17 Mar
2012
17 Mar
'12
2:37 p.m.
Hi Tavi
Try this one
Shuttlecock 32b American/Irish/Scot Reels
Lw Duple Beckett Double Progression J Turner
NB Your shadow is on the Gents L & the Ladies R in your own line or, if
you're at the ends of the set, across the set.
A1. Long lines fwd & back,
In 4s star R.
A2. On L diagonal Ladies chain,
On the same diagonal hey ½ way (Ladies pass R Sh to start the hey).
End the hey facing across to Shadow with Ladies on Gents R.
B1. Ladies straight across (slightly diagonally R) cross over giving R
& Shadow gipsy L ¾ into, Ptnr gipsy R sh & -
B2. Swing Ptnr (meltdown),
In 4s circle L ½ way & all slide L (incl Neutrals) to face a new couple.
NB The swing in B2 must end by the end of bar 5 to allow sufficient time for
the circle L & slide L.
Neutrals, created by the gipsy R in B1, swing Ptnr at the end of the set,
wait for Active dancers to complete their circle L ½ way in B2,
then slide L {lady on Gents R} around the end of the set to face across to
the new Nbrs.
For a diagrammatic notation of the dance
http://www.users.waitrose.com/~jhmturner/images/ShuttlecockDiag.jpg
© JT 1997. Revised May 99 & April 02.
http://www.users.waitrose.com/~jhmturner/Dance%20Compositions.htm
John Turner
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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 00:17:17 -0400
From: tavi merrill <melodiouswoodchuck(a)gmail.com
To: callers(a)sharedweight.net
Subject: [Callers] ISO: a few good diagonals...
does anybody have favorite intermediate to eXpert-level diagonal dances
they'd be compelled to share?
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1. Re: Re Allemande Hold (was Analysis of Stars) (Bob Green)
2. Re: First draft of MO Dances II (Greg McKenzie)
3. ISO: a few good diagonals... (tavi merrill)
4. Re: ISO: a few good diagonals... (Linda Leslie)
5. Re: ISO: a few good diagonals... (Bob Green)
6. Re: ISO: a few good diagonals... (Bob Green)
7. Re: Re Allemande Hold (was Analysis of Stars) (Michael Fuerst)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 23:04:59 -0500
From: Bob Green <bobgreen(a)swbell.net
To: "Caller's discussion list" <callers(a)sharedweight.net Subject: Re: [Callers] Re Allemande Hold (was
Analysis of Stars)
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The straight wrist is , of course, not the whole story...it also requires
keeping your hand out away from your body. You can keep your wrist perfetly
straight. and tweak the crap out of the other dancer by pulling in too far.
I believe this is one point where it is important to clarify what "giving
weight" is all about.
Bob
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:48 PM, Michael Fuerst
<mjerryfuerst(a)yahoo.com>wrote;wrote:
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Bob,
My experience was similar. Being new to California I always assumed it was
invented here. It is *such *a California kind of thing. It was almost two
years before I learned that they were dancing contras, almost as well, in
the Boston area.
- Greg
*************
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Bob Green <bobgreen(a)swbell.net
To: callers(a)sharedweight.net
Subject: [Callers] ISO: a few good diagonals...
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So, based on a few favorite dances with distinctive diagonal moves, i
cooked up the idea for a one-hour festival slot themed around
diagonals. Currently, the lineup is Gene Hubert's "Diagonal Dillema", Rick
Mohr's "Ellen's Yarns", Carol Ormand's "Life, the Universe,
and
Everything", and Russel Owen's "Are You Most Done Yet". They're
great
dances, but suddenly i can't help wishing i had a broader palette of
distinctive diagonal options in order to craft a truly excellent program
with a lot of contrast between dances. Aside from Rick Mohr's "Dr. Bluhm's
Delight", Gene Hubert's "Reunion", and Penn Fix's "North
Cascades", which
i'm aware of....
does anybody have favorite intermediate to eXpert-level diagonal dances
they'd be compelled to share?
