Re: [Callers] Callers Digest, Vol 45, Issue 13 - Contra Callers

10 May 2008

Well, let's see - here in San Diego, I've got a Ph.D. in molecular  
biology, another caller is a Professor of Dance at SDSU, another  
caller is a post-doc at UCSD, another caller has a Ph.D. and runs the  
electron microscope facility at SDSU, and the last caller has an M.A.  
of Fine Arts. So, yeah, we do seem to be a bit degree-heavy.
Martha

I've also noticed that there are many people
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 Today's Topics:

    1. Callers with higher degrees (Tina Fields)
    2. Turning Point and A Rollin and A Tumblin (Rickey)
    3. Re: Turning Point and A Rollin and A Tumblin (Chris Page)
    4. Re: Callers with higher degrees
       (Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing)
    5. Re: Turning Point and A Rollin and A Tumblin (Jack Mitchell)
    6. Re: Turning Point and A Rollin and A Tumblin (mavis mcgaugh)
    7. Re: Callers with higher degrees (jean francis)

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 Message: 1
 Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 10:04:51 -0700 (PDT)
 From: Tina Fields &lt;tfields8(a)yahoo.com&gt;
 Subject: [Callers] Callers with higher degrees
 To: "callers@ sharedweight.net" &lt;callers(a)sharedweight.net&gt;et>,	Lynn
 	Ackerson &lt;callynn1(a)pacbell.net&gt;
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 Hi everyone -

 In a conversation with Lynn Ackerson a couple of weeks ago,
 it came out that both of us have Ph.Ds. Now I'm very
 curious about how many of us have higher degrees, and what
 fields they're in. (Maybe calling really IS rocket science!
 <g>)

 If you have a terminal degree or know of a caller who does,
 would you be willing to e-mail that info to me? I'll
 collate the info and share it back with you as one letter.
 Thanks!!

 Tina Fields
 tfields8 at yahoo dot com

 Tina R. Fields, Ph.D.
 (707) 824-9318

 "Hindsight Now!"

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 Message: 2
 Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 15:47:49 -0400
 From: "Rickey" &lt;holt.e(a)comcast.net&gt;
 Subject: [Callers] Turning Point and A Rollin and A Tumblin
 To: &lt;callers(a)sharedweight.net&gt;
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 Hi Callers,

 I am working up two dances that I am having trouble with.  The  
 evening I am
 preparing them for is tomorrow night. The dances are Turning Point  
 and A
 Rollin and A Tumblin.  Here are the dances and my questions:

 (1) Turning Point (do you know the author)

 Duple Improper

 A1        Women change places (with a ? gypsy) (4)

             Circle left ?                                            
 (4)

             Partner Swing                                        (8)

 A2        Men change places (with a ? gypsy)       (4)

             Circle left ?                                            
 (4)

             Neighbor do-si-do                                   (8)

 B1        Neighbor Balance and Swing                   (16)

 B2        Right and Left over (not back)                  (8)

             Star  
 left                                                 (8)

 When my wife and I walk this at home I believe that she has an  
 abrupt change
 of direction to get from the circle left ? to the partner swing,  
 and I know
 that I have a similar abrupt change of direction to get from the  
 circle left
 ?  to the neighbor do-si-do, if I am correct to do that with the  
 neighbors
 who are then below me.  This seems do-able, even fun, but, as it seems
 unusual, I wanted to try and be sure that it was correct.

 (2) A Rollin and A Tumblin (Cis Hinkle)

 Duple Improper

 A1        Neighbor balance and swing (16)

 A2        Long lines forward and back, women roll away on the way  
 back (8)

             Same again, but men roll away   (8)

 B1        Women Allemande Right (1 ? )   (8)

             Partner Swing    (8)

 B2        Ladies chain (over but not back)  (8)

             Star left (8)

 I have been having trouble getting dancers to roll away on the way  
 back,
 rather than after the forward and back.  Should mess up the timing,  
 although
 not too much bad seems to follow.  What experiences with this dance  
 have you
 had?

