luke.donev(a)gmail.com
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 22:13:41 -0600
To: callers(a)sharedweight.net
Subject: [Callers] New(?) dance
Hello all,
I think I've written a new dance, but I like to check. Anyone
recognize this as pre-existing?
Rory's Chewing Star
by Luke Donev
A1
Right Hand Star 1x
Neighbor Do-si-do to a short wavy line
A2
Balance Right and Left, slide Right
Balance Left and Right, slide Left
B1
Neighbor Allemande R 1/2x
Men Allemande L 1/2x
Partner swing
B2
Men Allemande L 1 1/2x
Women join in for a hands across Left hand star 1x
Other comments also welcome. The name is from my niece's nickname.
She's almost 1, and likes to chew on things.
--
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Luke.Donev(a)gmail.com
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4:26 p.m.
The intention was for the first star to be a wrist grip to facilitate the tug.
It could be an allemande right instead of a do-si-do for more
connection, but I thought I'd ease up on the arms.
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Bob Isaacs <isaacsbob(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi Luke:
This is new by me, and if so, it looks very nice. Is the star R wrist-grip, so neighbors
can tug into the dosido?
Bob
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http://www.lukedonev.com
Luke.Donev(a)gmail.com
From: luke.donev(a)gmail.com
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 22:13:41 -0600
To: callers(a)sharedweight.net
Subject: [Callers] New(?) dance
Hello all,
I think I've written a new dance, but I like to check. Anyone
recognize this as pre-existing?
Rory's Chewing Star
by Luke Donev
A1
Right Hand Star 1x
Neighbor Do-si-do to a short wavy line
A2
Balance Right and Left, slide Right
Balance Left and Right, slide Left
B1
Neighbor Allemande R 1/2x
Men Allemande L 1/2x
Partner swing
B2
Men Allemande L 1 1/2x
Women join in for a hands across Left hand star 1x
Other comments also welcome. The name is from my niece's nickname.
She's almost 1, and likes to chew on things.
--
Luke Donev
http://www.lukedonev.com
Luke.Donev(a)gmail.com
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6 Feb
6 Feb
6:18 a.m.
I called this tonight at a dance. I taught it as the Right hand star being
wrist grip and the Left hand star being hands across. By the end of the
dance, everyone was doing two hands across stars. I haven't gotten to dance
it, but the consensus on the floor was definitely hands across stars for
both. Folks still liked the transition to a neighbor do-si-do, it just
wasn't what I expected.
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Luke Donev <luke.donev(a)gmail.com> wrote:
The intention was for the first star to be a wrist
grip to facilitate the
tug.
It could be an allemande right instead of a do-si-do for more
connection, but I thought I'd ease up on the arms.
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Bob Isaacs <isaacsbob(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
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Hi Luke:
This is new by me, and if so, it looks very nice. Is the star R
wrist-grip, so
neighbors can tug into the dosido?
Bob
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http://www.lukedonev.com
Luke.Donev(a)gmail.com
From: luke.donev(a)gmail.com
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 22:13:41 -0600
To: callers(a)sharedweight.net
Subject: [Callers] New(?) dance
Hello all,
I think I've written a new dance, but I like to check. Anyone
recognize this as pre-existing?
Rory's Chewing Star
by Luke Donev
A1
Right Hand Star 1x
Neighbor Do-si-do to a short wavy line
A2
Balance Right and Left, slide Right
Balance Left and Right, slide Left
B1
Neighbor Allemande R 1/2x
Men Allemande L 1/2x
Partner swing
B2
Men Allemande L 1 1/2x
Women join in for a hands across Left hand star 1x
Other comments also welcome. The name is from my niece's nickname.
She's almost 1, and likes to chew on things.
--
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http://www.lukedonev.com
Luke.Donev(a)gmail.com
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2:31 p.m.
Actually - that makes sense. With one star flowing into the next, it would feel
awkward if they were not done the same.
I still can't picture that transition to the do-si-do - I'll have to try it - or
better yet - we have a weekly party her that is perfect for analyzing dances in
great detail.
