Hi Tony, I've never heard the term "double gyp", but I think I know which move you mean... Google... oh! Try Zesty Contras... Wow! Yes, Larry defines it just as I thought So not just ECD, contra as well. I call that move Interlocking Gypsies. I'll try to think of a different term, if it even needs one. Yes, you are quite right "ones split the twos" is a much better way of saying it, of course, thanks. Strange how the brain works (or doesn't!); if it had been a Square Dance I would have used Split without thinking, I tried it with "#1s Arch" to get a weaving flow and the dancers didn't like that. I tried it with "#2s Arch", but we had some very tall people trying to get under short people's arches, so they didn't like that either. So I went for "#1s Split #2s and they loved it. Isn't the folk process wonderful? 😊 Happy dancing, John John Sweeney, Dancer, England john(a)modernjive.com 01233 625 362 & 07802 940 574 http://www.modernjive.com for Modern Jive Events & DVDs http://www.contrafusion.co.uk for Dancing in Kent -----Original Message----- From: Tony Parkes [mailto:tony@hands4.com] Sent: 06 May 2017 16:58 To: John Sweeney <john(a)modernjive.com>om>; callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> Subject: RE: [Callers] Two New Dances John, two suggestions: 1. I'd find a term other than "double gypsy." As I understand it, a "double gyp" in ECD involves two pairs of corners who each do a gypsy, the pairs taking it in turns to approach the middle. 2. If the ones stay together, I wouldn't call it a "pass through," which has an accepted definition; I'd say "ones split the twos." Note: In other dances where a "balance the ring" precedes this kind of action, the author (sometimes me) often specifies that the twos arch and the ones duck to the next. I like doing it that way, partly for the greater connection, partly because it uses up the music better than a simple "drop hands and walk through." Cheers, Tony Tony Parkes Billerica, Mass. www.hands4.com New book! Square Dance Calling: An Old Art for a New Century (to be published Summer 2017) -----Original Message----- From: Callers [mailto:callers-bounces@lists.sharedweight.net] On Behalf Of John Sweeney via Callers Sent: Saturday, May 6, 2017 8:18 AM To: callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net Subject: [Callers] Two New Dances Hi All, These two proved popular at Eastbourne International Folk Festival. I would be interested in any comments on them, and on whether the Double Gypsy I have used is common. Rogue's March has the same first half as Devil's Dream, but without the awkward hand change at the end of A2. The second half is different and, I believe, flows more smoothly, and includes a Swing. Rogue's March (by John Sweeney) Contra; Improper A1: #1s Face Down in the Middle; #2s Face Up on the Outside: Dance Forwards, Turn Alone, Dance Back, Neighbour Handy Hand Allemande 1/2 - #2s now in the Middle A2: Dance Forwards, Turn Alone, Dance Back, Neighbour Handy Hand Allemande 1/4 - #2s let go and face back in B1: Double Gypsy: #1s Gypsy wide and separate into Neighbour Gypsy Meltdown B2: Long Lines Go Forward & Back - Men Rolling the Ladies from Right to Left on the way back Balance the Ring; Pass Through - #1s Down the Middle - check out your New Neighbours Teaching Notes: In A1 and A2 every dancer starts off heading the same direction each time. In B1 the #1s start a Right Shoulder Gypsy with each other but as soon as they can see their Neighbour they change it into a Gypsy with the Neighbour then melt down into a Neighbour Swing. #1 Lady needs to go wide around #1 Man and avoid the temptation to weave into a Left Shoulder Gypsy with her Neighbour. The Pass Through is unusual in that the #1s stay together and go between the #2s. This sets everyone up beside their New Neighbour and ready to start A1 again. Happy dancing, John