19 Feb
2012
19 Feb
'12
2:21 p.m.
Yes, Flirtation Reel is a lovely dance, but there are a few things about it which make it
a bit less than ideal for dancers' first exposure to heys.
First, the transition from the up-the-center to the hey provides no momentum/flow guidance
about which shoulder to pass to start the hey. For the first hey dance, I'd prefer
one with stronger flow at the moment of initiation.
Second, the series of passes (NR, 2's L, Same sex R, 1's L, etc.) is not only
different from most heys (which have same-sex in the center [because they are equal
dances]), but the series of passes seems to be a bit harder to grasp in the same way that
the differing roles of unequal dances bumps up the complexity of the sequence a bit.
For my money, a hey dance that satisfies my requirements is a modified "Roll in the
Hey". The original is:
A1 circle left; swing neighbour
A2 circle left three quarters; swing partner
B1 long lines go forward and back; half ladies chain across
B2 hey for four, ladies pass right to start
Lately, I have been calling it A1 Dosido neighbor; swing neighbor. This is much more
forgiving than the Hey/Circle (full) left combination.
This dance features a Ladies Chain immediately before the hey, and the women's track
is essentially the same as the hey. I use this similarity when I walk through the dance.
Dan
19 Feb
19 Feb
2:34 p.m.
New subject: Heys for new dancers
I would concur with Dan - love the dance, but definitely not the easiest of
heys.
Bob
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Dan Pearl <daniel_pearl(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
Yes, Flirtation Reel is a lovely dance, but there are
a few things about
it which make it a bit less than ideal for dancers' first exposure to heys.
First, the transition from the up-the-center to the hey provides no
momentum/flow guidance about which shoulder to pass to start the hey. For
the first hey dance, I'd prefer one with stronger flow at the moment of
initiation.
Second, the series of passes (NR, 2's L, Same sex R, 1's L, etc.) is not
only different from most heys (which have same-sex in the center [because
they are equal dances]), but the series of passes seems to be a bit harder
to grasp in the same way that the differing roles of unequal dances bumps
up the complexity of the sequence a bit.
For my money, a hey dance that satisfies my requirements is a modified
"Roll in the Hey". The original is:
A1 circle left; swing neighbour
A2 circle left three quarters; swing partner
B1 long lines go forward and back; half ladies chain across
B2 hey for four, ladies pass right to start
Lately, I have been calling it A1 Dosido neighbor; swing neighbor. This
is much more forgiving than the Hey/Circle (full) left combination.
This dance features a Ladies Chain immediately before the hey, and the
women's track is essentially the same as the hey. I use this similarity
when I walk through the dance.
Dan
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New subject: Heys for new dancers
Hey all,
Can you think of other dances that meet all or most of the criteria that
have been listed in this thread, including Dan's, and that are generally
good dances for beginners?
Thanks for your suggestions,
Rickey Holt,
Fremont, NH
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From: callers-bounces(a)sharedweight.net
[mailto:callers-bounces@sharedweight.net] On Behalf Of Dan Pearl
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 3:21 PM
To: callers(a)sharedweight.net
Subject: Re: [Callers] Heys for new dancers
Yes, Flirtation Reel is a lovely dance, but there are a few things about it
which make it a bit less than ideal for dancers' first exposure to heys.
First, the transition from the up-the-center to the hey provides no
momentum/flow guidance about which shoulder to pass to start the hey. For
the first hey dance, I'd prefer one with stronger flow at the moment of
initiation.
Second, the series of passes (NR, 2's L, Same sex R, 1's L, etc.) is not
only different from most heys (which have same-sex in the center [because
they are equal dances]), but the series of passes seems to be a bit harder
to grasp in the same way that the differing roles of unequal dances bumps up
the complexity of the sequence a bit.
For my money, a hey dance that satisfies my requirements is a modified "Roll
in the Hey". The original is:
A1 circle left; swing neighbour
A2 circle left three quarters; swing partner
B1 long lines go forward and back; half ladies chain across
B2 hey for four, ladies pass right to start Lately, I have been calling it
A1 Dosido neighbor; swing neighbor. This is much more forgiving than the
Hey/Circle (full) left combination.
