I'd like to summarize a few things I've learned recently:
1. Caller- band communication
It's important to coordinate how long to play.
Who will the caller
signal? Will they nod or make eye contact? (Some don't)
What signals do
they prefer? (3,2,1, fist) Generally, when there is a couple out at the
top, the caller signals the band in the B section of the tune that there
will be 1 or 3 (odd number) full times through the dance remaining. Some
only want 1, & fist. First meaning we are now in the last time through the
dance.
We've had a few bands with very fancy or quiet
potatoes. Like they
start playing and I'm standing there thinking, "Are
the potatoes coming
soon? Surely that's not a potato?" Good to have them demonstrate and
work out potatos before the night gets started. Callers often prefer very
clear, loud, simple potatoes.
Tempo! Some use apps to track the band's tempo.
We've had college
music students that are very talented, but have not played
contra gigs,
vary tempo wildly in response to hand signals: Like from 90-150 bpm!
It's good if you can help them zone in on a good contra range like 110-120
bpm. Sometimes when a fiddler in a 3 piece band doesn't know their tunes
as well as the rest they can cause the music to get stuck in the 100-105
bpm range, which really is not as fun for the dancers.
This weekend I had a dance get started with music too
fast for these
particular beginners. The walkthrough had gone fine. It was
that
band's first contra set ever. The beginner dancers really couldn't keep
up . I was so focussed on the dancers and trying to help them with clear
4 count calls that I forgot to *signal the band to slow down*. Anyway,
the dancers got up to speed after 2 times through but I'd let us slip 8
beats behind the music (not super clear phrasing) trying to help the
dancers keep up. So I signalled the band, "Here is the Top of the tune"
(Flat hand tapped on top of my head) hoping they might adjust the phrasing
back to where we were in the dance. They didn't respond. I extended a
swing "keep swinging" to get back in groove with the 16 beat phrases, and
signalled the band the next "top of tune". So maybe they'd get us
synchronized with A1. They asked afterward what in the world that signal
meant. They said, "Oh, we could probably do that. Now we know."
When I was a beginner and was messing up more, George Paul would
automatically adjust the phrasing anytime I got confused with the music and
got behind in the song. I asked at the end how I got back
sychronized wiht the music and he said, "Oh yeah, we fixed it a couple
times. We are watching the dancers. We had a caller one time and we had
to fix the tune every time through the dance . That wasn't very fun".
2. Contra music ideas:
(I am not musical!)
Ed Howe was coaching my wife and I regarding calling
to all sorts of
contra tunes, and Ed said he often saw the A1 & A2 part of the
tune as sort
of a "call and response". (He then demonstrated a few examples) The
music sounds like it's sort of asking a 8 beat question, and then answering
the question in 8 beats. (A1), and then A2 does something similar. Then
b1 &* b2 are much more like meandering or complicated "reasoning" chatter
of music. This really helped me hear the 4 16 beat phrases much more
automatically.
The best bands often get good at contra dancing.
That will really help
them be a good contra band. Then they really feel the music
in the dance
and learn what feels good and fun to the dancers.
Good Luck!
You'll learn something every time.
Rob
On Mon, Feb 24, 2025 at 1:35 AM David Kirchner via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
I'd like to cosign nearly all of Greg's
excellent response below. Don't
tell people how to play their music. It's disrespectful. But you can say
that in order to have them play for your dance, you have certain needs. Are
they interested in working to meet those needs? If not, that's fine, it's
not the gig for them. If so, focus on your bottom line needs and build from
there.
What is already in their repertoire that you can use? What is a
"must-have" (e.g. distinguishable phrases, steady beat), and what can you
do without if you have to? I once did a entire dance where I did without
2-part tunes -- the band just played tune after tune, medleys of 5, 6 or 7
tunes played two or three times each. Some were three-part, some
half-length, some regular. Fabulous musicians (internationally known,
actually), but in their style of music they had never thought much about
how many parts their tunes had. It was going to be a huge lift for them to
keep track of which tunes had how many parts, and so I just let go of it.
(Happily, all of their tunes had square phrases, at least.)
I recently did a dance with an Irish bar band that had somehow heard about
contra dancing and managed to talk themselves onto the schedule without
having a clue what they were supposed to be doing. I went to a rehearsal
about a month out and told them a bunch of things about what would work and
what wouldn't, but I also realized there was no substitute for experience.
So I said, "which of the next few Saturdays could some of you go to one of
our dances? I'll arrange to get you a free pass." Eventually two of them
came the following week to a dance and simply watched what was happening
for about 90 minutes. The band leader called me the next day (I had a
conflict and could not be at the dance myself) and said "Ohhhh. Now we
understand." They ended up doing a nice job and were asked back.
