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Re: Easy and Fun (Donald Primrose) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 20:30:36 -0800 From: Greg McKenzie &lt;grekenzie(a)gmail.com To: "Caller's discussion list" &lt;callers(a)sharedweight.net Subject: Re: [Callers] Shadow Dances? Message-ID: &lt;CAFqkWLtxghWVYAcCVL-0WXDXmhL2Q_-R2f+g+EeqeCqsXhurYA(a)mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Colin wrote: asked > to dance. I suspect that the real objection to unannounced mixers is that they remove control of the partnering process from the dancers. With a shadow dance every dancer is assigned a second "partner" in the form of a shadow, someone they might not want to partner with. That's why some dislike shadow swings. I like mixers, in general. But I also think it is very important to empower the dancers to partner with whomever they wish. This is key to integrating first-timers as well. When you give control of the partnering process to the regulars you also give responsibility to the regulars for integrating newcomers. It is important to maintain the caller- dancer trust relationship. - Greg McKenzie ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 02:33:16 -0500 From: Don Veino &lt;sharedweight_net(a)veino.com To: "Caller's discussion list" &lt;callers(a)sharedweight.net Subject: [Callers] Report Back: Hello and a few questions... Message-ID: &lt;CAAJTtiLYnZCmpotK82LwJyQh1XNq_M83e4Grc5ZwhiAgjdcNZQ(a)mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, I realize I owed a report back on my first gig experience. In the simplest summary, it went great. I had planned a program of more basic, very connected dances based upon the crowd I was expecting. It turned out that we had zero newbies and kept most of the crowd from the start right through to the end, which made me want to stretch the material in the second half. I ended up pulling up a few cards I'd prepped for another venue, and modified a bit for better connection/ orientation (eg: in *A Rare Bird* making the pass bys into pull bys, gypsy to allemande, etc.) and all went well. To the best of my recollection, my program was: Alamo Intro - Circle - Al Green Get Me Going - DI - Lisa Greenleaf Broken Transcription - DI - Don Veino (yet another variant on Broken Sixpence) Polymorphous' Reel - DI - Christine Hale (dance written in honor of the prior incarnation of the band, request by organizer) You're Among Friends - DI - Bob Isaacs Butter - Becket - Gene Hubert (my video of this night's walk- through and dance at http://youtu.be/pqSoOvu2wI0 ) --- Nail That Catfish To The Tree - DI - Walter Davies [+Bob Dalsemer] (unfortunately, tune was not in the band's portfolio) Special Delivery - Becket - Nell Wright Redbeard Reel - Becket - Bob Isaacs (written for dancers that were present) A Rare Bird - DI - Bob Isaacs, var: Lisa Greenleaf, plus mods on the fly by me The Big Easy - DI - Becky Hill I had two points of trickiness in my teaching. In Special Delivery, my prep notes were unclear about whether the B2 L Chain was across or on diagonal so I taught it straight across then figured it out in the walkthrough it was diagonal. In Rare Bird, I had not refined my language enough in prep to clearly describe the current N pull by coming out of the LH Star at the bottom of the B2, resulting in me having to talk more than I planned and run through a second time to get it across. I now have better card notes for both. Thanks for the tips and info from this list! I put a bunch of it to good use and hope to apply more soon. I got good feedback from several dancers, had fun with the band, and the organizer was very happy (and has invited me back). -Don ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 07:40:43 +0000 From: Colin Hume &lt;colin(a)colinhume.com To: "Caller's discussion list" &lt;callers(a)sharedweight.net Subject: Re: [Callers] Report Back: Hello and a few questions... Message-ID: &lt;4EF824FB.4030404(a)colinhume.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Don - Sounds as if you did a great job - congratulations! On 26/12/2011 07:33, Don Veino wrote: That's so important - there are callers who always cause confusion at some point in some dance but never change their card! Colin Hume E-mail: colin(a)colinhume.com Website: http://www.colinhume.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4702 - Release Date: 12/25/11 ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 08:13:20 -0500 From: Walter &lt;walterdaves(a)windstream.net To: callers(a)sharedweight.net Subject: [Callers] Groundhog day Message-ID: &lt;4EF872F0.9050405(a)windstream.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed The applicability of shadow dances notwithstanding, I have also used tunnel dances and dances with a dip and dive progression in honor of the other piece of the tradition, namely, coming out of the hole to greet the whatever. Walter ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 09:24:30 -0500 From: Luke Donforth &lt;luke.donev(a)gmail.com To: "Caller's discussion list" &lt;callers(a)sharedweight.net Subject: Re: [Callers] Groundhog day Message-ID: &lt;CAFrKOZa-pqugrQsgdoA8KwYCW2AaGu8=+22EK6ObhT20SF-Vng(a)mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The applicability of shadow dances notwithstanding, I have also used tunnel > dances and dances with a dip and dive progression in honor of the > other > piece of the tradition, namely, coming out of the hole to greet the > whatever. > Walter A nice additional twist, Walter. Do you have favorites for that? I wonder if there are any