28 Feb
2012
28 Feb
'12
6:19 a.m.
Linda:
Do you have a electronic copy of Larry's grid?
If so would you please share?
Donna
"Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we should
dance." -unknown
In a message dated 2/27/2012 2:08:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
laleslierjg(a)comcast.net writes:
I agree that men allemande left is found in many good dances and can
be overused in a program; circles and long lines forward and back are
other moves that can fit this category. One of the many advantages to
Caller's Companion, or the use of the grid developed by Larry
Jennings, is to help avoid repetitious moves. Using this feature has
helped in my program planning!
Linda
On Feb 27, 2012, at 1:53 PM, Dhuntdancer(a)aol.com wrote:
I agree.
Does anyone else think that Men allemande Left 1 1/2 is overused?
How about Circle Left 3/4? Lately, I've been programming
specifically to
avoid having a circle in each dance. It's surprisingly difficult
to find
dances that don't have circles.
Donna Hunt
"Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we
should
dance." -unknown
In a message dated 2/27/2012 12:18:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
95sg23(a)comcast.net writes:
I like the "Gang of Four" much better, as IMHO men AL 1 1/2 is the
most
over-used figure in contradancing, and the other dance has (yikes!)
two of
them.
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Hi Luke and all,
This is strongly reminiscent of Gene Hubert's Gang of Four, but I
think yours is distinct.
Joy Greenwolfe
Durham, NC
For comparison:
Gang of Four by Gene Hubert, Jan '92
duple contra Becket
A1
Circle L 3/4
N swing, end facing in promenade position in large oval (gents L
shoulder to the inside)
A2
Promenade around the oval CCW, going around the ends like a bicycle
chain (about 6 steps)
Ladies turn back to swing the new gent behind
B1
All circle L in large oval
Forward and back (make sure you're across from P by the end)
B2
(new) Ladies allemande R 1+1/2
P swing
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I can't tell if I'm remembering or
writing a dance. Anyone recognize
this?
Becket, ccw
A1
Men allemande Left 1.5x
Neighbor swing, end facing cw in big oval (women inside)
A2
Promenade with neighbor
Women turn back and swing new neighbor
B1
Promenade back until across from partner
Men allemande Left 1.5x
B2
Partner gypsy (R) and swing
Thanks.
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28 Feb
6:39 a.m.
New subject: Overused figures
Yes, I do, and I am happy to share it! Larry published his in "Give &
Take". In his printed version, the axes are rotated so that the dance
moves appear in the first column on the left. In the blank version
(attached), you can set it up in whatever way that seems helpful. The
second grid has some dance moves added in, but along the top of the
grid. I am attaching the 2 pdf's, which I shared at a workshop at
RPDLW a few years back. The Caller's Companion "Program Matrix"
function is based on this type grid.
We should all thank Larry for having shared this method of organizing
with us. I hope you find it helpful!
warmly, Linda
On Feb 27, 2012, at 2:19 PM, Dhuntdancer(a)aol.com wrote:
Linda:
Do you have a electronic copy of Larry's grid?
If so would you please share?
Donna
"Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we
should
dance." -unknown
In a message dated 2/27/2012 2:08:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
laleslierjg(a)comcast.net writes:
I agree that men allemande left is found in many good dances and can
be overused in a program; circles and long lines forward and back are
other moves that can fit this category. One of the many advantages to
Caller's Companion, or the use of the grid developed by Larry
Jennings, is to help avoid repetitious moves. Using this feature has
helped in my program planning!
Linda
On Feb 27, 2012, at 1:53 PM, Dhuntdancer(a)aol.com wrote:
I agree.
Does anyone else think that Men allemande Left 1 1/2 is overused?
How about Circle Left 3/4? Lately, I've been programming
specifically to
avoid having a circle in each dance. It's surprisingly difficult
to find
dances that don't have circles.
Donna Hunt
"Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we
should
dance." -unknown
In a message dated 2/27/2012 12:18:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
95sg23(a)comcast.net writes:
I like the "Gang of Four" much better, as IMHO men AL 1 1/2 is the
most
over-used figure in contradancing, and the other dance has (yikes!)
two of
them.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joy Greenwolfe" <joy2the(a)mindspring.com>
To: "Caller's discussion list" <callers(a)sharedweight.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 12:46:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Callers] Does this exist?
