We danced this at Memfest this year with George Marshall and Wild Asparagus. (Not sure how many other dances there could be with the backing up in lines of 4 and the turn single, surely it's this one?) I'm glad to know now what this move is called as I really enjoyed it, and this dance. But, I'm not remembering it taking up an entire 4 counts in this dance. The music, calling, and space all played into that. Nobody minds getting into a neighbor balance and swing a bit early; lines were cramped. I know my partner and I had fun rolling off each others shoulders and into the arms of a neighbor. But that was just my point of view. Maybe some others we danced with were frustrated by the lack of space. At the end of A1 you are backing up (beep. beep. beep.) and there is a bit of a pause with the dancers as they remember to back up and then bend the line in a slightly different formation. Maybe if you called the last 8 counts of A1 as, "up the hall, turn alone, BACK-UP the hall into a ring" you would have the 4 counts in A2 for a statelier cloverleaf single. JMHO Alison in Memphis -- Nancy Turner <nancyturner(a)madriver.com> wrote: Hi All, Two questions. First, I'm looking at Sue Rosen's Handsome Young Maids and it includes a Clover-leaf turn single (Ladies turn over left shoulder, Gents Rt). In this move, it appears that both the ladies and the gents spin around themselves, with the ladies going around their left shoulders while the gents go around the right shoulders... they then meet for a balance and swing. Is this right? Here's the dance, so you can see it in context: A1: Lines of 4: Down 4 steps, turn alone Rejoin line, 4 steps down (going backwards) Up 4 steps, turn alone Up 4 steps (backwards) A2: Bend the line, cirlce left 1x, balance the ring Clover-leaf turn single B1: Neighbor B&Swing B2: LLFB, One's only Partner Swing (end facing down between new Neighbors) Second question: I'm looking for a copy of Sa-Sa-La-Do. Does anyone know it? Thanks very much, Nancy Turner Vermont _______________________________________________ Callers mailing list Callers(a)sharedweight.net http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers