My computer burped as I was trying to send this so I'm not sure whether it went out. My apologies if it arrives twice. KK On 1/12/2013 9:38 AM, John Sweeney wrote: I've had a few pen-written cards go all smeary from having been tucked into a pocket or into the neckline of my dress. Ball-point is much less likely to run than other ink pens, I've learned. Even with ball-point, though, a sweated-on card will tend to get a bit pruny after a while. But it's like a cookbook. The recipes you use all the time will develop a patina of love. All those food smears and wrinkles and fingerprints will let you know as you leaf through the book which ones are the favorites. Pencil would never survive continued use, IMO. Even the process of moving the cards around would tend to lighten it to the point of illegibility. I have a few side notes I've written in pencil on my cards and they've mostly faded away. I'm still wrestling with switching over to a computer database for my dances. I do think that Caller's Companion is exceptional for contras now that I've had a chance to mess with the demo version for a bit, but it lacks the vocabulary I need for ECD. Will L., I've been keeping some notes about limitations I've run into. Interested in discussing those? Colin, I think I'd like to try your system again for a bit and see if it meets my hybrid needs better. Kalia