New subject: New Dance: Betty's night out

18 Apr 2010

I called the dance last night, and it worked very well - it's a keeper.

There was a little tendency for the dancers to finish early, and therefore begin the
Dos-a-do early.  I traced this back to the fact that the figure before the zig zag is a
circle left 3/4.  The dancers were accomplishing that is 6 steps and starting (and
finishing) the zig zag early.  The music was quite zesty, and the dancers were stepping
This wasn't a big problem, and I was able to fix it by timing my calls differently.

...
  Betty's Night Out
  Rich Goss
  Improper, Double Prog 

 A1:  Neighbor Dosido and Swing (end facing down hall) 
 A2: Down hall 4-in-line(4), turn as couples(4); Return(4), hand cast (gents backing up, 4
counts)
 B1: 1/2 Hey, Gents Ricochet Back (Ladies cross rt sh) Partner swing 
 B2: Circle Left 3/4, As Couples, zig left past current N, zag right around next N, zig
left to couple #3 
Regarding the timing in A2, I encouraged the dancers to (a) only take 4 steps down the
hall, and (b) use a courtesy turn.  This sets up the timing for the up the hall and hand
cast.
(The hand cast takes 4 full counts, so therefore the up-the-hall can only be 4 steps.)
I had another problem in that some of the gents didn't do the ricochet correctly, but
that was my fault for not demonstrating the oval pattern that is required. 

-John

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 That's what I had in mind.

 J

 On 4/15/2010 11:52 AM, Gary Shapiro wrote:
  On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 8:31 AM,
richgoss-at-comcast.net wrote:

  I don't think there would be enough time for
a hand cast.

 The hand cast or gate or wheel around should take place in A2:

 A2: Down hall 4-in-line (4), turn as couples (4); return (4), wheel around
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 The hand cast or gate or wheel around should take place in A2: 

 A2: Down hall 4-in-line (4), turn as couples (4); return (4), wheel around 
 (M back up) 

 Isn't the usual timing for a down the hall:? down in 4 (6), turn (4), return (6) ? 

 I like what you are proposing though. 

 Rich 

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 When I've done a dance with a hand cast out of the back up the hall, 
 it's generally ended up

 Down the hall (4 and a bit)
 Turn (4 less a bit)
 Return (4 and a bit)
 Cast (4 less a bit)

 The timing can be a bit flexible.  In addition, the cast will flow right 
 into the Hey and so that timing will be a bit squishy too.

 Jack
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  Isn't the usual timing for a down the hall: 
down in 4 (6), turn (4), return (6) ?

 I like what you are proposing though.

 Rich

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 Seems like a good change to the dance.? Thanks! 

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 When I've done a dance with a hand cast out of the back up the hall, 
 it's generally ended up 

 Down the hall (4 and a bit) 
 Turn (4 less a bit) 
 Return (4 and a bit) 
 Cast (4 less a bit) 

 The timing can be a bit flexible. ?In addition, the cast will flow right 
 into the Hey and so that timing will be a bit squishy too. 

 Jack 

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 Here is the new dance with changes from Jack, and clarification on the zig-zag: 

 Betty?s Night Out ? Rich Goss ???? Improper, Double Prog 

 A1: ? Neighbor Dosido and Swing (end facing down hall) 
 A2: ? Down hall 4-in-line(4), turn as couples(4); Return(4), hand cast (gents backing up,
ladies walking forward) to send the ladies in to start the half hey? 

 B1: 1/2 Hey, Gents Ricochet Back (Ladies cross rt sh) Partner swing 
 B2: Circle Left 3/4, As Couples, zig left?past current N, zag right around next N, zig
left to couple #3 (to start A1 Dosido) 

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 I would refer to the action by saying "as couples, weave past two couples, finish
facing 3rd couple".  Of course, I come from a square dance background where we
"weave the ring".  This would merely be a derivation of that call.

 What I'm not clear on is the richochet. I've heard the term, but am not sure of
the execution. Care to elaborate?

 Thanks,

 Ron Nelson

 Chula Vista, CA

  Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 07:15:55 -0700
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 Right. Another way to describe it would be:
 As couples zig-zag past 2 N couples, moving left around #1 (current), right
 around #2, face the #3 (to A1: dosido).

 Let me know how it goes if you call it.

 Rich

 On 4/15/10 6:46 AM, "Ruth Pershing" &lt;rpershing(a)mindspring.com&gt; wrote:

  Rich ~

 I don't know the answer to your question about whether the dance has
 been written, but could you explain the B2 zig-zag figure? Does it
 mean that as a couple, you pass by the next couple to the left (women
 pass), then next couple by the right (men pass) and the next by the
 left (women pass), then get ready to do-si-do a new neighbor for the
 next time through?

 I might try it this weekend. Thanks,

 ~Ruth, Chapel Hill NC

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 Wrote this dance recently in honor of one of our dancers who
 recently passed
 away, Betty Stewart. Has this one already been written?

 Betty?s Night Out Rich Goss
 Improper, Double Prog

 A1: Neighbor Dosido and Swing (end facing down hall)
 A2: Down hall 4-in-line, turn as couples; Return, face across
 B1: 1/2 Hey, Gents Ricochet Back (Ladies cross rt sh)
 Partner swing
 B2: Circle Left 3/4
 As Couples, zig left, zag right, zig left

 Rich, Portland Or

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 The ladies perform the 1/2 hey, crossing the set.? 