Mac
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Sent: Sun, February 6, 2011 12:18:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Callers] New(?) dance
I called this tonight at a dance. I taught it as the Right hand star being
wrist grip and the Left hand star being hands across. By the end of the
dance, everyone was doing two hands across stars. I haven't gotten to dance
it, but the consensus on the floor was definitely hands across stars for
both. Folks still liked the transition to a neighbor do-si-do, it just
wasn't what I expected.
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Luke Donev <luke.donev(a)gmail.com> wrote:
The intention was for the first star to be a wrist
grip to facilitate the
tug.
It could be an allemande right instead of a do-si-do for more
connection, but I thought I'd ease up on the arms.
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Bob Isaacs <isaacsbob(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
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Hi Luke:
This is new by me, and if so, it looks very nice. Is the star R
wrist-grip, so
neighbors can tug into the dosido?
Bob
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Luke.Donev(a)gmail.com
From: luke.donev(a)gmail.com
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 22:13:41 -0600
To: callers(a)sharedweight.net
Subject: [Callers] New(?) dance
Hello all,
I think I've written a new dance, but I like to check. Anyone
recognize this as pre-existing?
Rory's Chewing Star
by Luke Donev
A1
Right Hand Star 1x
Neighbor Do-si-do to a short wavy line
A2
Balance Right and Left, slide Right
Balance Left and Right, slide Left
B1
Neighbor Allemande R 1/2x
Men Allemande L 1/2x
Partner swing
B2
Men Allemande L 1 1/2x
Women join in for a hands across Left hand star 1x
Other comments also welcome. The name is from my niece's nickname.
She's almost 1, and likes to chew on things.
--
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http://www.lukedonev.com
Luke.Donev(a)gmail.com
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4 Feb
4 Feb
6:18 a.m.
Luke,
Mostly a nice dance. I like the symmetry, the mix of bouncy and
smooth...The only place I see a bit of awkwardness is for the women
transitioning from the R hand Star into an DSD. Not insuperable, but
the W have to turn around/switch direction to do the DSD. A solid
dancer could do it easily enough I'm sure, but it is less good for a
newer dancer, who may still have orientation problems, or for someone
who is less physically able to do a quick change of direction. Even
with the assistance of her neighbor behind her, she has to check her
momentum and direction at once. I'm sorry I don't have a brilliant
solution to this.
Andrea
On 2/3/2011 10:54 AM, Bob Isaacs wrote:
Hi Luke:
This is new by me, and if so, it looks very nice. Is the star R wrist-grip, so neighbors
can tug into the dosido?
Bob
From: luke.donev(a)gmail.com
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 22:13:41 -0600
To: callers(a)sharedweight.net
Subject: [Callers] New(?) dance
Hello all,
I think I've written a new dance, but I like to check. Anyone
recognize this as pre-existing?
Rory's Chewing Star
by Luke Donev
A1
Right Hand Star 1x
Neighbor Do-si-do to a short wavy line
A2
Balance Right and Left, slide Right
Balance Left and Right, slide Left
B1
Neighbor Allemande R 1/2x
Men Allemande L 1/2x
Partner swing
B2
Men Allemande L 1 1/2x
Women join in for a hands across Left hand star 1x
Other comments also welcome. The name is from my niece's nickname.
She's almost 1, and likes to chew on things.
--
Luke Donev
http://www.lukedonev.com
Luke.Donev(a)gmail.com
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7 Feb
7 Feb
7:11 p.m.
New subject: Dance Name
I picked up a dance of yours from Vicki Hernden at Chattaboogie. I love
the dance, and have called it a few times (and plan to call it this
Saturday at our ElectroTrad dance (contra to specially edited recorded
sets of Neo Traditional music (traditional instruments + electronica,
percussion and such)). Would love a name for it.
The dance is:
A1 P B&S
A2 Ladies Alle R 1.5
N Sw
B1 Down the hall, 2's turn back
swing the one behind you
B2 Up the hall
Circle L 3/4
Thanks!
Jack
7:28 p.m.
