New subject: New Dance

16 Apr 2010

I love this new dance by Rich Goss.  Personally the dance in it's  
original form looks like fun with moves that are very interesting.    
There's several reasons I wouldn't add the cast off.  I don't think   
the transition from coming up the hall into a hey is that awkward.   
Secondly, a cast off would add to the complexity of the dance (and  
add to the amount of time walking it through).  It already has enough  
complexity to be fun.   Third, I believe the cast off would make the  
dance flow better for the number one woman, but create lousy flow for  
the number two woman.  So we solve one problem and creat another.  Or  
perhaps the suggestion is to have everyone cast of in a counter- 
clockwise direction.  Then we introduce some crazy timing issues i.e.  
one couple casts three-quarters while the other casts once and a  
quarter.  Is that what we are suggesting here?

Tom

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 That's what I had in mind.

 J

 On 4/15/2010 11:52 AM, Gary Shapiro wrote:
  On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 8:31 AM,
richgoss-at-comcast.net wrote:

  I don't think there would be enough time for
a hand cast.

 The hand cast or gate or wheel around should take place in A2:

 A2: Down hall 4-in-line (4), turn as couples (4); return (4),  
 wheel around
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 The hand cast or gate or wheel around should take place in A2:

 A2: Down hall 4-in-line (4), turn as couples (4); return (4), wheel  
 around
 (M back up)

 Isn't the usual timing for a down the hall:? down in 4 (6), turn  
 (4), return (6) ?

 I like what you are proposing though.

 Rich

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 When I've done a dance with a hand cast out of the back up the hall,
 it's generally ended up

 Down the hall (4 and a bit)
 Turn (4 less a bit)
 Return (4 and a bit)
 Cast (4 less a bit)

 The timing can be a bit flexible.  In addition, the cast will flow  
 right
 into the Hey and so that timing will be a bit squishy too.

 Jack
 On 4/15/2010 12:52 PM, richgoss(a)comcast.net wrote:
  Isn't the usual timing for a down the hall: 
down in 4 (6), turn  
 (4), return (6) ?

 I like what you are proposing though.

 Rich

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 Seems like a good change to the dance.? Thanks!

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 When I've done a dance with a hand cast out of the back up the hall,
 it's generally ended up

 Down the hall (4 and a bit)
 Turn (4 less a bit)
 Return (4 and a bit)
 Cast (4 less a bit)

 The timing can be a bit flexible. ?In addition, the cast will flow  
 right
 into the Hey and so that timing will be a bit squishy too.

 Jack

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 Here is the new dance with changes from Jack, and clarification on  
 the zig-zag:

 Betty?s Night Out ? Rich Goss ???? Improper, Double Prog

 A1: ? Neighbor Dosido and Swing (end facing down hall)
 A2: ? Down hall 4-in-line(4), turn as couples(4); Return(4), hand  
 cast (gents backing up, ladies walking forward) to send the ladies  
 in to start the half hey?

 B1: 1/2 Hey, Gents Ricochet Back (Ladies cross rt sh) Partner swing
 B2: Circle Left 3/4, As Couples, zig left?past current N, zag right  
 around next N, zig left to couple #3 (to start A1 Dosido)

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 Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 18:45:31 +0000
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 I would refer to the action by saying "as couples, weave past two  
 couples, finish facing 3rd couple".  Of course, I come from a  
 square dance background where we "weave the ring".  This would  
 merely be a derivation of that call.

 What I'm not clear on is the richochet. I've heard the term, but am  
 not sure of the execution. Care to elaborate?

 Thanks,

 Ron Nelson

 Chula Vista, CA

  Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 07:15:55 -0700
 From: richgoss(a)comcast.net
 To: callers(a)sharedweight.net
 Subject: Re: [Callers] Callers Digest, Vol 68, Issue 12- new dance

 Right. Another way to describe it would be:
 As couples zig-zag past 2 N couples, moving left around #1  
 (current), right
 around #2, face the #3 (to A1: dosido).

 Let me know how it goes if you call it.

 Rich

 On 4/15/10 6:46 AM, "Ruth Pershing" &lt;rpershing(a)mindspring.com&gt; wrote:

  Rich ~

 I don't know the answer to your question about whether the dance has
 been written, but could you explain the B2 zig-zag figure? Does it
 mean that as a couple, you pass by the next couple to the left  
 (women
 pass), then next couple by the right (men pass) and the next by the
 left (women pass), then get ready to do-si-do a new neighbor for the
 next time through?

 I might try it this weekend. Thanks,

 ~Ruth, Chapel Hill NC

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  From: Rich Goss &lt;richgoss(a)comcast.net&gt;
 Date: April 14, 2010 10:15:21 AM EDT
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 Wrote this dance recently in honor of one of our dancers who
 recently passed
 away, Betty Stewart. Has this one already been written?

 Betty?s Night Out Rich Goss
 Improper, Double Prog

 A1: Neighbor Dosido and Swing (end facing down hall)
 A2: Down hall 4-in-line, turn as couples; Return, face across
 B1: 1/2 Hey, Gents Ricochet Back (Ladies cross rt sh)
 Partner swing
 B2: Circle Left 3/4
 As Couples, zig left, zag right, zig left

 Rich, Portland Or

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 The ladies perform the 1/2 hey, crossing the set.?

 The gents start the 1/2 hey, but meet in the center, touch hands,  
 and bounce back (or Richochet) ?to their same side.

