30 May
2019
30 May
'19
12:36 a.m.
I have found two identical dances. First I collected Coconut Cream Puff by
Nils Fredland, then I lost the card, and in the process of looking for it
online, discovered Coconut Cream Pie by Lynn Ackerson. It is the same dance:
4 Facing 4
A1 Lines of 4 go forward and back
middles star R once
A2 Partner allemande L 1 1/2
new middles star R once
B1 Partner balance & swing
B2 All 8 circle L 1/2 (4 places)
Balance ring, partner California twirl
So who really wrote it? Does anyone know why there are two names and two
choreographers attributed?
30 May
30 May
12:41 a.m.
My understanding is that Lynn adapted Ron Beeson's dance, Apple Pie Quadrille, by
changing B2 into a can't-fail circle progression from a "Devil's
Backbone" progression.
I'm going to guess that Nils called it at a dance and somebody misattributed the dance
to him and got the name wrong.
Here's the notation Ridge Kennedy posted for Apple Pie Quadrille on the
trad-dance-callers list:
APPLE PIE QUADRILLE
Ron Beeson (via Ridge Kennedy)
Four Facing Four
Called by Kathy Anderson at Buffalo gap 2002
Ask for lively music that's a bit silly to suit the dance.
A-1 Lines of Four, Forward and Back
(Reminder - this is original direction!) (8)
Center Four (dancers in the middle of each line of four):
Star Right Once Around (8)
A-2 Partners Allemande Left Once and a Half (8)
Ends (Original ends of each line of four, now Center Four)
Star Right Once Around (8)
B-1 Partners balance and swing (16)
B-2 "End Man" (Man on left end of line):Lead back over left shoulder to
invert line. Lead around the *other* end of the other line and all
face original direction and a new line of four. (16)
Notes: Tricky Part: Leading the line back and around is counter-intuitive.
End man starts turning in opposite direction that his line is progressing.
Original dance:
A-1 Lines forward and back (8) All do sa do opposite dancer (8)
A-2 Centre four star right (8) All allemande left with partner x 3/2 (8)
B-1 New centre four star right (8) All swing partners (8)
B-2 Circle left all eight once round (16)
C-1 The left hand man casts left taking his line around the other line
to face the next line (16)
-- Alan
On 5/29/2019 5:36 PM, Liz Burkhart via Callers wrote:
I have found two identical dances. First I collected Coconut Cream Puff by Nils Fredland,
then I lost the card, and in the process of looking for it online, discovered Coconut
Cream Pie by Lynn Ackerson. It is the same dance:
4 Facing 4
A1 Lines of 4 go forward and back
middles star R once
A2 Partner allemande L 1 1/2
new middles star R once
B1 Partner balance & swing
B2 All 8 circle L 1/2 (4 places)
Balance ring, partner California twirl
So who really wrote it? Does anyone know why there are two names and two choreographers
attributed?
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10 Jun
10 Jun
12:58 a.m.
I was aware of Lynn's dance but not Ron's when I came up with the
following. As a happy coincidence it's a sort of hybrid of the two in 32
bars.
I originally envisioned the last part of the B2 as an outward-facing CCW
circle 1/2 (i.e.: "circle left" to those in the circle) - that's the path
the individual lines/4 end up taking on the floor. As the lines/4 approach
worked, I never ended up trying an actual outward circle formation (concern
re: possible dancer shoulders/elbows strain).
-Don
BOSTON CREAM PIE – 4 FACE 4 – DON VEINO 20161005
A1
LLF&B
Center 4 Star Right 1x
A2
Partner Allemande Left 1+1/2x
(new) Center 4 Star Right 1x
B1
Partner Balance & Swing
B2
Current Ring/8 Balance, California Twirl (to facing prior Neighbors)
[Take hands in line/4 with Trail Buddies]
Left End Gent/Lark Tow Your Line (in an arc, over left shoulder) to face
new Line/4
http://veino.com/blog/?p=1401
On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 8:41 PM Winston, Alan P. via Callers <
callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
My understanding is that Lynn adapted Ron Beeson's
dance, Apple Pie
Quadrille, by changing B2 into a can't-fail circle progression from a
"Devil's Backbone" progression.
I'm going to guess that Nils called it at a dance and somebody
misattributed the dance to him and got the name wrong.
Here's the notation Ridge Kennedy posted for Apple Pie Quadrille on the
trad-dance-callers list:
APPLE PIE QUADRILLE
Ron Beeson (via Ridge Kennedy)
Four Facing Four
Called by Kathy Anderson at Buffalo gap 2002
Ask for lively music that's a bit silly to suit the dance.
A-1 Lines of Four, Forward and Back
(Reminder - this is original direction!) (8)
Center Four (dancers in the middle of each line of four):
Star Right Once Around (8)
A-2 Partners Allemande Left Once and a Half (8)
Ends (Original ends of each line of four, now Center Four)
Star Right Once Around (8)
B-1 Partners balance and swing (16)
B-2 "End Man" (Man on left end of line):Lead back over left shoulder to
invert line. Lead around the *other* end of the other line and all
face original direction and a new line of four. (16)
Notes: Tricky Part: Leading the line back and around is counter-intuitive.
End man starts turning in opposite direction that his line is progressing.
Original dance:
A-1 Lines forward and back (8) All do sa do opposite dancer (8)
A-2 Centre four star right (8) All allemande left with partner x
3/2 (8)
B-1 New centre four star right (8) All swing partners (8)
B-2 Circle left all eight once round (16)
C-1 The left hand man casts left taking his line around the other line
to face the next line (16)
-- Alan
On 5/29/2019 5:36 PM, Liz Burkhart via Callers wrote:
I have found two identical dances. First I collected Coconut Cream Puff by
Nils Fredland, then I lost the card, and in the process of looking for it
online, discovered Coconut Cream Pie by Lynn Ackerson. It is the same dance:
4 Facing 4
A1 Lines of 4 go forward and back
middles star R once
A2 Partner allemande L 1 1/2
new middles star R once
B1 Partner balance & swing
B2 All 8 circle L 1/2 (4 places)
Balance ring, partner California twirl
So who really wrote it? Does anyone know why there are two names and two
choreographers attributed?
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