David
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 16:09:40 +0000
From: Gregory <glibguide(a)protonmail.com>
Subject: [Callers] Re: working with inexperienced bands
Hi Joseph,
What is your musical experience/skill?
I have a music degree, have plied my trade in a few different areas of
professional musicianship, and I've been working with live musicians
(particularly young fiddlers who i see as the future and want to give
performance opportunities to) for 10 years as a dance caller in an area
with little-to-no contra dancing.
First off, I would get a sense of your musicians interest in the gig. Are
they doing it for easy money? Are they genuinely interested to play for
dancers and don't care how much they get paid? Are they making their living
from gig work? Or is this something they do on the side for fun? Are they
old-time experienced players? Or are they new upstarts, still forming their
musical identity as a performer? Have they mastered their instruments or
are they better-then-average amateurs? Answers to these questions can help
set expectations for their commitment.
I can confidently say that the suggestion of sending musicians new tunes
/ resources a few weeks before the dance is not a welcome prospect and not
setting them up for success. You should, instead, encourage new repertoire
over a long period of time, and for the next show focus on what is in their
current repertoire that will suffice for dances (if you want them to play
for you again). It may seem an imposition, but if you can attend one of
their rehearsals or jams, and ask to go through their repertoire, that
would be best. Keep a few things in mind while doing so:
- No matter how experienced a fiddler is, playing for contra dances is a
specific skill or knowledge base; don't be afraid to say that such-and-such
doesn't work
- Some tunes sound fine but they're actually crooked and will not work
for contra. You need to be able to detect these tunes to prevent them being
programmed and ruining one of the dances. Crooked tunes in the contra dance
realm take multiple forms: additional beats within a measure, yes, but also
additional measures on a phrase. Phrases that are 4 or 12 beats long, and
tunes that have more than 2 parts are particularly hard to detect. Your
musicians may or may not know the difference or whether this is important
or not (even if you're clear that 32 bars jigs and reels is what you're
after, before hand).
- Different kinds of tunes work if the band is willing to play with the
tempo. For example, jigs tend to be played faster than is comfortable for
the dancers, so they need to be slowed down a touch, and polkas can also be
played at a slower tempo. I suggest this to attempt to broaden the
potential tunes that can be programmed while working within what they
already know.
Also be respectful of different musicians abilities... Dave Brubeck
couldn't read music, and some traditional musicians also never learned how
to read music, picking up tunes by ear instead. If this is the case,
sending tunes a few weeks before a show is simply not going to work.
Musicians have their own culture apart from dancers, so temper your
expectations and be patient and respectful.
Consider not hiring a "band" but hiring a fiddler. I don't know what the
remote situation you're in is like, but if you have any professional
musicians in your area, they should know how the gigs work. If you can find
a single fiddler and hire them, they will find someone else to play with
them as a duo or trio, as long as you explain what you're looking for
(reels at 120 bpm, playing for dancers, etc.) and the pay. If you can pair
less experienced musicians with more experienced musicians, this will
benefit you in the long run, bringing up a new generation of fiddlers in
this tradition. For example, many musicians have students. Ask if one of
their students is up for the task of performing and they can join in on a
few tunes. It also broadens your dance base when the parents come out and
participate.
You'll want to go over with whomever you hire a series of signals that
indicate "speed up", "slow down", "keep playing",
"stop immediately" and
"stop at the end of the phrase / last time".
You'll want to ensure that they start each tune with a 4 beat
introduction ("Four for nothing" as Winton Marsalis says, and "Four
potatoes" as is the phrase around here), which is a cue for you to cue the
dancers. Musicians are NOT in the habit of doing this on their own, and
waiting once through the tune instead is too long.
Forcing a square peg into a round hole is not what i would consider
setting anyone up for success. Expecting your blue grass band to convert to
a contra dance band lickity-split is, in my opinion, not a good approach. I
would suggest letting it be what it's going to be. Maybe your group likes
blue grass tunes, and you form a contra/bluegrass syncretism. This is part
of the folk process. Everywhere, everyone, is different and cherishing that
and encouraging appreciation is what i would consider setting people up for
success - my previous recommendations and advice support this idea, I
think. For example, in my area, fiddling is heavily influenced by many
repertoires, particularly Metis, which was originally used for Metis step
dancing. I doubt the Metis fiddle tunes get played anywhere else, but they
make for excellent contra dance tunes with their own flare and feel. I'm
leaning into this, it's part of the Manitoba sound!
Best of luck! Happy Dancing!
Greg, Winnipeg
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