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 01:00:36 -0400
From: Linda Leslie <laleslierjg(a)comcast.net
To: Caller's discussion list <callers(a)sharedweight.net Subject: Re: [Callers] ISO: a few good
diagonals...
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A few that come to mind without too much research are: 1) Alabama
Charlie & 2) Hello Dolly (both by Don Flaherty); Tenth Year in
Tommerup (Linda Leslie); Dancing with Amy (Bill Olson); A Slice of
Pinewoods (Bob Isaacs); Another Slice of Pinewoods (Bob Isaacs & Chris
Weiler); and depending *how* much of a diagonal: Eleanor's Reel (Bill
Olson).
Let me know if you wish to have the choreographies of any of the above.
Linda Leslie
On Mar 14, 2012, at 12:17 AM, tavi merrill wrote:
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diagonals...
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I'll be brash and throw in one of my own dances...a diagonal slide
left...written for my 10th anniversary.
A Perfect Tin:
http://dancevideos.childgrove.org/contra/mo-dances-vol-2/349-a-perfect-tin.h
tml
Enjoy!
Bob
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*Another Slice of Pinewoods* is really fun!
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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 23:55:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: Michael Fuerst <mjerryfuerst(a)yahoo.com
To: Caller's discussion list <callers(a)sharedweight.net Subject: Re: [Callers] Re Allemande Hold (was
Analysis of Stars)
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On giving weight, at least for allemandes: ? ?Think of your arm as
spring--as it is extended, you pull, as it is compressed, you push--with the
goal of maintaining comfortable tension with the other person
Michael Fuerst ? ? ?802 N Broadway ? ? ?Urbana IL 61801?????? 217-239-5844
--- On Tue, 3/13/12, Bob Green <bobgreen(a)swbell.net
Subject: Re: [Callers] Re Allemande Hold (was Analysis of Stars)
To: "Caller's discussion list" <callers(a)sharedweight.net Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2012, 11:04 PM
The straight wrist is , of course, not the whole story...it also requires
keeping your hand out away from your body. You can keep your wrist perfetly
straight. and tweak the crap out of the other dancer by pulling in too far.
I believe this is one point where it is important to clarify what "giving
weight" is all about.
Bob
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:48 PM, Michael Fuerst
<mjerryfuerst(a)yahoo.com>wrote;wrote:
> Dancers who understand can wear badges that way "I allemande with a
> straight wrist"In fact, dance organizers can hand out badges or? labels
> with this to arriving dancers.
> Michael Fuerst? ? ? 802 N Broadway? ? ?
Urbana IL 61801? ? ???217-239-5844
> --- On Tue, 3/13/12, Andrea Nettleton
<twirly-girl(a)bellsouth.net > From: Andrea Nettleton
<twirly-girl(a)bellsouth.net > Subject: Re:
[Callers] Re Allemande Hold (was Analysis of Stars)
> To: "Caller's discussion list" <callers(a)sharedweight.net > Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2012, 9:38 PM
> I don't know if seasoned dancers who
engage in a bad habit are able to
> hear that they are in error.? In a new dancer workshop, I show and tell
> that the two dancers in an allemande are like two panes in a revolving
door
> Sent from my iPhone
> On Mar 13, 2012, at 8:42 PM, Chris Page
<chriscpage(a)gmail.com > > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:17 PM,
Perry Shafran <pshaf(a)yahoo.com
Dancers who understand can wear badges that way
"I allemande with a
straight wrist"In fact, dance organizers can hand out badges or labels
with this to arriving dancers.
