16 Sep
2011
16 Sep
'11
12:51 p.m.
Wow!
The level of response is amazing! Guess I'll jump on the bandwagon,
too--done a fair amount of content management setup from scratch using perl
and javascript to cobble together tools for non-techies to use for site
maintenance, so there might be times when I could pass along easily-bolted
on stuff other could use or just help with problem-solving. And I'm hoping
there are some experts with various well-developed systems like Drupal and
Joomla that have tips to share as well...
(Bizarre aside: anyone remember Second Life? Wouldn't it be cool if you
could program avatars to do dance moves and have a virtual contra dance, or
test dance sequences? Actually, forget that! It's totally against what I
value about real dancing! )
Chip Hedler
16 Sep
16 Sep
2:41 p.m.
New subject: contra dance webmasters unite!
I'll jump on this wagon, too!
Also, the dancing avatar idea is not that far out. I've thought - and even begun work
a few times - on a way to notate dances so that I could play them as programs for X's
and O's on a screen to test run dances that I've found or written. I guess that an
avatar is just a little more graphic design for an X or an O! I might also store the dance
notations in a DB and print them on cards (or iphones) afte translation into English (or
French or Japanese)
Chip Hedler remarked on 9/16/2011 12:51 PM:
Wow!
The level of response is amazing! Guess I'll jump on the bandwagon,
too--done a fair amount of content management setup from scratch using perl
and javascript to cobble together tools for non-techies to use for site
maintenance, so there might be times when I could pass along easily-bolted
on stuff other could use or just help with problem-solving. And I'm hoping
there are some experts with various well-developed systems like Drupal and
Joomla that have tips to share as well...
(Bizarre aside: anyone remember Second Life? Wouldn't it be cool if you
could program avatars to do dance moves and have a virtual contra dance, or
test dance sequences? Actually, forget that! It's totally against what I
value about real dancing! )
Chip Hedler
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4:08 p.m.
New subject: contra dance webmasters unite!
Chip - I've been using *Joomla *for our site here in St Louis (
http://childgrove.org) for about a year. For myself, it's the perfect blend
of front-end ease-of-use for content updaters and back-end flexibility for
the designer-techie who wants to make the site jump through a few hoops. I
love it. I can do things I always needed to hire a programmer to do before -
like make online registration forms that send you an email with the
registration info AND send the registrant on to PayPal (thank you,
Chronoforms!).
However, since it looks as if, in the big Content Management Systems
shakeout, there are three popular survivors, *WordPress, Joomla,* and *
Drupal*, I've done some investigation into the other two as well.
If the folks making the web site don't have a bunch of tech experience as a
web designer or programmer, I'd probably recommend *WordPress*. It's a lot
easier for non-techies to set up, and I've seen some spiffy sites done with
it. On the other hand, I also hear it's a lot less flexible for web
designer/programmers. In other words, if you want to do what IT wants you to
do, it's GREAT, but if you want to do something slightly different, you may
be out of luck. That makes sense, though. I figure you get extreme
ease-of-use OR extreme flexibility, but not both. Don't know if you could do
an online registration form with it, for example. Anyone have experience
with this?
I can't imagine a contra dance group ever needing something like *Drupal*,
which (I hear) falls squarely in the techie (extreme flexibility) camp. But
hey, if you've got someone who knows it, rumor has it that it can do amazing
things.
Uh-oh, just realized that we're not already on the contradance web-stuff
discussion list. My apologies.
So, in penance, and to keep the discussion about dance, I will include here
a link to my cute little double grand square Flash
movies<http://www.westendweb.com/doublegrandsquare/>
.
M
E
8:14 p.m.
New subject: contra dance webmasters unite!
Count me in on the web list, too. Martha, I've been pretty happy with Joomla, too.
Beth
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Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 4:08 PM
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Subject: Re: [Callers] contra dance webmasters unite!
Chip - I've been using *Joomla *for our site here in St Louis (
http://childgrove.org) for about a year. For myself, it's the perfect blend of
front-end ease-of-use for content updaters and back-end flexibility for the
designer-techie who wants to make the site jump through a few hoops. I love it. I can do
things I always needed to hire a programmer to do before - like make online registration
forms that send you an email with the registration info AND send the registrant on to
PayPal (thank you, Chronoforms!).
However, since it looks as if, in the big Content Management Systems shakeout, there are
three popular survivors, *WordPress, Joomla,* and * Drupal*, I've done some
investigation into the other two as well.
If the folks making the web site don't have a bunch of tech experience as a web
designer or programmer, I'd probably recommend *WordPress*. It's a lot easier for
non-techies to set up, and I've seen some spiffy sites done with it. On the other
hand, I also hear it's a lot less flexible for web designer/programmers. In other
words, if you want to do what IT wants you to do, it's GREAT, but if you want to do
something slightly different, you may be out of luck. That makes sense, though. I figure
you get extreme ease-of-use OR extreme flexibility, but not both. Don't know if you
could do an online registration form with it, for example. Anyone have experience with
this?
I can't imagine a contra dance group ever needing something like *Drupal*, which (I
hear) falls squarely in the techie (extreme flexibility) camp. But hey, if you've got
someone who knows it, rumor has it that it can do amazing things.
Uh-oh, just realized that we're not already on the contradance web-stuff discussion
list. My apologies.
So, in penance, and to keep the discussion about dance, I will include here a link to my
cute little double grand square Flash
movies<http://www.westendweb.com/doublegrandsquare/>
.
M
E
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19 Sep
19 Sep
4:13 p.m.
New subject: Second Life
On Sep 16, 2011, at 12:51 PM, Chip Hedler wrote:
(Bizarre aside: anyone remember Second Life?
Wouldn't it be cool if you
could program avatars to do dance moves and have a virtual contra dance, or
test dance sequences? Actually, forget that! It's totally against what I
value about real dancing! )
I sent the following e-mail to the MWSD caller's list on April 1, 2010...
Begin forwarded message:
From: Clark Baker <cmbaker(a)tiac.net>
Date: April 1, 2010 12:37:41 AM EDT
To: sd-callers(a)all8.com
Subject: Square Dancing in Second Life
With the box office success of Avatar, you may be interested in my experiences taking
square dancing to Second Life. In this virtual world, users (residents) can interact with
each other through avatars. Residents can explore, meet other residents, socialize,
participate in individual and group activities, and create and trade virtual property and
services with one another, or travel throughout the world.
Second Life has an internal currency, the Linden dollar (L$). L$ can be used to buy,
sell, rent or trade land or goods and services with other users. L$ can be purchased
using US Dollars and other currencies on the LindeX exchange provided by Linden Lab,
independent brokers or other resident users.
I put two and two together and created a square dance hall and offer square dance
lessons. People pay in L$ but I have made enough to make more teaching dancing in Second
Life than at some dances in the real world! I know that some of you are going to say that
teaching square dancing in virtual reality doesn't count, and that the computer users
should meet and interact with real people. However, I believe that they are square
dancing, and any kind of square dancing is better than nothing.
Let us know what you think.
--
Clark Baker, Belmont, MA
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