 Thanks as always

 (And my dancers thank you too)

 Rickey Holt

 Fremont, NH

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 Message: 3
 Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 13:02:04 -0700
 From: "Chris Page" &lt;chriscpage(a)gmail.com&gt;
 Subject: Re: [Callers] Turning Point and A Rollin and A Tumblin
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 On 5/9/08, Rickey &lt;holt.e(a)comcast.net&gt; wrote:
  Hi Callers,

  I am working up two dances that I am having trouble with.  The  
 evening I am
  preparing them for is tomorrow night. The dances are Turning  
 Point and A
  Rollin and A Tumblin.  Here are the dances and my questions:

  (1) Turning Point (do you know the author) 
 Gene Hubert (It's "The Turning Point")
 Your transcription appears to be correct.

  When my wife and I walk this at home I believe that she has an  
 abrupt change
  of direction to get from the circle left ? to the partner swing,  
 and I know
  that I have a similar abrupt change of direction to get from the  
 circle left
  ?  to the neighbor do-si-do, if I am correct to do that with the  
 neighbors
  who are then below me.  This seems do-able, even fun, but, as it  
 seems
  unusual, I wanted to try and be sure that it was correct.

 The first is the same sort of transition as appears in the A1 of  
 "Alternating
 Corners" or "Roll in the Hey."

 The second is the same deal as the women's role in "Midwest Folklore",
 among other dances. You can use the connection of the circle to pull
 into the do-si-do. (I assume your description of "below" is from the
 viewpoint of Man #1.)

 -Chris Page
 San Diego

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 Message: 4
 Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 15:09:39 -0700 (PDT)
 From: Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing
 	&lt;winston(a)slac.stanford.edu&gt;
 Subject: Re: [Callers] Callers with higher degrees
 To: "Caller's discussion list" &lt;callers(a)sharedweight.net&gt;
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 Tina --

 I'm a college dropout myself, but I'm pretty sure Bruce Hamilton is a
 PhD.  Mike Richardson is an MD, if that counts.

 -- Alan

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 Message: 5
 Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 18:44:28 -0400
 From: Jack Mitchell &lt;jamitch3(a)mindspring.com&gt;
 Subject: Re: [Callers] Turning Point and A Rollin and A Tumblin
 To: Caller's discussion list &lt;callers(a)sharedweight.net&gt;
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 Thoughts below.

 J

 At 03:47 PM 5/9/2008, you wrote:
  Hi Callers,

 I am working up two dances that I am having trouble with.  The  
 evening I am
 preparing them for is tomorrow night. The dances are Turning Point  
 and A
 Rollin and A Tumblin.  Here are the dances and my questions:

 (1) Turning Point (do you know the author)

 Duple Improper

 A1        Women change places (with a ? gypsy) (4)

             Circle  
 left ?                                           (4)

             Partner Swing                                        (8)

 A2        Men change places (with a ? gypsy)       (4)

             Circle  
 left ?                                           (4)

             Neighbor do-si-do                                   (8)

 B1        Neighbor Balance and Swing                   (16)

 B2        Right and Left over (not back)                  (8)

             Star  
 left                                                 (8)

 When my wife and I walk this at home I believe that she has an  
 abrupt change
 of direction to get from the circle left ? to the partner swing,  
 and I know
 that I have a similar abrupt change of direction to get from the  
 circle left
 ?  to the neighbor do-si-do, if I am correct to do that with the  
 neighbors
 who are then below me.  This seems do-able, even fun, but, as it  
 seems
 unusual, I wanted to try and be sure that it was correct.  You should just be able
to tug your neighbor into
 the DsD and use the momentum of the circle to get
 started, since you'd be with your neighbor on the side of the set.

 (2) A Rollin and A Tumblin (Cis Hinkle)

 Duple Improper

 A1        Neighbor balance and swing (16)

 A2        Long lines forward and back, women roll away on the way  
 back (8)

             Same again, but men roll away   (8)

 B1        Women Allemande Right (1 ? )   (8)

             Partner Swing    (8)

 B2        Ladies chain (over but not back)  (8)

             Star left (8)

 I have been having trouble getting dancers to roll away on the way  
 back,
 rather than after the forward and back.  Should mess up the  
 timing, although
 not too much bad seems to follow.  What experiences with this  
 dance have you
 had? 
 I've had this same problem.  All I've been able
 to do is to emphacize the "and on the way back
 out" in the walk through.  It also helps if
 they're giving weight through the long lines --
 that way the connection for the rollaway is already there.

