Kat,
I played the recording you linked to (the version on Google Drive), and measured the tempo
as averaging 110 beats per minute, with not much variation over the length of the
recording (except for the ritard at the very end, which I didn't include in my
timing). If my computer is playing the recording at the same speed it was recorded and if
the band plays athe tunes at the same speed at actual dances, it would be, as Jeff said,
near the low end of the danceable range. Or at least it would be near the low end in some
communities; I don't know what range of tempos your dancers are accustomed to in
Halifax. In any case, I doubt there are many (if any) places where 110 BPM would be
considered "fast"--even for very inexperienced contra dancers, as long as they
were able-bodied.
I went looking for YouTube videos of either tune in the set being played at a contra
dance, and I found a couple.
The first tune in this video from the Concord (Massachusetts) Scout House in 2009 is
"Aimee Gagnon", played at a tempo of about 118 BPM:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6F_eNA8v4Q
The tune in this video of large band playing at the 2011 Northwest Folklife Festival in
Seattle is "The Telephone Tune", played at about 113 to 114 BPM:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCTKRMyp0GI
Unfortunately, the NW Folklife video doesn't show the dancers at all. However, I can
hear some clapping that suggests that the dance sequence includes so-called Petronella
spins in the A1 part.
Except for the tempo, the tune set on the Google Drive recording strikes me as fine for
any of the general run of contra dances, excluding those for which you'd want a
special tune for some reason.
Bottom line: You might try encouraging the band to play the Gagnon/Telephone set somewhat
faster than the version on the Google Drive recording--maybe at about the tempo of the
Scout House video, or at least at the tempo of the NWFF video, depending on what you think
will work for your local dancers. This is subject to the proviso that they can maintain
that tempo for the length of a contra dance (as part of an evening of similar dances)
without getting worn out, without tending to drop back to their accustomed slower tempo,
and without, on the other hand, losing control and speeding up even more to a point where
it's uncomfortable for your local dancers. It's also subject to the proviso that
you feel you can make the suggestion in a way that the musicians will find tactful.
--Jim
Santa Clara, CA
On May 14, 2023, at 7:47 AM, Jeff Kaufman via Contra
Callers <contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
On tempo, I think you could play that Sat at the speed on the recording, but it's at
the low end of danceable. If, with the tunes having so many notes, your band is actually
playing more like 105 instead of 110, I could see it being hard to dance to?
Jeff
On Sat, May 13, 2023, 1:41 PM Ben Werner via Contra Callers
<contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Here is a dance with lots of balance through A and smoother B that I wrote a while ago
that I think could work well.
Leftovers, Becket
Ben Werner
A1: (16) Rh to neighbor, Balance Square through 2
A2: (16) Petronella x 2
B1: (16) Balance & Swing Partner
B2: (8) Promenade & fishhook (can think of it like promenade across then slide right,
but flows better to make a nice wide loop over left shoulders)
(8) Star left 1 time around w new neighbors
Inspired by Carol Ormand’s Contra Connection set @ Stellar Days and
Nights 2014 in Buena Vista
Entire dance can be done without ever losing left hand connection with
your partner for 1 of 2 couples if you’re creative. (either 1s or 2s, just not both)
Cheers,
Ben
Sent from my iPhone
On May 13, 2023, at 11:20 AM, Jim Thaxter via
Contra Callers <contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
I think the tunes would be easy to dance to. Some moves would go better with some
phrases, as some others have pointed out, but a good band would be able to adapt a tune to
the dance itself, doing things to emphasize balances, smooth out places with lots of
walking (lines fwd and back, circles). The tunes sound like they should be speedy enough,
as many notey Irish-y tunes do, but they’re only playing at 110 bpm. Even with all the
notes, they’ll still feel to the dancers like they’re just plodding along.
On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 7:47 PM Katherine Kitching via Contra Callers
<contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Hi friends!
You may remember I asked a while ago about what sort of dance I could call to a specific
quebecois tune that one of our bands always played and I hate to call to.
In the end that conversation shifted into one regarding how to communicate with bands
generally, and what sort of expectations I could have of a band that doesn't get into
the business of choosing tunes to match dances themselves.
It was all very helpful and I am pleased to report that my relationship with the band I
was previously having some friction with has improved!
And- at our upcoming dance they're doing a wonderful thing - they've invited any
interested and aspiring musicians to come and play along unmic'd behind them - and
they've set up a google drive folder with the tunes, containing both recordings and
sheet music,.
This is great for me because finally I can preview all the tunes and be ready with the
desired order they will be played in!
But listening to the Aime-Gagnon-Telephone tune set, I realized this is the other set
this band plays that really bums me out.
I just can't get a dance of mine to feel good to it.
Could you folks have a listen and let me know your thoughts?
I can't really put my finger on it other than ... it kinda feels plodding to dance to
at this speed, and yet it feels like the musicians are playing really fast already?
and....it has a bit of a stressful and on edge feel- rather than a "sit back and
enjoy" feel of other tunes?
I will close by saying this band also plays LOTS of great tunes, which I love, and they
are fabulous musicians :)
here is the tune in the google drive....
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qsoLthlIYvBNRqD2Kvd0JyYzSjwj4KS4/view?usp=…
or if you prefer, on spotify!
https://open.spotify.com/track/7fAJSwoKsQQC1cqlAmouLJ?si=nijl2dibR6Ktupc-w0…
thank you for thoughts and/or dance suggestions :)
Kat in Halifax
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