This dance features a Ladies Chain immediately before the hey, and the
women's track is essentially the same as the hey. I use this similarity when
I walk through the dance.
Dan
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4:36 p.m.
New subject: Heys for new dancers
I like Chart Gutherie's *Hay in the Barn* for the introductory half hey.
Gene Hubert's *Butter* for the full hey.
Bob
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Rickey Holt <holt.e(a)comcast.net> wrote:
Hey all,
Can you think of other dances that meet all or most of the criteria that
have been listed in this thread, including Dan's, and that are generally
good dances for beginners?
Thanks for your suggestions,
Rickey Holt,
Fremont, NH
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From: callers-bounces(a)sharedweight.net
[mailto:callers-bounces@sharedweight.net] On Behalf Of Dan Pearl
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 3:21 PM
To: callers(a)sharedweight.net
Subject: Re: [Callers] Heys for new dancers
Yes, Flirtation Reel is a lovely dance, but there are a few things about it
which make it a bit less than ideal for dancers' first exposure to heys.
First, the transition from the up-the-center to the hey provides no
momentum/flow guidance about which shoulder to pass to start the hey. For
the first hey dance, I'd prefer one with stronger flow at the moment of
initiation.
Second, the series of passes (NR, 2's L, Same sex R, 1's L, etc.) is not
only different from most heys (which have same-sex in the center [because
they are equal dances]), but the series of passes seems to be a bit harder
to grasp in the same way that the differing roles of unequal dances bumps
up
the complexity of the sequence a bit.
For my money, a hey dance that satisfies my requirements is a modified
"Roll
in the Hey". The original is:
A1 circle left; swing neighbour
A2 circle left three quarters; swing partner
B1 long lines go forward and back; half ladies chain across
B2 hey for four, ladies pass right to start Lately, I have been calling it
A1 Dosido neighbor; swing neighbor. This is much more forgiving than the
Hey/Circle (full) left combination.
This dance features a Ladies Chain immediately before the hey, and the
women's track is essentially the same as the hey. I use this similarity
when
I walk through the dance.
Dan
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20 Feb
20 Feb
10:18 a.m.
New subject: Heys for new dancers
I'll cheerfully plug my own dance, which I've been using to introduce the
hey for some years now. You'd think that the fact that it's often the
first Becket dance of the evening would complicate matters, but the
progression in this dance is amazingly forgiving. (It helps that the
give-and-take + swing sets of that left-diagonal circle to be just barely
on the left diagonal.)
Grant's Give & Take (Becket, '99)
---------------------------------
==== ======== =======
A1. \(8) Circle left (bucksaw)
.. \(8) L chain
A2. \(16) Hey (women start passing right shoulders)
B1. \(16) N swing
B2. \(4) Give-and-take: Long lines go forward, men bring back P
.. \(12) P swing
A1. \(8) Left-diagonal circle left
==== ======== =======
Notes:
1. In A1 the first time through the dance couples circle left with
the couple directly across from them. After the first time through,
the circle left is with the couple on the *left diagonal* (a
*bucksaw* progression).
2. In the Give-and-take the lines go forward two steps, partners take
hands, the man gently pulls his partner to him while the lady
ever-so-briefly resists and then acquiesces ("please don't lead me
into that briar patch..."). In principle the give-and-take should
only require four beats of music, allowing partners to have a 12-beat
swing, but it rarely works out that way. My view is that the issue
of timing is essentially between the dancers and their partners.
-Grant-
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Bob Green <bobgreen(a)swbell.net> wrote:
I like Chart Gutherie's *Hay in the Barn* for the
introductory half hey.
Gene Hubert's *Butter* for the full hey.
Bob
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Rickey Holt <holt.e(a)comcast.net> wrote:
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Hey all,
Can you think of other dances that meet all or most of the criteria that
have been listed in this thread, including Dan's, and that are generally
good dances for beginners?
Thanks for your suggestions,
Rickey Holt,
Fremont, NH
-----Original Message-----
From: callers-bounces(a)sharedweight.net
[mailto:callers-bounces@sharedweight.net] On Behalf Of Dan Pearl
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 3:21 PM
To: callers(a)sharedweight.net
Subject: Re: [Callers] Heys for new dancers
Yes, Flirtation Reel is a lovely dance, but there are a few things about
it
which make it a bit less than ideal for
dancers' first exposure to heys.