Michael Fuerst 802 N Broadway Urbana IL 61801 217-239-5844
--- On Tue, 3/13/12, Andrea Nettleton <twirly-girl(a)bellsouth.net
Subject: Re: [Callers] Re Allemande Hold (was Analysis of Stars)
To: "Caller's discussion list" <callers(a)sharedweight.net Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2012, 9:38 PM
I don't know if seasoned dancers who engage in a bad habit are able to
hear that they are in error. In a new dancer workshop, I show and tell
that the two dancers in an allemande are like two panes in a revolving
door
wrote:
From: Andrea Nettleton <twirly-girl(a)bellsouth.net and their joined hands are like the post they turn
around. Their arms
should be in a flat open W shape along the plane of the glass. They
should
maintain the same relative position to one another.
If they do so, and
keep their wrists flat, I say, they are well positioned to help one
another
around with the firm presence of their bodies flowing
into their arms. I
demonstrate that when one person tries to speed up by curling their wrist
and scooting faster than their complement, they not only break down all
possibility of teamwork, but can do damage. Here I make exaggerated
contortions with my demo partner. The point is generally well taken. I
don't know if one could get away with such a teaching point during the
evening,
unless you were doing a dance with
an allemande 2X round and could justify trying to keep everyone safe
while ensuring they had the tools to get all the way round twice? I don't
know. I think uncurling the curled fists that people impose on us while
dancing might be the best we can do for those with a deeply ingrained
habit.
Andrea
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 13, 2012, at 8:42 PM, Chris Page <chriscpage(a)gmail.com
with
wrote:
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Perry Shafran
<pshaf(a)yahoo.com
to not bend their
wrists when they allemande? The wrist is supposed to be
straight, not bent, as bending can cause pain to the other person's wrist
(generally mine). Nowadays when I find a person allemande with a bent
wrist I go ahead and keep mine straight and sacrifice a good allemande wrote:
> Speaking
of allemandes - is there ANY way to teach experienced dancers weight for protecting my arm and wrist.
------------------------------
Message: 2
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 21:12:45 -0700
From: Greg McKenzie <grekenzie(a)gmail.com
I wish I knew. I was teaching a pre-dance workshop at another place
and some of the "helpful" experienced dancers in the session were
steadfastly insisting that the bent wrist alternative was the only
safe one. Is there any way to deal with that without getting into an
noisy argument while the new dancers are trying to sort this stuff
out?
-Chris Page
San Diego
p.s. I'm not bothered by the hidden thumbs. The allemandes work fine
either way. The hidden thumbs just means the person's been hurt in the
past and is protecting themselves.
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It is funny how these things go, Greg. My wife was a
professional
musician,
and played violin in the Boston area for 25 years. She
moved to St. Louis
and eventually discovered the fabulous contra dance community here, and
this vibrant dance form. It wasn't long before she was shocked to learn
that they even did this in Boston on occasion.
[?]
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 00:17:17 -0400
From: tavi merrill <melodiouswoodchuck(a)gmail.com So, based on a few favorite dances with distinctive
diagonal moves, i
cooked up the idea for a one-hour festival slot themed around
diagonals. Currently, the lineup is Gene Hubert's "Diagonal
Dillema", Rick
Mohr's "Ellen's Yarns", Carol Ormand's "Life, the Universe,
and
Everything", and Russel Owen's "Are You Most Done Yet". They're
great
dances, but suddenly i can't help wishing i had a broader palette of
distinctive diagonal options in order to craft a truly excellent
program
with a lot of contrast between dances. Aside from Rick Mohr's "Dr.
Bluhm's
Delight", Gene Hubert's "Reunion", and Penn Fix's "North
Cascades",
which
i'm aware of....
does anybody have favorite intermediate to eXpert-level diagonal
dances
they'd be compelled to share?