 The gents start the 1/2 hey, but meet in the center, touch hands, and bounce back (or
Richochet) ?to their same side. 

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 I would refer to the action by saying "as couples, weave past two couples, finish
facing 3rd couple". ?Of course, I come from a square dance background where we
"weave the ring". ?This would merely be a derivation of that call. 

 ? 

 What I'm not clear on is the richochet. I've heard the term, but am not sure of
the execution. Care to elaborate? 

 ? 

 Thanks, 

 ? 

 Ron Nelson 

 Chula Vista, CA 
 ? 
  Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 07:15:55 -0700 
 From: richgoss(a)comcast.net 
 To: callers(a)sharedweight.net 
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 Right. Another way to describe it would be: 
 As couples zig-zag past 2 N couples, moving left around #1 (current), right 
 around #2, face the #3 (to A1: dosido). 

 Let me know how it goes if you call it. 

 Rich 

 On 4/15/10 6:46 AM, "Ruth Pershing" &lt;rpershing(a)mindspring.com&gt; wrote: 

  Rich ~ 

 I don't know the answer to your question about whether the dance has 
 been written, but could you explain the B2 zig-zag figure? Does it 
 mean that as a couple, you pass by the next couple to the left (women 
 pass), then next couple by the right (men pass) and the next by the 
 left (women pass), then get ready to do-si-do a new neighbor for the 
 next time through? 

 I might try it this weekend. Thanks, 

 ~Ruth, Chapel Hill NC 

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 Wrote this dance recently in honor of one of our dancers who 
 recently passed 
 away, Betty Stewart. Has this one already been written? 

 Betty?s Night Out Rich Goss 
 Improper, Double Prog 

 A1: Neighbor Dosido and Swing (end facing down hall) 
 A2: Down hall 4-in-line, turn as couples; Return, face across 
 B1: 1/2 Hey, Gents Ricochet Back (Ladies cross rt sh) 
 Partner swing 
 B2: Circle Left 3/4 
 As Couples, zig left, zag right, zig left 

 Rich, Portland Or 

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 Start a hey, ladies pass R, pass P by L on outside, gents meet and then 
 bounce back to end up on their partner's left for the swing (it can be 
 nice if the lady catches her partner for the swing.

 J

 On 4/15/2010 2:45 PM, Ron Nelson wrote:
  I would refer to the action by saying "as
couples, weave past two couples, finish facing 3rd couple".  Of course, I come from a
square dance background where we "weave the ring".  This would merely be a
derivation of that call.

 What I'm not clear on is the richochet. I've heard the term, but am not sure of
the execution. Care to elaborate?

 Thanks,

 Ron Nelson

 Chula Vista, CA

  Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 07:15:55 -0700
 From: richgoss(a)comcast.net
 To: callers(a)sharedweight.net
 Subject: Re: [Callers] Callers Digest, Vol 68, Issue 12- new dance

 Right. Another way to describe it would be:
 As couples zig-zag past 2 N couples, moving left around #1 (current), right
 around #2, face the #3 (to A1: dosido).

 Let me know how it goes if you call it.

 Rich

 On 4/15/10 6:46 AM, "Ruth Pershing&quot;&lt;rpershing(a)mindspring.com&gt;  wrote:

  Rich ~

 I don't know the answer to your question about whether the dance has
 been written, but could you explain the B2 zig-zag figure? Does it
 mean that as a couple, you pass by the next couple to the left (women
 pass), then next couple by the right (men pass) and the next by the
 left (women pass), then get ready to do-si-do a new neighbor for the
 next time through?

 I might try it this weekend. Thanks,

 ~Ruth, Chapel Hill NC

 On Apr 14, 2010, at 11:57 AM, callers-request(a)sharedweight.net wrote:

> From: Rich Goss&lt;richgoss(a)comcast.net&gt;
> Date: April 14, 2010 10:15:21 AM EDT
> To: Shared Weight&lt;callers(a)sharedweight.net&gt;
> Subject: [Callers] New Dance
> Reply-To: Caller's discussion list&lt;callers(a)sharedweight.net&gt;
> 
> 
> Wrote this dance recently in honor of one of our dancers who
> recently passed
> away, Betty Stewart. Has this one already been written?
> 
> Betty?s Night Out Rich Goss
> Improper, Double Prog
> 
> A1: Neighbor Dosido and Swing (end facing down hall)
> A2: Down hall 4-in-line, turn as couples; Return, face across
> B1: 1/2 Hey, Gents Ricochet Back (Ladies cross rt sh)
> Partner swing
> B2: Circle Left 3/4
> As Couples, zig left, zag right, zig left
> 
> 
> Rich, Portland Or
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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 Don't forget that the registration deadline for the Callers Workshop 
 with Lisa Greenleaf is coming up.  At this point, we're about half full, 
 and I expect more registrations to be coming in over the next week or 
 so.  If you've been planning to send in your registration and haven't 
 sent it yet, please get it in soon.

 The workshop will be the weekend of May 21-23, held at a variety of 
 locations in the Chapel Hill area.  We will get started on Friday 
 evening around 7:00 for an opening gathering, will meet all day (8:30 - 
 4:30) on Saturday, have a dance Saturday evening, and then wrap up with 
 a Sunday brunch and closing discussion on Sunday from 11:00 - 2:00 or so.

 The registration form can be downloaded here: 
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