20 Aug
2013
20 Aug
'13
10:47 p.m.
Hi everyone,I'm hoping that some of you will be able and willing to help me identify a
few dances; I'm new on this list although I've been calling for a while.
My wife and I moved to Tucson for her job, and I've been getting more gigs here than I
did in Colorado. I left all of my dance books up there, but went back and brought down
all my old notes and have been typing them up and putting them in order. Unfortunately,
I've got a bunch of contras that I have incomplete/incorrect information on and
I'd like to know the proper titles, sequences, and authors. There are even a few
which I may have written years ago myself, but it isn't indicated on the bits of scrap
paper.
Any help that anyone can provide would be fantastic!
This first bunch all came from the 2000 Pinewoods American Dance Week and Caller's
Course, and were all written by other people:
Unknown
(from my notes: Called by Larry Edelman at Pinewoods 2000)
A1: Dosado below to an ocean wave (8) and balance (4). Turn 1/2 right and 1/2 left (4)
A2: Balance (4), 1/2 hey (8), Balance again (4)
B1: 1/2 hey again (8), Partner Swing (8)
B2: Right and left thru and ladies chain (16)
***Timing seems strange in A2
Unknown Duple Improper
(called by Larry Edelman, Pinewoods 2000)
A1: Balance and swing below
A2: Circle once around; Ladies chain across
B1: Ladies dosado; Partner swing
B2: Circle 3/4, Pass thru and dosado
Unknown ???
(Pinewoods, 2000)
A1:Partner balance and box the gnat, right and left thru** (Not with neighbor)(????)
A2: Courtesy turn to long waves and balance, allemande right
B1: Opposite Swing, circle 3/4
B2: Ladies chain; long lines forward and back
(***This is how the dance is written in my notes. However, as far as I can tell, it
doesn't work in Beckett or Duple improper. Looking at it, I think it must be right
and left thru with new neighbor and allemande right outside of the minor set with prior
neighbor, but then the dance doesn't progress without at least one more change.
Making B2 a partner swing and ladies chain does work.)
Unknown Beckett
(Pinewoods, 2000)
A1: Circle 3/4 and allemande right once and a half below
A2: 1/2 hey by left (gents lead), opposite swing (end facing across)
B1: Long lines up and back, men dosado once and a half
B2: Find partner and swing; look to the left and circle 3/4
Unknown Duple Improper
(Pinewoods 2000, called by Beverly Smith)
A1: Balance and swing the person behind you
A2: Lines forward and back, actives swing and face down.
B1: Star left with original neighbor and circle left
B2: Weave the line (veer left, right, right, left) and dosado the next (perhaps as a
couple?)
Unknown Becket
(Pinewoods 2000)
A1: Circle 3/4 and neighbor swing
A2: CIrcle 3/4 and pass thru, trail buddy Allemande left
B1: with partner, allemande right 3/4; ladies pass left for full hey
B2: (should be finishing hey); Partner Balance and swing (???)
****Seems to have no progression.
Unknown Beckett
(Pinewoods 2000, called by Beverly Smith)
A1: Ladies turn right 1/2, turn opposite left 1 1/2, men turn right 1/2
A2: Partner balance and swing
B1: Slant left and right and left thru with a roll away; men dosado
B2: Ladies pull by right, left shoulder seesaw partner to place. Long lines go forward
and back
The next two I picked up in Hawai'i years ago at a dance I happened to stop at:
Unknown Duple Improper
A1: 1's balance and circle with #2 lady
A2: 1's balance and circle with #2 man
B1: Down the hall four in line, U-turn and come back
B2: Bend the line and forward and back, #2s swing in the center
***This is similar to Old Raccoon with the 3-preson circles, but the B part is entirely
different.
Unknown Duple Improper
A1: Circle 3/4 and pass thru; partner dosado on the side
A2: Partner gypsy to a swing
B1: Ladies lead hey for 4
B2: Partner allemande left and ladies chain across
The next two I think I may have written a long time ago because they're a bit unusual
musically and seem like something I would have come up with when I first started calling;
if someone recognizes them I'd appreciate the correction!
Unknown Beckett
(Possibly by Neal Schlein?)
