11 Jul
2015
11 Jul
'15
1:57 p.m.
Becket
A1 Circle L 3/4; bal, CA twirl
A2 N bal/swing
B1 Hey for 4, M start R
B2 M cross, P swing
Thanks!
Keith Tuxhorn
Austin TX
11 Jul
11 Jul
2:04 p.m.
Keith,
I don't have a title or author for the dance you ask about,
but I hae a question. Are you sure you mean
B1 Hey for 4, M start R
? When men start a hey after a swing, I think it's much
more common for them to start by left shoulders than by
right.
--Jim
> On Jul 11, 2015, at 10:57 AM, Keith Tuxhorn via Callers
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> Becket
>
> A1 Circle L 3/4; bal, CA twirl
> A2 N bal/swing
B1 Hey for 4, M start R
> B2 M cross, P
swing
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> Thanks!
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2:30 p.m.
Also it appears to progress backwards as noted - shouldn't it be
Becket-CCW/Right instead?
-Don
On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 2:04 PM, James Saxe via Callers <
callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Keith,
I don't have a title or author for the dance you ask about,
but I hae a question. Are you sure you mean
B1 Hey for 4, M start R
? When men start a hey after a swing, I think it's much
more common for them to start by left shoulders than by
right.
--Jim
2:55 p.m.
Instead of an odd progression, I'd just start the dance at the A2 and make
it duple improper.
N B+S (4,12)
Hey (GL, PR, LL, NR) (16)
Gents cross L (2)
PS (14)
Circle L 3/4 (8, forgiving)
Bal Ring, Cali Twirl (4,4)
It's a nice simple Hey dance with two swings. Why complicate it with
unnecessary CCW Becket progression in the A1 when you can do a duple Imp
with a B2 progression?
Buy I suspect this one has to have been written already, no?
Ron Blechner
On Jul 11, 2015 2:32 PM, "Don Veino via Callers" <
callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Also it appears to progress backwards as noted -
shouldn't it be
Becket-CCW/Right instead?
-Don
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Keith,
I don't have a title or author for the dance you ask about,
but I hae a question. Are you sure you mean
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B1 Hey for 4, M start R
? When men start a hey after a swing, I think it's much
more common for them to start by left shoulders than by
right.
--Jim
3:09 p.m.
Duple Improper version:
A Piece O' Cake by Carol Kopp
On Jul 11, 2015, at 11:55 AM, Ron Blechner via Callers wrote:
Instead of an odd progression, I'd just start the
dance at the A2 and make it duple improper.
N B+S (4,12)
Hey (GL, PR, LL, NR) (16)
Gents cross L (2)
PS (14)
Circle L 3/4 (8, forgiving)
Bal Ring, Cali Twirl (4,4)
It's a nice simple Hey dance with two swings. Why complicate it with unnecessary CCW
Becket progression in the A1 when you can do a duple Imp with a B2 progression?
Buy I suspect this one has to have been written already, no?
Ron Blechner
On Jul 11, 2015 2:32 PM, "Don Veino via Callers"
<callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Also it appears to progress backwards as noted - shouldn't it be Becket-CCW/Right
instead?
-Don
On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 2:04 PM, James Saxe via Callers
<callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Keith,
I don't have a title or author for the dance you ask about,
but I hae a question. Are you sure you mean
B1 Hey for 4, M start R
? When men start a hey after a swing, I think it's much
more common for them to start by left shoulders than by
right.
--Jim
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3:42 p.m.
Thanks, this will probably go into my box for an easy Hey dance.
On Jul 11, 2015 3:09 PM, "Martha Wild via Callers" <
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Duple Improper version:
A Piece O' Cake by Carol Kopp
On Jul 11, 2015, at 11:55 AM, Ron Blechner via Callers wrote:
Instead of an odd progression, I'd just start the dance at the A2 and make
it duple improper.
N B+S (4,12)
Hey (GL, PR, LL, NR) (16)
Gents cross L (2)
PS (14)
Circle L 3/4 (8, forgiving)
Bal Ring, Cali Twirl (4,4)
It's a nice simple Hey dance with two swings. Why complicate it with
unnecessary CCW Becket progression in the A1 when you can do a duple Imp
with a B2 progression?