First, the transition from the up-the-center to the hey provides no
momentum/flow guidance about which shoulder to pass to start the hey.
For
the first hey dance, I'd prefer one with
stronger flow at the moment of
initiation.
Second, the series of passes (NR, 2's L, Same sex R, 1's L, etc.) is not
only different from most heys (which have same-sex in the center [because
they are equal dances]), but the series of passes seems to be a bit
harder
to grasp in the same way that the differing roles
of unequal dances bumps
up
the complexity of the sequence a bit.
For my money, a hey dance that satisfies my requirements is a modified
"Roll
in the Hey". The original is:
A1 circle left; swing neighbour
A2 circle left three quarters; swing partner
B1 long lines go forward and back; half ladies chain across
B2 hey for four, ladies pass right to start Lately, I have been calling
it
A1 Dosido neighbor; swing neighbor. This is
much more forgiving than
the
Hey/Circle (full) left combination.
This dance features a Ladies Chain immediately before the hey, and the
women's track is essentially the same as the hey. I use this similarity
when
I walk through the dance.
Dan
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22 Feb
22 Feb
9:15 p.m.
New subject: Heys for new dancers
Long time listener, first-time caller.
Bad puns aside, one of my favorite dances for a half-hey is:
Pride of Charlottesville by Seth Tepfer
http://www.dancerhapsody.com/Calling/Dances.html#PrideCville
The dance has good flow without being dizzying. The dance is easy to call,
simple for beginners, but not boring for the experienced set.
As to the 3/8ths of a hey (WR, NL, Men R), just as the ladies are not
across the set at the moment that they pass each other, the men are not
across the set at the moment they pass each other. If the gentlemen
continue all the way to the proper ending-point for the hey instead of
shortcutting to their partner, all the music will be used up, the balance
will be on-time and the day will be saved.
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24 Feb
24 Feb
3:04 a.m.
New subject: Heys for new dancers
Hi Ryan,
On 23/02/2012 4:15 p.m., Ryan Smith wrote:
Long time listener, first-time caller.
Bad puns aside, one of my favorite dances for a half-hey is:
Pride of Charlottesville by Seth Tepfer
http://www.dancerhapsody.com/Calling/Dances.html#PrideCville
The dance has good flow without being dizzying. The dance is easy to call,
simple for beginners, but not boring for the experienced set.
Looks like a nice dance
As to the 3/8ths of a hey (WR, NL, Men R), just as the
ladies are not
across the set at the moment that they pass each other, the men are not
across the set at the moment they pass each other. If the gentlemen
continue all the way to the proper ending-point for the hey instead of
shortcutting to their partner, all the music will be used up, the balance
will be on-time and the day will be saved.
Sounds like you are recommending a 1/2 hey,
although Jim cited video shows dancers using the allotted time for a 3/8 hey.
Cheers, Bill
27 Feb
27 Feb
2:51 p.m.
New subject: Heys for new dancers
I have seen a few people using a modification of "The Reunion" by Gene
Hubert as an introduction to the Hey.
The original is:
*The Reunion*-- Gene Hubert*Becket*
*A1*Left Diagonal Ladies Chain
Straight Across Ladies Chain
*A2*Straight across Hey
*B1*look for your partner in the next Hey -- P B&S
*B2*Circle Left .75
Pass Thru, Circle Right .75
But if you make the A1 just a ladies chain over and back, then you can
then illustrate the Hey by pointing out that the ladies have just walked
the path of the next move. At the same time, it's still an interesting
dance. Note that the original is double progression, but the
modification is not.
Jack
On 2/19/2012 4:03 PM, Rickey Holt wrote:
Hey all,
Can you think of other dances that meet all or most of the criteria that
have been listed in this thread, including Dan's, and that are generally
good dances for beginners?