dip & dives that also have shadows...? And now I'm contemplating a double-length (128 bar) dance where you meet your shadow only every other time... such ways lie madness and sleepless night choreographing dances that never get called... Thanks though, I like the dip and dive idea. -- Luke Donforth Luke.Donforth(a)gmail.com &lt;Luke.Donev(a)gmail.com www.lukedonev.com ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 09:26:14 -0500 From: Luke Donforth &lt;luke.donev(a)gmail.com To: "Caller's discussion list" &lt;callers(a)sharedweight.net Subject: Re: [Callers] Shadow Dances? Message-ID: &lt;CAFrKOZb=bt+jusuQd-Ma_TYqj4xnTXtg1ybVzaMkSDOmH8CPWw(a)mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 what > have you. Sounds fun. Wish I could be there. :) > Andrea A good idea Andrea. I hadn't planned on putting in more than two shadow dances in an evening anyway, but even at two I think varying the shadow interaction is the way to do it. -- Luke Donforth Luke.Donforth(a)gmail.com &lt;Luke.Donev(a)gmail.com www.lukedonev.com ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 11:01:53 -0500 From: Hanny Budnick &lt;kyrmyt(a)cavtel.net To: Callers(a)sharedweight.net Subject: [Callers] Double contra - whodunnit? Message-ID: &lt;4EF89A71.7020407(a)cavtel.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I failed to note it down immediately after dancing it... Maybe one of you can fill in the considerable gaps, please: 1) The choreography stems from 'someone in California'. 2) Formation: two improper contra lines, close together for a double dance across the whole set 3) there's a hey for all eight in it Your turn.... Thanks, Hanny ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 11:03:07 -0500 From: &quot;holt.e(a)comcast.net&quot; &lt;holt.e(a)comcast.net To: Callers(a)sharedweight.net Subject: [Callers] Easy and Fun Message-ID: &lt;380-22011121261637881(a)M2W108.mail2web.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi all, I am about to call a dance the character of which has changed from what I expected and I need some easy dances. I had harder material planned and while I do have some material that is probably easy enough, I am not sure that it is. The dance is at a college. It is for college students only, pssibly only students from that college, and we are now hoping for a large contingent of beginers; perhaps mostly beginners. Have you any expereince with a similar situation? I am thinking along the lines of ONS dances, although if we made a few into regulars for the regular dance there that would be great. So: "no-partner" dances, mixers (I have January Mixer - a great one), Set dances ("Once and to the bottoms") ....... We intend to have a blast! Rickey Holt, Fremont, NH -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 11:14:33 -0500 From: Chris Page &lt;chriscpage(a)gmail.com To: "Caller's discussion list" &lt;callers(a)sharedweight.net Subject: Re: [Callers] Double contra - whodunnit? Message-ID: &lt;CAObbV+NTLi-=tZ0YyZ+YKeENoue-Zjwh-g9VO9PagvTtn-tQ0w(a)mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Hanny Budnick &lt;kyrmyt(a)cavtel.net&gt; wrote: dance "Major Hey" by Erik Hoffman? It also has Rory o' More slides in it, and is 40 bars. Though I think it's a Becket 4-face-4. -Chris Page San Diego ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 11:17:05 -0500 From: "Bree Kalb" &lt;bree(a)mindspring.com To: "Caller's discussion list" &lt;callers(a)sharedweight.net Subject: Re: [Callers] Double contra - whodunnit? Message-ID: <ECD7604DAEE1417395377A682DA8CDD2@BreeHomeLaptop Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Might be Major Hey by Erik Hoffman. Here's a link to a previous discussion and description on this list. http://www.sharedweight.net/pipermail/callers/2007-December/001112.html Bree Kalb -----Original Message----- From: Hanny Budnick Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 11:01 AM To: Callers(a)sharedweight.net Subject: [Callers] Double contra - whodunnit? I failed to note it down immediately after dancing it... Maybe one of you can fill in the considerable gaps, please: 1) The choreography stems from 'someone in California'. 2) Formation: two improper contra lines, close together for a double dance across the whole set 3) there's a hey for all eight in it Your turn.... Thanks, Hanny _______________________________________________ Callers mailing list Callers(a)sharedweight.net http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 11:59:51 -0500 From: Donald Primrose &lt;limerickfarm(a)gmail.com To: holt.e(a)comcast.net, "Caller's discussion list" &lt;callers(a)sharedweight.net Subject: Re: [Callers] Easy and Fun Message-ID: &lt;CAD4tQvbCdVuNcm6MOgGECg79kYQDwtm_WK_P5bhqrr77YB8QgQ(a)mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Something to check on.. depends on the day of the week, and is there a potential that students have been drinking. Changes the dance. & go with the normal stuff.. no need to dumb it down, after all they asked you to call a contra.. I assume, -don On 12/26/11, holt.e(a)comcast.net &lt;holt.e(a)comcast.net&gt; wrote: large expereince a > great one), Set dances ("Once and to the bottoms") ....... > We intend to have a blast! > Rickey Holt, Fremont, NH > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > Callers(a)sharedweight.net > http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Callers mailing list Callers(a)sharedweight.net http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers End of Callers Digest, Vol 88, Issue 28 ***************************************