New subject: Dance Name
Just a reminder to everyone that when you use recorded music for paid
events, you need to pay an ASCAP/BMI licensing fee. It's true that the
artists get next to nothing of the fees that are paid, but if you are doing
a public event, you can be sure that the ASCAP/BMI lawyers will find you and
send you legal letters asking you to pay. Generally speaking, the fees are
low - I paid about $80-100/yr when I was teaching swing dance - but they
will find you eventually.
Will
on 2/7/11 2:11 PM, Jack Mitchell at jamitch3(a)mindspring.com wrote:
I picked up a dance of yours from Vicki Hernden at
Chattaboogie. I love
the dance, and have called it a few times (and plan to call it this
Saturday at our ElectroTrad dance (contra to specially edited recorded
sets of Neo Traditional music (traditional instruments + electronica,
percussion and such)). Would love a name for it.
The dance is:
A1 P B&S
A2 Ladies Alle R 1.5
N Sw
B1 Down the hall, 2's turn back
swing the one behind you
B2 Up the hall
Circle L 3/4
Thanks!
Jack
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7:32 p.m.
New subject: Dance Name
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Jack Mitchell <jamitch3(a)mindspring.com> wrote:
I picked up a dance of yours from Vicki Hernden at
Chattaboogie. I love the
dance, and have called it a few times (and plan to call it this Saturday at
our ElectroTrad dance (contra to specially edited recorded sets of Neo
Traditional music (traditional instruments + electronica, percussion and
such)). Would love a name for it.
The dance is:
A1 P B&S
A2 Ladies Alle R 1.5
N Sw
B1 Down the hall, 2's turn back
swing the one behind you
B2 Up the hall
Circle L 3/4
Thanks!
Jack
This looks like a variant of the original "Two-way Street" by Bob
Isaacs. The original ended with the partner swing, and it was a
partner gypsy and swing.
It's since been revised by Lisa Greenleaf -- after the circle left is
a pass through, shadow gypsy left, and then a shorter partner swing.
-Chris Page
San Diego
7:39 p.m.
New subject: Dance Name
Hi Jack:
This is a variation of the following:
Two Way Street Lisa Greenleaf/Bob Isaacs Becket-L
A1. Ladies allemande R 1 1/2, N1 swing - face down
A2. Down hall in line/4 - outside walk and insides turn R, N2 swing
B1. Up hall and bend line, circle L 3/4 and pass through
B2. Shadow gypsy (or allemande) L, partner swing
I originally had partner gypsy and swing in B2, but that led to a very long swing. Lisa
added the pass through to the shadow a few years ago and that give a more reasonable
length swing.
For the progression in A2 I do not use 1s and 2s, as they are not obvious in the lines/4.
I call "outsides walk and insides turn" instead. It is also useful to do a
second walkthrough to point out to the 2s that when they get to the top they will need to
go down the hall as a couple to get back in on the unusual progression.
Bob
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 14:11:14 -0500
From: jamitch3(a)mindspring.com
To: callers(a)sharedweight.net
Subject: [Callers] Dance Name
I picked up a dance of yours from Vicki Hernden at Chattaboogie. I love
the dance, and have called it a few times (and plan to call it this
Saturday at our ElectroTrad dance (contra to specially edited recorded
sets of Neo Traditional music (traditional instruments + electronica,
percussion and such)). Would love a name for it.
The dance is:
A1 P B&S
A2 Ladies Alle R 1.5
N Sw
B1 Down the hall, 2's turn back
swing the one behind you
B2 Up the hall
Circle L 3/4
Thanks!
Jack
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8 Feb
8 Feb
8:13 a.m.
New subject: Two Way Street (was Dance Name)
Hi Bob,
I can't wait to try this one out at our next dance. The end effects seem
very natural, and the neutrals are able to participate in much of the dance.
When 1s come off as outsides walking, or 2s as insides turning R, they can
swing each other and then face back into the line (as in an improper dance).
They can then move up the hall as a couple (moving forward or backwards, resp)
and participate in B2 and finish as neutrals facing back into the line. Neutrals
move as couples and come in at A2b.
Cheers, Bill
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