A1: Star Left full, ladies turn back and partner swing
A2: Ladies allemande right 1 1/2 and opposite swing
B1: Men lead left hey
B2: Men allemande left 1 and 1/2, partner promenade 1/2 across and up/down to the next
Unknown Beckett
(Possibly by Neal Schlein?)
A1: on Right diagonal, right and left thru; straight across circle 3/4
A2: Allemande right neighbor full (x1 or x2) to short waves; balance right and left and
spin right
B1: Balance left and right and spin left to neighbor swing
B2: Men allemande left 1 and 1/2 to partner swing
Again, many thanks in advance!
Neal Schlein
21 Aug
21 Aug
12:10 a.m.
On Aug 20, 2013, at 2:47 PM, Neal Schlein asked about various
dances, including
Unknown
(from my notes: Called by Larry Edelman at Pinewoods 2000)
A1: Dosado below to an ocean wave (8) and balance (4). Turn 1/2
right and 1/2 left (4)
A2: Balance (4), 1/2 hey (8), Balance again (4)
B1: 1/2 hey again (8), Partner Swing (8)
B2: Right and left thru and ladies chain (16)
***Timing seems strange in A2
That's "Take All the Credit and None of the Blame" by Larry
Edelman and Nancy Donahue. The dance appears in Larry Jennings's
book _Give-and-Take_ with a slightly different description of
the actions after the balance in A1:
pull pass N by R hd; M pass by L sh
The balance a the start of B2 is then done just with
partner (right hand in right), not in a wave of four.
Most contra callers these days would describe the initial
do-si-do as being done by "neighbors" (a description that
applies for everyone) rather than with "the one below" (which
speaks preferentially to the #1 dancers and requires the #2
dancers to infer that they do-si-do with the one above them).
The strange-seeming timing in A2 is correct. If I have the
story right, Nancy came up with the idea of punctuating a hey
with balances according to this timing, so that the second
half of the hey crosses the middle of A2, but no figure
crosses the major phrase boundaries. Then Larry helped her
work out the rest of the dance and joked that if it went
over well, he'd take the credit, but if it was a dud, he'd
blame her.
--Jim
12:22 a.m.
On Aug 20, 2013, at 2:47 PM, Neal Schlein asked about
Unknown Duple Improper
(called by Larry Edelman, Pinewoods 2000)
A1: Balance and swing below
A2: Circle once around; Ladies chain across
B1: Ladies dosado; Partner swing
B2: Circle 3/4, Pass thru and dosado
That's "Small Potatoes", by Jim Kitch.
--Jim
1:59 a.m.
Cutting out the ones Jim already IDed:
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Neal Schlein <nschlein(a)gmail.com> wrote:
This first bunch all came from the 2000 Pinewoods American Dance Week and Caller's
Course, and were all written by other people:
Unknown ???
(Pinewoods, 2000)
A1:Partner balance and box the gnat, right and left thru** (Not with neighbor)(????)
A2: Courtesy turn to long waves and balance, allemande right
B1: Opposite Swing, circle 3/4
B2: Ladies chain; long lines forward and back
(***This is how the dance is written in my notes. However, as far as I can tell, it
doesn't work in Beckett or Duple improper. Looking at it, I think it must be right
and left thru with new neighbor and allemande right outside of the minor set with prior
neighbor, but then the dance doesn't progress without at least one more change.
Making B2 a partner swing and ladies chain does work.)
"No-See-Ums" by Beth Molaro.
Unknown Beckett
(Pinewoods, 2000)
A1: Circle 3/4 and allemande right once and a half below
A2: 1/2 hey by left (gents lead), opposite swing (end facing across)
B1: Long lines up and back, men dosado once and a half
B2: Find partner and swing; look to the left and circle 3/4
"Two Hearts in Reel Time" by Lisa Greenleaf. (Balance and swing in B2)
Unknown Duple Improper
(Pinewoods 2000, called by Beverly Smith)
A1: Balance and swing the person behind you
A2: Lines forward and back, actives swing and face down.
B1: Star left with original neighbor and circle left
B2: Weave the line (veer left, right, right, left) and dosado the next (perhaps as a
couple?)
This is a phrase-shifted version of "Weave the Line" by Kathy Anderson.