  Thanks as always

 (And my dancers thank you too)

 Rickey Holt

 Fremont, NH

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 Message: 6
 Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 19:49:20 -0700 (PDT)
 From: mavis mcgaugh &lt;yankeecalls(a)yahoo.com&gt;
 Subject: Re: [Callers] Turning Point and A Rollin and A Tumblin
 To: Caller's discussion list &lt;callers(a)sharedweight.net&gt;
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 I never use the phrase forward and back when I teach
 this dance.
   I say take hands in lines and walk forward and STOP
 -- 
   then I say
 Gents as you back up roll your neighbor away with a
 half sashay
   then I say
 take hands in lines and walk forward and STOP
   Ladies on your way back roll that same neighbor gent
 away with a 1/2 sashay

    if there are a lot of beginners I teach the roll
 away during the newcomer's session.
 --- Jack Mitchell &lt;jamitch3(a)mindspring.com&gt; wrote:

  Thoughts below.

 J

 At 03:47 PM 5/9/2008, you wrote:
  Hi Callers,

 I am working up two dances that I am having trouble  with.  The evening I am
  preparing them for is tomorrow night. The dances
 are Turning Point and A
  Rollin and A Tumblin.  Here are the dances and my
 questions:

 (1) Turning Point (do you know the author)

 Duple Improper

 A1        Women change places (with a ? gypsy) (4)

             Circle left ?                   (4)

             Partner Swing                (8)

 A2        Men change places (with a ? gypsy)  (4)

             Circle left ?                   (4)

             Neighbor do-si-do               (8)

 B1        Neighbor Balance and Swing     (16)

 B2        Right and Left over (not back)        (8)

             Star left                     (8)

 When my wife and I walk this at home I believe that  she has an abrupt change
  of direction to get from the circle left ? to the
 partner swing, and I know
  that I have a similar abrupt change of direction
to  get from the circle left
  ?  to the neighbor do-si-do, if I am correct to
do  that with the neighbors
  who are then below me.  This seems do-able, even
 fun, but, as it seems
  unusual, I wanted to try and be sure that it was
 correct.
 You should just be able to tug your neighbor into
 the DsD and use the momentum of the circle to get
 started, since you'd be with your neighbor on the
 side of the set.

 (2) A Rollin and A Tumblin (Cis Hinkle)

 Duple Improper

 A1        Neighbor balance and swing (16)

 A2        Long lines forward and back, women roll  away on the way back (8)

             Same again, but men roll away   (8)

 B1        Women Allemande Right (1 ? )   (8)

             Partner Swing    (8)

 B2        Ladies chain (over but not back)  (8)

             Star left (8)

 I have been having trouble getting dancers to roll  away on the way back,
  rather than after the forward and back.  Should
 mess up the timing, although
  not too much bad seems to follow.  What
experiences  with this dance have you
  had? 
 I've had this same problem.  All I've been able
 to do is to emphacize the "and on the way back
 out" in the walk through.  It also helps if
 they're giving weight through the long lines --
 that way the connection for the rollaway is already
 there.

  Thanks as always

 (And my dancers thank you too)

 Rickey Holt

 Fremont, NH

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 Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 19:49:57 -0700 (PDT)
 From: jean francis &lt;catherineaura(a)yahoo.com&gt;
 Subject: Re: [Callers] Callers with higher degrees
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 Probably more than half have advanced degrees, I'd bet. Lots among  
 contra musicians too. A few who come to mind:

   Among New Mexico callers, Merri Rudd is a probate judge, Donna  
 Howell has a PhD in biology, Will McDonald and Katherine Bueler  
 have masters.

   In California, Kirston Koths has a PhD.

 Tina Fields &lt;tfields8(a)yahoo.com&gt; wrote:
   Hi everyone -

 In a conversation with Lynn Ackerson a couple of weeks ago,
 it came out that both of us have Ph.Ds. Now I'm very
 curious about how many of us have higher degrees, and what
 fields they're in. (Maybe calling really IS rocket science!
 )

 If you have a terminal degree or know of a caller who does,
 would you be willing to e-mail that info to me? I'll
 collate the info and share it back with you as one letter.
 Thanks!!

 Tina Fields
 tfields8 at yahoo dot com

 Tina R. Fields, Ph.D.
 (707) 824-9318

 "Hindsight Now!"
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