Thanks Jacob, for your reply. It'll be a couple of weeks before I get to look at the
subject. I will try to purchase Chips books from Fran.
Do you have any videos posted?
Rich
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From: Jacob Nancy Bloom <jandnbloom(a)gmail.com>
To: callers(a)sharedweight.net
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Callers] 1820s-1830s Dances
First, a note: Ralph Page's Heritage Dances of Early America contains
dances with publication dates from 1788 to 1817, relying heavily on the
Saltator manuscript of 1807. It was indeed published in 1976, by the Lloyd
Shaw Foundation.
As for teaching Colonial Dance to children, here are the main points:
1. Chip Hendrickson's book Colonial Social Dancing for Children (CSDfC)
spells out how Chip would have presented colonial dance in a school setting
over a course of six lessons.
2. CSDfC was expanded from Chip's earlier book, A Colonial Dancing
Experience (CDE), which is long out of print. While the additional
material in CSDfC is valuable, CDE explains how to teach colonial era
footwork a bit more concisely. The one-session colonial dance workshops
that my wife and I bring into schools are based heavily upon the program
outlined in CDE. (More information about them is available at
www.dancehistoryalive.com)
3. Neither CSDfC nor CDE suggests that it is possible to teach an authentic
triple minor progression contra to school children in a small number of
lessons. The adapted "colonial style" dances which are suggested for
children are mostly four-couple whole set longways dances, with the top
couple moving to the bottom of the set at the end of the dance. CSDfC also
has some three couple longways dances where the first couple dances a
figure with the second couple, goes down the center, return and cast off,
and then does the same figure with the third couple, and the new couple at
the top starts the dance the next time through. CSDfC has true duple minor
contras introduced in the fifth of the six lessons. I had a third grade
group last year that I was able to do a second session with, and I
successfully did a duple minor contra with them in the second session, but
it was a duple minor with a progression that was both understandable and
forgiving: towards the couple below forward and back, pass through and bow
to the new couple you meet.
4. Rich, Patricia Campbell has also taught colonial dance based on Chip's
program. If you're going to the get-together at her place tomorrow, ask
her about it. (I won't be able to make it this year.)
5. Every book of carefully researched colonial dances has to rely on the
only available printed sources about dance of the period, and those
sources, whether books written by dancing masters or notes taken by the
students of dancing masters about the dances they had learned, are talking
about dancing as taught by people who new what was the latest fashion to
people with the money to learn the most fashionable dances. This leaves
open the question of what kind of dancing was being done out in the country
by people who had never taken lessons. Dudley Laufman has written his
opinion on that subject on a web page on his site, at
http://old.laufman.org/Schools.htm Other authorities claim that the
common people would have danced cut-out reels, meaning that they would have
done a hey for four, stopping sometimes to do footing steps to one of the
other dancers, and with new people taking the place of one of the dancers
when they felt like getting into the dance.
My own colonial dance workshops consist of a brief explanation to the
students of why they would have wanted to learn to dance if they had lived
in colonila times, teaching set, balance, beaten step, rigadoon, and
chassee steps, getting the students into four couple longways sets and
teaching a whole-set longways dance that lets them practice the footwork,
and then teaching a colonial-era singing game.
I hope that's of use to you.
Jacob Bloom
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I have much experience teaching the Colonial Social Dances for Children
program. I'll try to write something about it tomorrow.
By the way, Rich, are you in the Old Sturbridge Village dancers? Art
Martin asked me about 'Barrel of Sugar' the same day you posted your
question about it here. We danced it that night at the Wayside Inn but I
came down with a very nasty bug the next day and I'm still recovering from
it.
Jacob
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Rich,
Two books come to mind that might have material somewhat relevant
to your request, though not exactly on target: _Heritage Dances of
Early America_ by Ralph Page (abbreviated HDoEA below) and _Colonial
Social Dancing for Children: Social Dancing of Washington?s Time
arranged for Today?s Young People_ by Charles Cyril ("Chip")
Hendrickson [CSDfC below]. Here's a little more information about
them, with the caveat that I don't have my copy of either book at
hand and my memory may be faulty on some of the details.
* * * * * * * * * *
HDoEA was published in or about 1976 by the Lloyd Shaw Foundation.
It appears to be out of print. It's indexed in Michael Dyck's
contra dance index, and many of the dances in it (or versions of
them) appear in other sources. You can find them by going to
http://www.ibiblio.org/contradance/index/by_title.html
and searching for the string "HDoEA". (The page
http://www.ibiblio.org/contradance/index/sources.html
is a key to the source abbreviations.)
IIRC, the dances in HDoEA are from sources dating from the 1790s
through the first decade or two of the 1800's, so a little earlier
the period you asked about, though some may have remained popular
for some time after. All or almost all are longways triple minors,
though some might be of the sort that are readily adapted to duple
minor form. For each dance, Page give both the description as it
appeared in the original source and an interpretation in modern
terminology.
The part about being "easy enough for children" could be
problematical to say the least, for reasons that will be evident
to anyone who has tried teaching relatively "easy" contras to
groups (whether children or adults) where almost all are unfamiliar
with how progression works, dancing to the phrase, etc. Even
experienced contemporary contra dancers could have difficulties
with things like triple-minor progression, right-and-left four
from proper position (in communities where older dances like
"Petronella" and "Hull's Victory" have disappeared from
repertoire),
crossover heys for three, or choreography that asks you to turn a
four-person star just halfway around in eight beats.
* * * * * * * * * *
CSDfC and a companion CD appear to be currently available from the
Colonial Music Institute
http://www.colonialmusic.org/CSD-bkcd.htm
As the title implies, the book is specifically oriented to
presenting the material to children. But (without having the
book at hand to refresh my memory) I'm pretty sure it's mainly
about situations where the material can be presented over multiple
sessions and not just a single afternoon or evening.
I have essentially no experience teaching/leading dance for
children (except for occasions when a small number of children
show up among a mostly-adult group), and no experience using the
material in CSDfC with dancers of any age. And, while I'm a
dabbler in dance history, I don't know enough about the early
American era to have a clear idea of the similarities and
differences in the dancing of the era covered CSDfC vs. that of
small town New England in 1820-1840.
I'd be interested in hearing from anyone who does have experience
using CDSfC, or from anyone who can offer knowledgeable comments
about how either the choreography or the general teaching methods
it offers would transfer to 1820-1840 era.
--Jim
On Mar 17, 2014, at 8:11 PM, rich sbardella wrote:
I am looking for some period dances that might
have been danced in
small New England towns in 1820-1830. Should be easy enough for
children.
Any suggestions?
Also, does any know the steps to "Barrel of Sugar"? Recommended
music?
Rich Sbardella
Stafford, CT
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There is also An Elegant Collection of Contras and Squares by Ralph Page.
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