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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 00:02:55 -0500
From: Bob Green <bobgreen(a)swbell.net wrote:
So, based on a few favorite dances with distinctive
diagonal moves, i
cooked up the idea for a one-hour festival slot themed around
diagonals. Currently, the lineup is Gene Hubert's "Diagonal Dillema", Rick
Mohr's "Ellen's Yarns", Carol Ormand's "Life, the Universe,
and
Everything", and Russel Owen's "Are You Most Done Yet". They're
great
dances, but suddenly i can't help wishing i had a broader palette of
distinctive diagonal options in order to craft a truly excellent program
with a lot of contrast between dances. Aside from Rick Mohr's "Dr. Bluhm's
Delight", Gene Hubert's "Reunion", and Penn Fix's "North
Cascades", which
i'm aware of....
does anybody have favorite intermediate to eXpert-level diagonal dances
they'd be compelled to share?
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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 00:04:06 -0500
From: Bob Green <bobgreen(a)swbell.net A few that come to mind without too much research are:
1) Alabama Charlie
& 2) Hello Dolly (both by Don Flaherty); Tenth Year in Tommerup (Linda
Leslie); Dancing with Amy (Bill Olson); A Slice of Pinewoods (Bob
Isaacs);
Another Slice of Pinewoods (Bob Isaacs & Chris
Weiler); and depending
*how*
much of a diagonal: Eleanor's Reel (Bill Olson).
Let me know if you wish to have the choreographies of any of the above.
Linda Leslie
On Mar 14, 2012, at 12:17 AM, tavi merrill wrote:
So, based on a few favorite dances with distinctive diagonal moves, i
> cooked up the idea for a one-hour festival slot themed around
> diagonals. Currently, the lineup is Gene Hubert's "Diagonal Dillema",
Rick
> Mohr's "Ellen's Yarns", Carol
Ormand's "Life, the Universe, and
> Everything", and Russel Owen's "Are You Most Done Yet".
They're great
> dances, but suddenly i can't help wishing i had a broader palette of
> distinctive diagonal options in order to craft a truly excellent program
> with a lot of contrast between dances. Aside from Rick Mohr's "Dr.
Bluhm's
> Delight", Gene Hubert's
"Reunion", and Penn Fix's "North Cascades", which
> i'm aware of....
> does anybody have favorite intermediate to
eXpert-level diagonal dances
> they'd be compelled to share?
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From: Bob Green <bobgreen(a)swbell.net wrote:
and their joined hands are like the post they turn
around.? Their arms
should be in a flat open W shape along the plane of the glass.? They
should
maintain the same relative position to one another.?
If they do so, and
keep their wrists flat, I say, they are well positioned to help one
another
around with the firm presence of their bodies flowing
into their arms.? I
demonstrate that when one person tries to speed up by curling their wrist
and scooting faster than their complement, they not only break down all
possibility of teamwork, but can do damage.? Here I make exaggerated
contortions with my demo partner.? The point is generally well taken.? I
don't know if one could get away with such a teaching point during the
evening,
? unless you were doing a dance with
???an allemande 2X round and could justify trying to keep everyone safe
while ensuring they had the tools to get all the way round twice?? I don't
know.? I think uncurling the curled fists that people impose on us while
dancing might be the best we can do for those with a deeply ingrained
habit.
> Andrea
wrote:
wrote:
> >>
Speaking of allemandes - is there ANY way to teach experienced dancers
> to not bend their wrists when they allemande?? The wrist is supposed to be
> straight, not bent, as bending can cause pain to the other person's wrist
> (generally mine).? Nowadays when I find a person allemande with a bent
> wrist I go ahead and keep mine straight and sacrifice a good allemande
with
weight for protecting my arm and wrist.
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I wish I knew. I was teaching a pre-dance workshop at another place
and some of the "helpful" experienced dancers in the session were
steadfastly insisting that the bent wrist alternative was the only
safe one. Is there any way to deal with that without getting into an
noisy argument while the new dancers are trying to sort this stuff
out?
-Chris Page
San Diego
p.s. I'm not bothered by the hidden thumbs. The allemandes work fine
either way. The hidden thumbs just means the person's been hurt in the
past and is protecting themselves.
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