Unknown Becket
(Pinewoods 2000)
A1: Circle 3/4 and neighbor swing
A2: CIrcle 3/4 and pass thru, trail buddy Allemande left
B1: with partner, allemande right 3/4; ladies pass left for full hey
B2: (should be finishing hey); Partner Balance and swing (???)
****Seems to have no progression.
"Dave Found the Missing Coffee Cup" by Michael Fuerst. Starts with a shift
left.
Unknown Beckett
(Pinewoods 2000, called by Beverly Smith)
A1: Ladies turn right 1/2, turn opposite left 1 1/2, men turn right 1/2
A2: Partner balance and swing
B1: Slant left and right and left thru with a roll away; men dosado
B2: Ladies pull by right, left shoulder seesaw partner to place. Long lines go forward
and back
This appears to be a seriously garbled version of "Coal Country
Contra" by Ron Buchanan.
The next two I picked up in Hawai'i years ago at a dance I happened to stop at:
Unknown Duple Improper
A1: 1's balance and circle with #2 lady
A2: 1's balance and circle with #2 man
B1: Down the hall four in line, U-turn and come back
B2: Bend the line and forward and back, #2s swing in the center
***This is similar to Old Raccoon with the 3-preson circles, but the B part is entirely
different.
Might be a variant of "Christmas Hornpipe".
Unknown Duple Improper
A1: Circle 3/4 and pass thru; partner dosado on the side
A2: Partner gypsy to a swing
B1: Ladies lead hey for 4
B2: Partner allemande left and ladies chain across
The pass through is across the set. "Sherri's Valentine" by Chart Guthrie.
The next two I think I may have written a long time ago because they're a bit unusual
musically and seem like something I would have come up with when I first started calling;
if someone recognizes them I'd appreciate the correction!
Unknown Beckett
(Possibly by Neal Schlein?)
A1: Star Left full, ladies turn back and partner swing
A2: Ladies allemande right 1 1/2 and opposite swing
B1: Men lead left hey
B2: Men allemande left 1 and 1/2, partner promenade 1/2 across and up/down to the next
Unknown Beckett
(Possibly by Neal Schlein?)
A1: on Right diagonal, right and left thru; straight across circle 3/4
A2: Allemande right neighbor full (x1 or x2) to short waves; balance right and left and
spin right
B1: Balance left and right and spin left to neighbor swing
B2: Men allemande left 1 and 1/2 to partner swing
I can't help you with the last two.
-Chris Page
San Diego, CA
2:04 a.m.
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Chris Page <chriscpage(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Neal Schlein
<nschlein(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Unknown ???
> (Pinewoods, 2000)
> A1:Partner balance and box the gnat, right and left thru** (Not with neighbor)(????)
> A2: Courtesy turn to long waves and balance, allemande right
> B1: Opposite Swing, circle 3/4
> B2: Ladies chain; long lines forward and back
> (***This is how the dance is written in my notes. However, as far as I can tell, it
doesn't work in Beckett or Duple improper. Looking at it, I think it must be right
and left thru with new neighbor and allemande right outside of the minor set with prior
neighbor, but then the dance doesn't progress without at least one more change.
Making B2 a partner swing and ladies chain does work.)
"No-See-Ums" by Beth Molaro.
I typed this too fast. The original dance is:
A1 as above
A2 Balance wave, previous neighbor allemande right, current neighbor swing
B1 Circle left 3/4, swing partner
B2 as above
-Chris Page
San Diego
2:08 a.m.
On 13-08-20 02:47 PM, Neal Schlein wrote:
Unknown ???
(Pinewoods, 2000)
A1:Partner balance and box the gnat, right and left thru** (Not with neighbor)(????)
A2: Courtesy turn to long waves and balance, allemande right
B1: Opposite Swing, circle 3/4
B2: Ladies chain; long lines forward and back
(***This is how the dance is written in my notes. However, as far as I can tell, it
doesn't work in Beckett or Duple improper. Looking at it, I think it must be right
and left thru with new neighbor and allemande right outside of the minor set with prior
neighbor, but then the dance doesn't progress without at least one more change.
Making B2 a partner swing and ladies chain does work.)
