Andea asked, "I would love to hear from those who have danced Morris or other single gender sets in hands four whether they use numbered corners or some other designation." Most Cotswold Morris is six men - two lines of three. And, yes, we say First Corners for the long right diagonal (what ECD would call First Long Corners) and Second Corners. The two men in the middle of the two lines of three are Third Corners. I use the same nomenclature (Third Corners) when calling dances like Black Nag. There are not many situations where you have the equivalent of "hands four" in Cotswold Morris. One exception is the Lichfield Hey - Lichfield is an 8-man dance. You will hear the men chanting, "First, Second, Pause, Change". First and Second here refer to POSITION, so you alternate between being a First Corner and a Second Corner. = = = = = = = = = = = I notice that neither http://heatherandrose.org/terms.shtml nor http://lcfd.org/gf-ecd-calling-conventions.html seem to have the word "Swing" anywhere on the page! This seems to me to be a major omission! There do appear to be people who think that ECD doesn't include swings, and maybe in some American ECD clubs they don't. But country dancing in England most definitely includes swings in all sorts of styles. Happy dancing, John John Sweeney, Dancer, England john(a)modernjive.com 01233 625 362 http://www.contrafusion.co.uk for Dancing in Kent