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1. Re: Callers Digest, Vol 61, Issue 6 (Laur)
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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 08:22:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Laur <lcpgr(a)yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: [Callers] Callers Digest, Vol 61, Issue 6
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Good thought.? And I liked Jack's idea of how to incorporate this in the teaching if
you had time.
When partner changing, gender swapping, we should consider if the other person in the
pairing is willing to dance with someone other than they said yes to.? I don't think
you'd get that far in the workshop (partner swap) but it is a part of play. Sometimes
at a weekend we'll have an occasional chaos line where anything goes, as I'm sure
you have done/seen too.? Key for swapping is - know what your doing, and don't put an
insecure or inexperienced person out there.
Locally we do as was already noted at regular, and even special dances - watch the line
and switch back if someone is a bit homophobic or if it will be confusing.? Knowing your
community is key.? Or get to know the community you are visiting.
The interesting thing is people don't get confused, or don't typically get
confused, if its a pair of ladies dancing together, they deal with the position.? It's
only when the genders are crossed that the eyes get crossed, or if its a pair of gents.? I
think its a good thing to help newer folks stay familiar with the position rather than the
role and rather see that than full protection from exposure.? If I see its a newer dancer
when I approach another lady I say, I'm dancing as the gent as I approach, and then
they are okay.? Sometimes newer male dancers ask me to twirl them or turn them so they can
understand how it feels.
Laurie
--- On Fri, 9/11/09, Jerome Grisanti <jerome.grisanti(a)gmail.com> wrote:
From: Jerome Grisanti <jerome.grisanti(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Callers] Callers Digest, Vol 61, Issue 6
To: callers(a)sharedweight.net
Date: Friday, September 11, 2009, 9:36 AM
Following up on Mark Galipeau's note:
In a workshop, it may be good to offer a little context on when
gender-role-swapping is appropriate (or inappropriate). For example, at most
dance weekends your neighbors will welcome or at least understand. At many
monthly dances, there are neighbors who may become confused either because
they are new, rigidly devoted to traditional gender roles, or any number of
other reasons. Some may even try to correct us (if they don't know us).
Before swapping, I look ahead in the line to be sure that our next neighbors
will be part of the "game" and not put off by it.
(Mark indicates the idea of there being a time and a place for this, I
merely offer an additional tip).
--Jerome
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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 15:27:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mark Galipeau <red72impala(a)yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: [Callers] Gender Swapping
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If the group is alert, what my dance partners and I occasionally enjoy, is
memorizing both roles in the dance, then each iteration when there is a
swing your partner, we swap gender roles.
ie: first swing I lead, then the next time we come back to swing my partner
immediately takes the lead role and swings me.? Some dances are challenging
and if the grey matter is slow, or it is late in the evening this can really
snafu the line.
?
Chris Ricciotti has a great web resouce on Gender Free Contra on this web
site.
http://www.lcfd.org/Articles/GFManual/index.html
?
Mark Galipeau
Queer Contra Dancer
We swing both ways, and then some.
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Jerome Grisanti
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And the merry love to dance. ~ William Butler Yeats
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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:43:48 -0400
From: Robert Golder <robertgolder(a)comcast.net>
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Subject: Re: [Callers] Gender Swapping - When?
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On Sep 11, 2009, at 9:57 AM, Jack Mitchell wrote:
One other thing I had thought about doing in a
workshop is to have a
few people in each line with a red ball cap or a particular shirt or
some other identifying mark,
Among the several methods of identifying dance roles without respect to
gender, the most common in New England is the LCFD (Lavender Country
and Folk Dancers) method pioneered by Chris Ricciotti in 1989 at the
Jamaica Plain (MA) dance. Chris instituted the use of an armband for
the person dancing the traditional gent's role, and no armband for the
"barearm" dancer in the traditional lady's role. Orange surveyors tape
has become the most popular material for this purpose at gender role
free events. Although "bands" and "bares" are still the terms used to
denote dance roles in place of "gents" and "ladies," sometimes the
identifying mark is no longer worn on the arm. It may be a bright
headband, or a clip-on rainbow ribbon adorning a shirt pocket; still,
the meaning is clear as you approach a new couple within a contra set.
Skillful role-free calling depends upon much more than convincing half
your dancers to wear an armband. For those who are planning to
participate in a workshop or otherwise experiment with role free
calling, I can't stress highly enough the importance of going to the
LCFD site at
http://www.lcfd.org/ Scroll to the "News and Articles"
section and click on "Gender-free caller's manual and history" to
download Chris Ricciotti's history of and instructions for role-free
dancing. This is the most important resource that I know of. It
includes popular contra dances written out with traditional calling
terminology and role-free terminology side by side.
Although popular within the gay and lesbian community, role-free
dancing is available to and enjoyable for everyone. NEFFA's first
programmed role-free session, using armbands, took place in 1990, and
these sessions have become a NEFFA tradition.
There are distinct advantages for callers who become fully comfortable
with dancing either role, even if you never call a specifically
role-free evening of dance. For example, as you plan an evening
program, you will find that you develop better sequences of dances to
call. As you review a dance for possible inclusion in your program,
you'll think more about how the dance choreography works for either
traditional role. After calling a dance that emphasizes the lady's
role, you'll be less likely to follow up with one or two more dances
that make the women do all the work, but will instead make sure that
the gent's role receives proper attention within the overall flow of
dance. The discovery of many more advantages awaits the caller who
looks further into this subject. ... Bob
Robert Jon Golder
New Bedford, MA
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