Buy I suspect this one has to have been written already, no?
Ron Blechner
On Jul 11, 2015 2:32 PM, "Don Veino via Callers" <
callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Also it appears to progress backwards as noted -
shouldn't it be
Becket-CCW/Right instead?
-Don
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Keith,
I don't have a title or author for the dance you ask about,
but I hae a question. Are you sure you mean
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? When men start a hey after a swing, I think it's much
more common for them to start by left shoulders than by
right.
--Jim
5:46 p.m.
This is a very fine improper dance by Carol Kopp, and it's called Piece of Cake - Bob
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2015 15:42:55 -0400
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Thanks, this will probably go into my box for an easy Hey dance.
On Jul 11, 2015 3:09 PM, "Martha Wild via Callers"
<callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Duple Improper version:A Piece O' Cake by Carol Kopp
On Jul 11, 2015, at 11:55 AM, Ron Blechner via Callers wrote:
Instead of an odd progression, I'd just start the dance at the A2 and make it duple
improper.N B+S (4,12)
Hey (GL, PR, LL, NR) (16)
Gents cross L (2)
PS (14)
Circle L 3/4 (8, forgiving)
Bal Ring, Cali Twirl (4,4)It's a nice simple Hey dance with two swings. Why complicate
it with unnecessary CCW Becket progression in the A1 when you can do a duple Imp with a B2
progression?Buy I suspect this one has to have been written already, no?Ron Blechner
On Jul 11, 2015 2:32 PM, "Don Veino via Callers"
<callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Also it appears to progress backwards as noted - shouldn't it be Becket-CCW/Right
instead?
-Don
On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 2:04 PM, James Saxe via Callers
<callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Keith,
I don't have a title or author for the dance you ask about,
but I hae a question. Are you sure you mean
B1 Hey for 4, M start R
? When men start a hey after a swing, I think it's much
more common for them to start by left shoulders than by
right.
--Jim
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12 Jul
12 Jul
3:15 a.m.
I called it tonight in Houston, Becketized, corrected to M pass L,
otherwise just like I wrote it waaaay up at the top. It worked fine.
So, thanks to Martha and Bob, I wonder if this dance Is "Piece of Cake",
but, thanks to the video I saw, with the band timing where it was, it just
appears to be a slightly different dance...?
Keith/Austin
On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Bob Isaacs via Callers <
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This is a very fine *improper* dance by Carol Kopp,
and it's called Piece
of Cake - Bob
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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2015 15:42:55 -0400
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Thanks, this will probably go into my box for an easy Hey dance.
On Jul 11, 2015 3:09 PM, "Martha Wild via Callers" <
callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Duple Improper version:
A Piece O' Cake by Carol Kopp
On Jul 11, 2015, at 11:55 AM, Ron Blechner via Callers wrote:
Instead of an odd progression, I'd just start the dance at the A2 and make
it duple improper.
N B+S (4,12)
Hey (GL, PR, LL, NR) (16)
Gents cross L (2)
PS (14)
Circle L 3/4 (8, forgiving)
Bal Ring, Cali Twirl (4,4)
It's a nice simple Hey dance with two swings. Why complicate it with
unnecessary CCW Becket progression in the A1 when you can do a duple Imp
with a B2 progression?
Buy I suspect this one has to have been written already, no?
Ron Blechner
On Jul 11, 2015 2:32 PM, "Don Veino via Callers" <
callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Also it appears to progress backwards as noted - shouldn't it be
Becket-CCW/Right instead?
-Don
On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 2:04 PM, James Saxe via Callers <
callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Keith,
I don't have a title or author for the dance you ask about,
but I hae a question. Are you sure you mean
B1 Hey for 4, M start R
? When men start a hey after a swing, I think it's much
more common for them to start by left shoulders than by
right.
--Jim
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9:01 a.m.
Keith,
You probably missed my response. The Becket dance you refer to was
written by me and is called The Host. I'm embarrassed that I took
credit for The Host since it really isn't original. I just never
figured out that it was the same as Piece of Cake until Martha
mentioned it. So I'd say yes the dance you called is Piece of
Cake. In my mind the first one who writes the dance get the credit
and variations like this are not original compositions.