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 I would refer to the action by saying "as couples, weave past two  
 couples, finish facing 3rd couple". ?Of course, I come from a  
 square dance background where we "weave the ring". ?This would  
 merely be a derivation of that call.

 ?

 What I'm not clear on is the richochet. I've heard the term, but am  
 not sure of the execution. Care to elaborate?

 ?

 Thanks,

 ?

 Ron Nelson

 Chula Vista, CA
 ?
  Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 07:15:55 -0700
 From: richgoss(a)comcast.net
 To: callers(a)sharedweight.net
 Subject: Re: [Callers] Callers Digest, Vol 68, Issue 12- new dance

 Right. Another way to describe it would be:
 As couples zig-zag past 2 N couples, moving left around #1  
 (current), right
 around #2, face the #3 (to A1: dosido).

 Let me know how it goes if you call it.

 Rich

 On 4/15/10 6:46 AM, "Ruth Pershing" &lt;rpershing(a)mindspring.com&gt; wrote:

  Rich ~

 I don't know the answer to your question about whether the dance has
 been written, but could you explain the B2 zig-zag figure? Does it
 mean that as a couple, you pass by the next couple to the left  
 (women
 pass), then next couple by the right (men pass) and the next by the
 left (women pass), then get ready to do-si-do a new neighbor for the
 next time through?

 I might try it this weekend. Thanks,

 ~Ruth, Chapel Hill NC

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  From: Rich Goss &lt;richgoss(a)comcast.net&gt;
 Date: April 14, 2010 10:15:21 AM EDT
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 Subject: [Callers] New Dance
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 Wrote this dance recently in honor of one of our dancers who
 recently passed
 away, Betty Stewart. Has this one already been written?

 Betty?s Night Out Rich Goss
 Improper, Double Prog

 A1: Neighbor Dosido and Swing (end facing down hall)
 A2: Down hall 4-in-line, turn as couples; Return, face across
 B1: 1/2 Hey, Gents Ricochet Back (Ladies cross rt sh)
 Partner swing
 B2: Circle Left 3/4
 As Couples, zig left, zag right, zig left

 Rich, Portland Or

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 Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 15:00:54 -0400
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 Start a hey, ladies pass R, pass P by L on outside, gents meet and  
 then
 bounce back to end up on their partner's left for the swing (it can be
 nice if the lady catches her partner for the swing.

 J

 On 4/15/2010 2:45 PM, Ron Nelson wrote:
  I would refer to the action by saying "as
couples, weave past two  
 couples, finish facing 3rd couple".  Of course, I come from a  
 square dance background where we "weave the ring".  This would  
 merely be a derivation of that call.

 What I'm not clear on is the richochet. I've heard the term, but  
 am not sure of the execution. Care to elaborate?

 Thanks,

 Ron Nelson

 Chula Vista, CA

  Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 07:15:55 -0700
 From: richgoss(a)comcast.net
 To: callers(a)sharedweight.net
 Subject: Re: [Callers] Callers Digest, Vol 68, Issue 12- new dance

 Right. Another way to describe it would be:
 As couples zig-zag past 2 N couples, moving left around #1  
 (current), right
 around #2, face the #3 (to A1: dosido).

 Let me know how it goes if you call it.

 Rich

 On 4/15/10 6:46 AM, "Ruth Pershing&quot;&lt;rpershing(a)mindspring.com&gt;   
 wrote:

  Rich ~

 I don't know the answer to your question about whether the dance  
 has
 been written, but could you explain the B2 zig-zag figure? Does it
 mean that as a couple, you pass by the next couple to the left  
 (women
 pass), then next couple by the right (men pass) and the next by the
 left (women pass), then get ready to do-si-do a new neighbor for  
 the
 next time through?

 I might try it this weekend. Thanks,

 ~Ruth, Chapel Hill NC

 On Apr 14, 2010, at 11:57 AM, callers-request(a)sharedweight.net  
 wrote:

> From: Rich Goss&lt;richgoss(a)comcast.net&gt;
> Date: April 14, 2010 10:15:21 AM EDT
> To: Shared Weight&lt;callers(a)sharedweight.net&gt;
> Subject: [Callers] New Dance
> Reply-To: Caller's discussion list&lt;callers(a)sharedweight.net&gt;
>
>
> Wrote this dance recently in honor of one of our dancers who
> recently passed
> away, Betty Stewart. Has this one already been written?
>
> Betty?s Night Out Rich Goss
> Improper, Double Prog
>
> A1: Neighbor Dosido and Swing (end facing down hall)
> A2: Down hall 4-in-line, turn as couples; Return, face across
> B1: 1/2 Hey, Gents Ricochet Back (Ladies cross rt sh)
> Partner swing
> B2: Circle Left 3/4
> As Couples, zig left, zag right, zig left
>
>
> Rich, Portland Or
>
>
>
>
>
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 Don't forget that the registration deadline for the Callers Workshop
 with Lisa Greenleaf is coming up.  At this point, we're about half  
 full,
 and I expect more registrations to be coming in over the next week or
 so.  If you've been planning to send in your registration and haven't
 sent it yet, please get it in soon.

 The workshop will be the weekend of May 21-23, held at a variety of
 locations in the Chapel Hill area.  We will get started on Friday
 evening around 7:00 for an opening gathering, will meet all day  
 (8:30 -
 4:30) on Saturday, have a dance Saturday evening, and then wrap up  
 with
 a Sunday brunch and closing discussion on Sunday from 11:00 - 2:00  
 or so.

 The registration form can be downloaded here:
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