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>> Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 18:00:44 -0800 >> From: winston(a)slac.stanford.edu >> To: callers(a)sharedweight.net >> Subject: [Callers] Changing on the last round for a partner swing >> >> Callers -- >> >> Looking for opinions. >> >> As a caller, I will usually alter (if necessary), the last dance of a

>> the last dance of the first half, or the last dance of evening to end

>> partner swing if it doesn't work that way in the choreography. (You

>> "This time, circle half and swing your partner" or "This time, just

>> swinging!" thing.) >> >> I'll usually leave the other dances alone. They end how they end; the

>> gets to crescendo and I don't have to be heard, and the dancers get

>> other than utter predictability. >> >> (As a dancer I don't like utter predictability; I begin to get a

>> bored if the callers changes every dance to end with a partner swing.) >> >> But I mentioned this to my date, and she *loves* it when the caller

>> dance to make it a partner swing so that it feels like you're

>> the partner who asked you, and feels disappointed if the caller

>> those changes. I mentioned the issue of stepping on the band's hot

>> a dancer, that meant nothing to her. >> >> So what do y'all think? What do you do? How you do think people like

>> >> (Nobody's ever complained to me that I didn't alter endings enough,

>> doubt that's the kind of thing anybody complains to anybody about,

>> probably has some impact on dancers enjoyment of the evening.) >> >> Thanks! >> >> -- Alan >> >> -- >>

>> Alan Winston --- WINSTON(a)SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU >> Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or SSRL Phone:

>> Paper mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 99, 2575 Sand Hill Rd, Menlo Park CA

>>

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