T
10:22 a.m.
I did get you earlier message, Tom, and now I understand it.
Thanks to everyone for your help!
Keith/Austin
On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 8:01 AM, Tom Hinds <twhinds(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
Keith,
You probably missed my response. The Becket dance you refer to was
written by me and is called The Host. I'm embarrassed that I took credit
for The Host since it really isn't original. I just never figured out that
it was the same as Piece of Cake until Martha mentioned it. So I'd say
yes the dance you called is Piece of Cake. In my mind the first one who
writes the dance get the credit and variations like this are not original
compositions.
T
1:41 p.m.
On Writing Dances that have been Written:
Years ago our we danced Bill Cochran's:
/Third Friday/
A1 Neighbor Balance & Swing
A2 Down Hall 4 in Line, Turn as Couple, Return, Fold Line
B1 Women Chan -- over & back
B2 Partner Balance, Square Thru Two, Partner Balance, Square Thru Two
to next Neighbor
I loved the B2 move, but wanted a partner swing in the dance, so I made the:
/Second Third Friday/
Improper
Erik Hoffman
A1 Neighbor Balance & Swing
A2 Men Allemande Left 1½; Partner Swing
B1 Right & Left Thru Across the set; Women chain back
B2 Partner Balance, Square Thru Two, Partner Balance, Square Thru Two
to next Neighbor.
And, I published it in my first book, Contra Comments.
Turns out Tony Parkes had the same idea, and he wrote:
/Friday Night Fever/
with the only difference being the B2, where Tony's dance goes:
B2 Partner Promenade; Women Chain
-- Which I now like better. And, Tony wrote his dance prior to me
Tony published it in one of his books (don't recall which)
Turns out Myrtle Wilhite also wrote and published this dance, the same
as my version, and called it /Balanced Out #2/
In looking at composition dates, Tony's came first, mine second, and Ms.
Wilhite's third -- all in the late 80s or early 90s.
I'm pretty sure we all came out with this dance independently. Both Tony
and I attribute Bill Cochran for the basic Idea. Myrtle doesn't, so,
perhaps she came up with the dance independently.
But the point of this is, we choreographers are all bound to put
together some dance that someone else has also come up with. At this
point, it's great to have this list to check that a sequence is
original. It goes a long way to checking this.
~erik hoffman
oakland, ca
On 7/12/2015 6:01 AM, Tom Hinds via Callers wrote:
Keith,
You probably missed my response. The Becket dance you refer to was
written by me and is called The Host. I'm embarrassed that I took
credit for The Host since it really isn't original. I just never
figured out that it was the same as Piece of Cake until Martha
mentioned it. So I'd say yes the dance you called is Piece of Cake.
In my mind the first one who writes the dance get the credit and
variations like this are not original compositions.
T
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3:19 p.m.
Thanks for pointing that out Martha. I never would have published/
taken credit for The Host had I realized they were the same.
T
On Jul 11, 2015, at 2:55 PM, Ron Blechner via Callers wrote:
Instead of an odd progression, I'd just start the
dance at the A2
and make it duple improper.
N B+S (4,12)
Hey (GL, PR, LL, NR) (16)
Gents cross L (2)
PS (14)
Circle L 3/4 (8, forgiving)
Bal Ring, Cali Twirl (4,4)
It's a nice simple Hey dance with two swings. Why complicate it
with unnecessary CCW Becket progression in the A1 when you can do a
duple Imp with a B2 progression?
Buy I suspect this one has to have been written already, no?
Ron Blechner
On Jul 11, 2015 2:32 PM, "Don Veino via Callers"
<callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Also it appears to progress backwards as noted - shouldn't it be
Becket-CCW/Right instead?
-Don
On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 2:04 PM, James Saxe via Callers
<callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Keith,
I don't have a title or author for the dance you ask about,
but I hae a question. Are you sure you mean
B1 Hey for 4, M start R
? When men start a hey after a swing, I think it's much
more common for them to start by left shoulders than by
right.
--Jim
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