I have that as "No See Ums" by Beth Molaro, duple improper.
(I don't know of a published reference though.)
I believe the RL thru is: right to your partner (same hand from the
balance+box), then left to your neighbour.
Unknown Beckett
(Pinewoods, 2000)
A1: Circle 3/4 and allemande right once and a half below
A2: 1/2 hey by left (gents lead), opposite swing (end facing across)
B1: Long lines up and back, men dosado once and a half
B2: Find partner and swing; look to the left and circle 3/4
"Two Hearts in Reel Time" by Lisa Greenleaf.
Appears in Give-and-Take on page 149.
Unknown Becket
(Pinewoods 2000)
A1: Circle 3/4 and neighbor swing
A2: CIrcle 3/4 and pass thru, trail buddy Allemande left
B1: with partner, allemande right 3/4; ladies pass left for full hey
B2: (should be finishing hey); Partner Balance and swing (???)
"Dave Found the Missing Coffee Cup" by Michael Fuerst.
Appears in Midwest Folklore on p48.
Also here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20060614182658/http://www.geocities.com/mjerryfu…
****Seems to have no progression.
You slide to the left to get new neighbors.
Unknown Beckett
(Pinewoods 2000, called by Beverly Smith)
A1: Ladies turn right 1/2, turn opposite left 1 1/2, men turn right 1/2
A2: Partner balance and swing
B1: Slant left and right and left thru with a roll away; men dosado
B2: Ladies pull by right, left shoulder seesaw partner to place. Long lines go forward
and back
Looks more or less like "Coal Country Contra" by Ron Buchanan.
See Give-and-Take page 98, and here:
http://www.quiteapair.us/calling/acdol/dance/acd_38.html
Unknown Duple Improper
A1: 1's balance and circle with #2 lady
A2: 1's balance and circle with #2 man
B1: Down the hall four in line, U-turn and come back
B2: Bend the line and forward and back, #2s swing in the center
***This is similar to Old Raccoon with the 3-preson circles, but the B part is entirely
different.
"Christmas Hornpipe", a variant of the traditional dance of that name by
Ted Sanella and Tony Saletan. (Although they have the #1s swing at the end.)
Appears in "Swing the Next", page 78.
-Michael
2:26 a.m.
On Aug 20, 2013, at 2:47 PM, Neal Schlein asked about:
Unknown ???
(Pinewoods, 2000)
A1:Partner balance and box the gnat, right and left thru** (Not with
neighbor)(????)
A2: Courtesy turn to long waves and balance, allemande right
B1: Opposite Swing, circle 3/4
B2: Ladies chain; long lines forward and back
(***This is how the dance is written in my notes. However, as far
as I can tell, it doesn't work in Beckett or Duple improper.
Looking at it, I think it must be right and left thru with new
neighbor and allemande right outside of the minor set with prior
neighbor, but then the dance doesn't progress without at least one
more change. Making B2 a partner swing and ladies chain does work.)
Chris Page correctly identified the dance as "No See Ums" by
Beth Molaro, but Neal's version is somewhat garbled. I see that
Chris Page and Michael Dyck have both taken a shot at ungarbling it.
Here's mine.
First, here's a video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JibA8BLUSzk
(Does anyone know of a longer video or a published description of the
dance?)
The dance improper and starts with partners doing a balance and
box-the-gnat across the set. This leaves them facing partner with
right hands joined and side-by-side with neighbors, exactly where
they need to be to start a Right And Left Through across the set.
After the right and left through, they do a move that's a modified
version of "roll away with a half sashay", women ending to the left
of their neighbors, but facing out of the set and retaining a
left-hand-in-left hold with their neighbors (the same hands they
were holding during the courtesy turn in the right and left through).
All this fits into the A1.
The middle part of the dance is then
A2. Balance in long waves (W facing out, M facing in, all holding
L hand with current N and R hand with previous N) (4)
Almd R prev N (4-6)
Swing current N (6-8)
B1. Cir L 3/4
Swing partner
At the end of B2, the #1 couple will be below the #2 couple, and in
the next round of the dance, the dancers will be in position to dance
the Right and Left Through courtesy turning new neighbors.
--Jim
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