Hi Luke and all,
This is strongly reminiscent of Gene Hubert's Gang of Four, but I
think yours is distinct.
Joy Greenwolfe
Durham, NC
For comparison:
Gang of Four by Gene Hubert, Jan '92
duple contra Becket
A1
Circle L 3/4
N swing, end facing in promenade position in large oval (gents L
shoulder to the inside)
A2
Promenade around the oval CCW, going around the ends like a bicycle
chain (about 6 steps)
Ladies turn back to swing the new gent behind
B1
All circle L in large oval
Forward and back (make sure you're across from P by the end)
B2
(new) Ladies allemande R 1+1/2
P swing
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http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers I can't tell if I'm remembering or
writing a dance. Anyone
recognize
this?
Becket, ccw
A1
Men allemande Left 1.5x
Neighbor swing, end facing cw in big oval (women inside)
A2
Promenade with neighbor
Women turn back and swing new neighbor
B1
Promenade back until across from partner
Men allemande Left 1.5x
B2
Partner gypsy (R) and swing
Thanks.
--
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www.lukedonev.com
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7:14 a.m.
New subject: program matrix
On the very top of each of my dance cards I have printed the dance's
corresponding row in the dance matrix. From the stack of cards for a planed
dance the matrix appears. No need to fill out
a separate grid each time.
7:28 a.m.
New subject: Overused figures
Hi All,
Interesting discussion.
One of the neat aspects of contra dance (for me) is that so few figures are
used to
make up dances (as opposed to MWSD). The transitions between them and how they
are put together generate interesting and fun dances.
There are certain combination that appear frequently. One that I try to limit
using is
a (P or N) swing followed by CL 3/4 (N or P) swing which can make for a dizzy
dance.
Cheers, Bill
7:59 a.m.
New subject: Overused figures
Many times a dance can be slightly modified with a different move that gets the same
result. An example of this is that a Give and Take can easily replace a Circle Left 3/4
when the next move is a swing. B&Sw N, CL 3/4, Sw P can thus be B&Sw N, G&T
where gents bring back the lady, Sw P.
Dave Colestock
Harrisburg, PA
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From: Bill Baritompa <staf186(a)ext.canterbury.ac.nz>
Subject: Re: [Callers] Overused figures
To: "Caller's discussion list" <callers(a)sharedweight.net>
Date: Monday, February 27, 2012, 3:28 PM
Hi All,
Interesting discussion.
One of the neat aspects of contra dance (for me) is that so few figures are used to
make up dances (as opposed to MWSD). The transitions between them and how they
are put together generate interesting and fun dances.
There are certain combination that appear frequently. One that I try to limit using is
a (P or N) swing followed by CL 3/4 (N or P) swing which can make for a dizzy dance.
Cheers, Bill
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8:38 a.m.
New subject: program matrix
Can you explain this further. Specifically, what is "the dance's
corresponding row in the dance matrix".
Rickey
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Subject: [Callers] program matrix
On the very top of each of my dance cards I have printed the dance's
corresponding row in the dance matrix. From the stack of cards for a planed
dance the matrix appears. No need to fill out a separate grid each time.
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9:41 a.m.
New subject: program matrix
Hi Greg and Rickey,
I've attached a photo of a few dance cards to show the matrix
formed. My cards
are 4x6 so have a bit more room than 3x5. I have a master card that goes behind to
give the column headings. My scheme is a variation of the headings shown in
Linda's example, and rather than tick the appropriate box, I have use a
'shading' code and put some text there too.
The attached example:
The first dance (row) 1B means the dances starts with N Bal and Sw, the blue means
Gents LA. GT and CP in the move 1 and move 2 means this dances has some special
moves, namely Give and Take, and Clapping.
Dance 2 starts with Circle Left and has Pull By as special move
Dance 3 (Another Nice Combination) 1G starts Nbr Gypsy and Sw, it has Part Sw,
P in the Circle Left column mean has transition Circle to pass thru.
I have an excel spread sheet which parses the dances and (attempts) to generate
the top lines.
Cheers, Bill
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