The transition from Star Right to Allemande Right with same neighbors actually flows pretty nicely. You can see a dance with that transition in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCBguZj8zL4 [Note: At the beginning the camera shows only the stage area. It pans to show the dancers at about 1:40. A while later it pans back to the stage then back to dance floor again.] The dance in the video, "You're Among Friends" by Bob Isaacs, is based on "Al's Safeway Produce" by Robert Cromartie. "Al's Safeway Produce" is the first contra in which I recall seeing this sort of transition (in that case from a left hand star to a left allemande). --Jim On Feb 23, 2014, at 10:14 PM, rich sbardella wrote: <earlier essages snipped>

On Feb 23, 2014, at 7:23 PM, Bob Isaacs wrote: The sequence Jack had posted (on behalf of Dean Snipes) was I think I see a source of mis-communication. Notice the line at the start of A2. I believe Bob interpreted this as Gents pass by L shoulder [to face partner] Then all dance 1/2 hey (PR, WL, NR, ML) [to meet partner on M's original side* of the dance] But I think that what Jack (and Dean) meant was Gents start a "half" hey [really 3/8] by passing L shoulder (ML, PR, WL) [to meet neighbor again, all opposite original sides] I'm not saying this to chastise Jack (or Dean, if Jack was quoting Dean verbatim) for poor or ambiguous notation. Nor do I mean to accuse Bob of careless reading. I just want to clear up a point of confusion, and also to point out how easy it is for something that seems perfectly clear to a writer (or speaker) to seem ambiguous-- or, worse, to seem perfectly clear but with a different meaning-- to a reader (or listener). I'll add that it was certainly better for Bob to have studied Jack's message and asked than for him to have simply copied the sequence onto a card, taught it at a dance without having checked it, come across the same point of ambiguity, and then had to sort out the resulting confusion on the spot. [*Note: By "on M's original side", I mean that each man is on the same side as he was at the start of A1, and not, say, that each man is on the same side as he was a the start of the (PR, WL, NR, ML) sequence.] --Jim

I am going to guess the left star at the end progresses to a right star with new neighbors in A1 ________________________________ From: Liz and Bill &lt;staf186(a)ext.canterbury.ac.nz&gt; To: Caller's discussion list &lt;callers(a)sharedweight.net&gt; Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2014 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [Callers] Fwd: New dean dance - is it new? Hi Jack and Bob,       I (mis) read the dance with A1 RH Star; N Right Allemand 1 1/2 A2 1/2 Hey (gents lead start L sh); N Sw which progresses and gives 8 beat swings. I don't recognize it however Cheers, Bill On 24/02/2014 9:40 a.m., Jack Mitchell wrote: _______________________________________________ Callers mailing list Callers(a)sharedweight.net http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers