Re: Shenandoah Falls We play that tune a lot for dances, and I've never noticed any problem with it. As a caller/musician, I usually choose a smooth flowing A part dance to match the tune to. Similar to Richard below, at least the way we do the B part, I often choose it to go with a petronella dance like Citronella Morning or Salmonella. Martha Wild On Aug 21, 2009, at 9:00 AM, callers-request(a)sharedweight.net wrote: > Send Callers mailing list submissions to > callers(a)sharedweight.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > callers-request(a)sharedweight.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > callers-owner(a)sharedweight.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Callers digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Chicago Contra Dance Leadership Weekend with Lisa Greenleaf! > (Rachel Shapiro) > 2. The Frolic in the Fall - 9/26/09 in Harrisburg, PA > (Dave Colestock) > 3. Dance for Tune? Shenandoah Falls (Cynthia Phinney) > 4. Re: Dance for Tune? Shenandoah Falls (Richard Allen Fischer) > 5. Re: Dance for Tune? Shenandoah Falls (Jeff Kaufman) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:37:43 -0500 > From: Rachel Shapiro &lt;rachel.shapiro05(a)gmail.com&gt; > To: callers(a)sharedweight.net > Cc: Edward Wallace &lt;ewallace(a)uchicago.edu&gt; > Subject: [Callers] Chicago Contra Dance Leadership Weekend with Lisa > Greenleaf! > Message-ID: > &lt;dba043650908201837g136a4dbbyecf995db7b11f744(a)mail.gmail.com&gt; > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > The University of Chicago, with support from the CDSS Outreach > Fund, is > sponsoring a contra dance leadership weekend with an intensive callers > workshop led by Boston caller Lisa Greenleaf the weekend of October > 16th. > > *"Lisa *leads an intensive workshop > > designed for advanced-beginner through > > intermediate contra dance callers. It will focus > > on stage presence and teaching skills. The > > workshop runs Friday Night through Sunday > > Morning, and includes calling opportunities at > > the Saturday dance" > > callers must submit an application for this weekend in Chicago. > There are > only 10 slots available. the applications are due August 31 and > can be > found, along with the flyer, at: http://fac.uchicago.edu/ > leadership.html > > There will also be master musician classes with Pete Sutherland, Mark > Roberts, and Jeremiah McLane (Three of the five members of Clayfoot > Strutters!). > > There will be two dances this weekend, so even if you cant make the > whole > workshop, join us for a dance led by the callers on Saturday, and an > Advanced Dance led by Lisa on Sunday. > > This is not to be missed. Please email with any questions (off list, > please). > > See you there! > Rachel > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:23:23 -0700 (PDT) > From: Dave Colestock &lt;contradancerdave(a)yahoo.com&gt; > To: Shared Weight &lt;callers(a)sharedweight.net&gt; > Subject: [Callers] The Frolic in the Fall - 9/26/09 in Harrisburg, PA > Message-ID: &lt;821682.14187.qm(a)web52606.mail.re2.yahoo.com&gt; > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > > > > > > The Third Annual Frolic in the Fall.? To be held Saturday, > September 26, 2009 from 11am-11pm .? Location is the YWCA Camp > Reily, just outside of Harrisburg , PA , a 5-acre camp where we > dance in a rustic lodge with a wood floor, surrounded by Nature in > the Appalachian Mountains of PA. ??Music from?CONTRANELLA from New > York and Maryland, and THE AVANT GARDENERS from Virginia, calling > by SUSAN PETRICK, from California, and DAVE COLESTOCK, from > Pennsylvania.? > ? > The Frolic starts with an hour of Waltzing from 11-12, then Contra > Dancing from Noon-11.? There will be an HOUR LONG Dance Medley, at > about 4:30 , followed by a Pot Luck Dinner (last name A-M, dessert > or side dish; N-Z main dish, please).? Cost is $25/person, limited > to 100 dancers, advance registration highly encouraged, but walk- > ins are welcome if space is available. > ? > Dance at the Locust Lane Contra Dance on Friday 9/25/09 with GREG > FROCK calling to THE AVANT GARDENERS, then stay over at a local > motel, b&b,?or camp with us on-site.? Tent camping for Fri and Sat > nights is available for additional $15 /person.? Contact us at > Fallfrolic@yahoo. com or visit the website at > www.frolicinthefall .freeservers. com?? Download the registration > form and send?snail mail by 9/13/09 , please.? Print out the flyer > and take copies?to your local dance.? Feel free to forward this > email, and?tell all of your friends - spread the word about the > Frolic! > > ? > Thank you, and hope to see YOU at the Frolic.? > ? > Can you DANCE for an HOUR???? Come to the FROLIC and find out!!! > ? > Thanks for your interest, > Dave Colestock > ? > ? > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:40:36 -0400 > From: "Cynthia Phinney" &lt;cynth(a)gwi.net&gt; > To: "'Shared Weight'" &lt;callers(a)sharedweight.net&gt; > Subject: [Callers] Dance for Tune? Shenandoah Falls > Message-ID: <000001ca2264$f7588cd0$e609a670$@net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hello all, > > > > I've noticed on more than one occasion when Sheandoah Falls has > turned up in > a medley that the B-part of the dance falls apart (as in things not > happening in the right rhythm) and I have to call constantly until > the tune > changes. I've seen this with more than one dance. The phrasing in > the B-part > of that tune is a bit different from standard. Does anyone have a > suggestion > of a dance that might fit well with that tune? (and/or can you > think of > other tunes with similar phrasing in the B-part? Could be it's just > not a > good standard medley tune for dancing..) > > > > What do you think? > > > > -cynthia > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:46:45 -0400 > From: Richard Allen Fischer &lt;richardallenfischer(a)verizon.net&gt; > To: Caller's discussion list &lt;callers(a)sharedweight.net&gt; > Subject: Re: [Callers] Dance for Tune? Shenandoah Falls > Message-ID: &lt;EA96F8F8-30B6-444C-BC3D-ED4F93936B76(a)verizon.net&gt; > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > I've never noticed that--as a dancer, musician or caller. Shenandoah > Falls seems to work well with dances that have Petronella balances > and spins in the B part. (E.g., Tica Tica Timing or Balance to My > Lou.) > > RAF > On Aug 21, 2009, at 9:40 AM, Cynthia Phinney wrote: > >> Hello all, >> >> >> >> I've noticed on more than one occasion when Sheandoah Falls has >> turned up in >> a medley that the B-part of the dance falls apart (as in things not >> happening in the right rhythm) and I have to call constantly until >> the tune >> changes. I've seen this with more than one dance. The phrasing in >> the B-part >> of that tune is a bit different from standard. Does anyone have a >> suggestion >> of a dance that might fit well with that tune? (and/or can you >> think of >> other tunes with similar phrasing in the B-part? Could be it's just >> not a >> good standard medley tune for dancing..) >> >> >> >> What do you think? >> >> >> >> -cynthia >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Callers mailing list >> Callers(a)sharedweight.net >> http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:02:29 -0400 > From: Jeff Kaufman &lt;cbr(a)sccs.swarthmore.edu&gt; > To: 'Shared Weight' &lt;callers(a)sharedweight.net&gt; > Subject: Re: [Callers] Dance for Tune? Shenandoah Falls > Message-ID: &lt;20090821150229.GA5919(a)melfpelt.swarpa.net&gt; > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Cynthia Phinney wrote: >> >> I've noticed on more than one occasion when Sheandoah Falls has >> turned up in a medley that the B-part of the dance falls apart (as >> in things not happening in the right rhythm) and I have to call >> constantly until the tune changes. I've seen this with more than one >> dance. The phrasing in the B-part of that tune is a bit different >> from standard. >> > > Shenandoah Falls is unusual in that some of the B-part is quite > synchopated. The phrasing is still very regular, with well defined > four beat chunks, but within the chunks the beat might be difficult to > detect for some. > > So if you have a band that really wants to play shenandoah falls but > you think that the group might not be able to take it in stride, you > could call something that matches the phrasing well and lets the > dancers reenforce each other's sense of the beat. Richard's > suggestion of petronellas is good, as would any "balance for four, > move for four" sort of repetition. Balance and swing would also work > ok, as the synchopated hard to think about part comes in the middle of > the swing. > > The bigger problem is that the caller generally doesn't know what > tunes the band intends to play until the band switches tunes. So you > generally never have an oppertunity to go "oh? You'd like to play > shenandoah falls? Let me choose a dance that fits." Instead the best > you can do is probably tell the band after observing the hall that you > think it would be best if they avoided synchopated tunes like > shenandoah falls tonight. > > Jeff >