Not to mention Lambda variant is already on US soil, and Lambda is vaccine-resistant. There will come a time it will feel both physically and psychologically safe to dance again. But it will not be soon. Seth Tepfer Director of Software Engineering, Oxford College Schedule an appointment: oxford.emory.edu/SethBooking <https://outlook.office365.com/owa/calendar/SethTepfer@mscloud.emory.net/bookings/> 770-784-8487 seth.tepfer(a)emory.edu Use AskIT for fastest response: Oxford.emory.edu/AskIT <https://app.oxford.emory.edu/WebApps/OCIT/forms/AskIT/index.cfm> <https://app.oxford.emory.edu/WebApps/OCIT/forms/AskIT/index.cfm> Pronouns: he, him, his <https://app.oxford.emory.edu/WebApps/Directories/index.cfm?fuseaction=v.searchresults&searchname=tepfer> ------------------------------ *From:* Winston, Alan P. via Contra Callers < contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net&gt; *Sent:* Thursday, August 26, 2021 4:51 PM *To:* contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net < contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net&gt;gt;; Susan English &lt;senglish(a)umich.edu&gt; *Subject:* [External] [Callers] Re: Modified Wedding Dance Susan -- I would cancel. Delta is projected to keep getting worse through October/November so September will still be on the upward slope. Even with your restrictions and outdoors, an unknowing asymptotic spreader could infect many people, even vaccinated people. The six feet social distance idea was based on the previous SARS and being outdoors is not perfect protection, nor is being vaccinated. I'd feel okay holding an outdoors dance if it's all vaccinated and all masked (not because there's zero risk of spreading but because it's low risk and because vaccination does seem to be very effective against severe enough cases to be hospitalized or die, although there's certainly the cchance that somebody could catch it at the wedding and then give it unknowingly to vulnerable people who didn't even attend. You could make it clear that there's this risk and encourage people to quarantine after until they get a negative test result, but you can't make it happen.) If you're mixing vaccinated and unvaccinated people (people who can't (children under 12) or people who won't) - well, I'd find the risk unacceptably high absent onsite testing for everyone before they go on the floor. -- Alan. ________________________________________ From: Susan English via Contra Callers < contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net&gt; Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2021 8:15 AM To: contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net Subject: [Callers] Modified Wedding Dance I am scheduled to provide an outdoor dance at a wedding in Ohio on Sept. 4. The musicians have bowed out, so it would be just me with recorded music, on formica sheets (!) over a large brick patio. Here are modifications I am considering: * mask optional * dance only with chosen partner, i.e. no mixers * can swing chosen partner but otherwise hand contact only (e.g. circle, star, dosidos, AL R&L, sashay) * no long lines F&B With these rules I can modify and call: * big circle dances * squares * Sicilian circles * simple ECD * longways Ceilidgh or barn dances * couple dances (e.g. waltz) * Chicken dance (requested) What do you think? or should I cancel the dance? Susan [🎶] [☺] 330-347-8155 woosterdance.com< https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwoosterdan… _______________________________________________ Contra Callers mailing list -- contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net To unsubscribe send an email to contracallers-leave(a)lists.sharedweight.net _______________________________________________ Contra Callers mailing list -- contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net To unsubscribe send an email to contracallers-leave(a)lists.sharedweight.net

Alan, so well put. Personally, even if I wouldn’t be within breathing range, I would not feel comfortable facilitating an event that potentially would be a danger to others. Laurie Pietravalle Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS> On Thursday, August 26, 2021, 5:14 PM, Mary Collins via Contra Callers < contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net&gt; wrote: I have a wedding Oct 4 and while like Susan, am planning easy dances and all guests are to be vaccinated, I am beginning to feel anxious about it. Mary Collins On Thu, Aug 26, 2021, 4:59 PM Tepfer, Seth via Contra Callers < contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net&gt; wrote: Not to mention Lambda variant is already on US soil, and Lambda is vaccine-resistant. There will come a time it will feel both physically and psychologically safe to dance again. But it will not be soon. Seth Tepfer Director of Software Engineering, Oxford College Schedule an appointment: oxford.emory.edu/SethBooking <https://outlook.office365.com/owa/calendar/SethTepfer@mscloud.emory.net/bookings/> 770-784-8487 seth.tepfer(a)emory.edu Use AskIT for fastest response: Oxford.emory.edu/AskIT <https://app.oxford.emory.edu/WebApps/OCIT/forms/AskIT/index.cfm> <https://app.oxford.emory.edu/WebApps/OCIT/forms/AskIT/index.cfm> Pronouns: he, him, his <https://app.oxford.emory.edu/WebApps/Directories/index.cfm?fuseaction=v.searchresults&searchname=tepfer> ------------------------------ *From:* Winston, Alan P. via Contra Callers < contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net&gt; *Sent:* Thursday, August 26, 2021 4:51 PM *To:* contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net < contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net&gt;gt;; Susan English &lt;senglish(a)umich.edu&gt; *Subject:* [External] [Callers] Re: Modified Wedding Dance Susan -- I would cancel. Delta is projected to keep getting worse through October/November so September will still be on the upward slope. Even with your restrictions and outdoors, an unknowing asymptotic spreader could infect many people, even vaccinated people. The six feet social distance idea was based on the previous SARS and being outdoors is not perfect protection, nor is being vaccinated. I'd feel okay holding an outdoors dance if it's all vaccinated and all masked (not because there's zero risk of spreading but because it's low risk and because vaccination does seem to be very effective against severe enough cases to be hospitalized or die, although there's certainly the cchance that somebody could catch it at the wedding and then give it unknowingly to vulnerable people who didn't even attend. You could make it clear that there's this risk and encourage people to quarantine after until they get a negative test result, but you can't make it happen.) If you're mixing vaccinated and unvaccinated people (people who can't (children under 12) or people who won't) - well, I'd find the risk unacceptably high absent onsite testing for everyone before they go on the floor. -- Alan. ________________________________________ From: Susan English via Contra Callers < contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net&gt; Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2021 8:15 AM To: contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net Subject: [Callers] Modified Wedding Dance I am scheduled to provide an outdoor dance at a wedding in Ohio on Sept. 4. The musicians have bowed out, so it would be just me with recorded music, on formica sheets (!) over a large brick patio. Here are modifications I am considering: * mask optional * dance only with chosen partner, i.e. no mixers * can swing chosen partner but otherwise hand contact only (e.g. circle, star, dosidos, AL R&L, sashay) * no long lines F&B With these rules I can modify and call: * big circle dances * squares * Sicilian circles * simple ECD * longways Ceilidgh or barn dances * couple dances (e.g. waltz) * Chicken dance (requested) What do you think? or should I cancel the dance? Susan [🎶] [☺] 330-347-8155 woosterdance.com< https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwoosterdan… _______________________________________________ Contra Callers mailing list -- contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net To unsubscribe send an email to contracallers-leave(a)lists.sharedweight.net _______________________________________________ Contra Callers mailing list -- contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net To unsubscribe send an email to contracallers-leave(a)lists.sharedweight.net _______________________________________________ Contra Callers mailing list -- contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net To unsubscribe send an email to contracallers-leave(a)lists.sharedweight.net _______________________________________________ Contra Callers mailing list -- contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net To unsubscribe send an email to contracallers-leave(a)lists.sharedweight.net

I just received notice that the son of a couple I know -- just died of Covid. He had been in the hospital for about 10 days, and while in the ICU developed complications of a bacterial infection. He was not vaccinated because his parents had not been vaccinated -- so he had no choice in that decision. He died today. He was in his mid-teens. IMO, this is not the time to have in-person dances -- for weddings or any other reason. The contortions we can apply for reducing risk -- of masks / specified swings / limited partners / no long lines F&B / etc -- are not worth it. The variations of immune function and vaccination efficacy, combined with the Delta variant's exceptionally high level of transmission, make any gathering a risk, especially dancing that involves close contact with multiple people. The people organizing the wedding may be tone deaf to the pandemic, but as callers, we can choose not to participate in that poor judgement. Woody -- Woody Lane Caller, Percussive Dancer Roseburg, Oregon ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 8/26/2021 8:16 AM, Susan English via Contra Callers wrote: _______________________________________________ Contra Callers mailing list -- contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net To unsubscribe send an email to contracallers-leave(a)lists.sharedweight.net