Thanks for your suggestions,
Rickey Holt,
Fremont, NH
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From: callers-bounces(a)sharedweight.net
[mailto:callers-bounces@sharedweight.net] On Behalf Of Dan Pearl
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 3:21 PM
To: callers(a)sharedweight.net
Subject: Re: [Callers] Heys for new dancers
Yes, Flirtation Reel is a lovely dance, but there are a few things about it
which make it a bit less than ideal for dancers' first exposure to heys.
First, the transition from the up-the-center to the hey provides no
momentum/flow guidance about which shoulder to pass to start the hey. For
the first hey dance, I'd prefer one with stronger flow at the moment of
initiation.
Second, the series of passes (NR, 2's L, Same sex R, 1's L, etc.) is not
only different from most heys (which have same-sex in the center [because
they are equal dances]), but the series of passes seems to be a bit harder
to grasp in the same way that the differing roles of unequal dances bumps up
the complexity of the sequence a bit.
For my money, a hey dance that satisfies my requirements is a modified "Roll
in the Hey". The original is:
A1 circle left; swing neighbour
A2 circle left three quarters; swing partner
B1 long lines go forward and back; half ladies chain across
B2 hey for four, ladies pass right to start Lately, I have been calling it
A1 Dosido neighbor; swing neighbor. This is much more forgiving than the
Hey/Circle (full) left combination.
This dance features a Ladies Chain immediately before the hey, and the
women's track is essentially the same as the hey. I use this similarity when
I walk through the dance.
Dan
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2:58 p.m.
New subject: Heys for new dancers
Just to clarify... The A1 becomes a straight across ladies chain over
and back, so your partner is in the same hey with you and you meet them
back on the side of the set after going through the Hey. Would think
that would be self explanatory, but realized when I read the message
after it posted that it might not have been as clear to others....
J
On 2/27/2012 3:51 PM, Jack Mitchell wrote:
I have seen a few people using a modification of
"The Reunion" by Gene
Hubert as an introduction to the Hey.
The original is:
*The Reunion*-- Gene Hubert*Becket*
*A1*Left Diagonal Ladies Chain
Straight Across Ladies Chain
*A2*Straight across Hey
*B1*look for your partner in the next Hey -- P B&S
*B2*Circle Left .75
Pass Thru, Circle Right .75
But if you make the A1 just a ladies chain over and back, then you can
then illustrate the Hey by pointing out that the ladies have just
walked the path of the next move. At the same time, it's still an
interesting dance. Note that the original is double progression, but
the modification is not.
Jack
On 2/19/2012 4:03 PM, Rickey Holt wrote:
Hey all,
Can you think of other dances that meet all or most of the criteria
that
have been listed in this thread, including Dan's, and that are generally
good dances for beginners?
Thanks for your suggestions,
Rickey Holt,
Fremont, NH
-----Original Message-----
From: callers-bounces(a)sharedweight.net
[mailto:callers-bounces@sharedweight.net] On Behalf Of Dan Pearl
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 3:21 PM
To: callers(a)sharedweight.net
Subject: Re: [Callers] Heys for new dancers
Yes, Flirtation Reel is a lovely dance, but there are a few things
about it
which make it a bit less than ideal for dancers' first exposure to heys.
First, the transition from the up-the-center to the hey provides no
momentum/flow guidance about which shoulder to pass to start the
hey. For
the first hey dance, I'd prefer one with stronger flow at the moment of
initiation.
Second, the series of passes (NR, 2's L, Same sex R, 1's L, etc.) is not
only different from most heys (which have same-sex in the center
[because
they are equal dances]), but the series of passes seems to be a bit
harder
to grasp in the same way that the differing roles of unequal dances
bumps up
the complexity of the sequence a bit.
For my money, a hey dance that satisfies my requirements is a
modified "Roll
in the Hey". The original is:
A1 circle left; swing neighbour
A2 circle left three quarters; swing partner
B1 long lines go forward and back; half ladies chain across
B2 hey for four, ladies pass right to start Lately, I have been
calling it
A1 Dosido neighbor; swing neighbor. This is much more forgiving
than the
Hey/Circle (full) left combination.
This dance features a Ladies Chain immediately before the hey, and the
women's track is essentially the same as the hey. I use this
similarity when
I walk through the dance.
Dan
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