I agree with Jim. As a dancer, I've danced through a fair number of bouts of caller confusion. My two cents: What seems to me to work best is for the caller to know at least one point in each dance that we might call an anchor point. "Oops, I slipped up there. Find your partner and swing on the side." Or something, preferably with their partners because if they are lost they probably don't know who their neighbors are at the moment. From that point, tell them to wait for the music, then continue from there. Waiting is easier than responding to hash calling, especially unexpected hash calling. Dave Harding On 9/21/2019 10:01 PM, jim saxe via Callers wrote: other list members, especially if they're based on actual experience, but I expect you would find some dancers who seemed *amazingly* resistant to dancing a hash-called recovery routine of the sort that you describe. It's just not the sort of thing contra dancers are trained to expect. supposed to go (if you hadn't muffed a call and sent things of the rails) will want to continue doing what they "know" they're supposed to do and try to help their partners and neighbors to do the same. Unless they think you're going into a contra medley, they may think the calls for your attempted recovery routine are just more mistakes. surrounding dancers to get them through the pattern of a dance--may just have their brains totally full of stuff like "Uh-oh! Something feels wrong! I'm confused! What's going on here? It's probably my fault! Oh, dear; oh, dear; oh dear!" and not have any attention left over for listening to your calls. And if they do try to listen, they might expect that you are attempting to tell them how to do the dance they've just been doing (as opposed to the improvised thing you're actually calling) and they may be surprised that what you say isn't putting them into a familiar place. And if they do get to a place that seems familiar, they might next try to do the thing they have been habituated to do when they get to that familiar place, even if it's not what you call at that point, and even if doing that habitual thing won't help them recover because they're at the "familiar" place 8 or 12 bars later than they would have been there in the original dance. Moreover, those less skilled dancers may also have "experienced" dancers nearby trying to "help" them do whatever those experienced dancers "know" should come next, which, as I said earlier may not be your recovery routine. interactions (so that, for example, there are no interactions with "shadows" and you don't temporarily progress to new neighbors then revisit previous neighbors before progressing for good) a possible recovery method would be to admit that you goofed and then, as the end of the tune approaches say something like "OK. Just look for your next neighbor somehow. WAIT for the music. ... Ready ... set ... Balance and swing" (or some other appropriate thing if the dance begins a different way). between two foursomes. The usual rule in this case is that the stranded couples should go to the bottom of their set. If they don't know to do that on their own, you could tell them: "If you're left out, go to the bottom" or "If you don't have another couple to dance with, go to the bottom" or "Left-over couples, just go the end of the line." And they might do it. Or they might react as if somebody had just turned off your microphone and erected an inch-thick plexiglas wall in front of the stage. the next round of the dance but who are somehow in a different foursome from their partner. If they can't sort that out on their own, I can't think of anything the caller can say over the mic that will help, short of bringing the dance to a stop and getting everyone to regroup. about a different attempt to get dancers to do something on the fly that I hadn't explicitly taught during the walk-through: I was calling to a small group of mixed-skilled (but on average not very skilled) dancers in small city a few hours away from the nearest "hot" contra dance scene and for some reason I had just picked a dance in which only the #1 couples go down the hall and return. I guess I hadn't taught the role of the #2 dancers in maintaining the position of the set, and I saw that the sets were stretching and drifting further down the hall with each repeat. So next time I sent the 1s down the hall, I said something like "2s move up". No effect. Hmm. Maybe the 2s weren't used to identifying themselves as such. So next time after sending couple 1 down the hall, I tried something like "The rest of you, take a step up." No effect. Maybe they weren't used to interpreting "up" in that context. So ... "Couple one go down the hall. [Loudly and clearly:] The rest of you take a step or two toward the stage." I might as well have been whispering into my sleeve. I'm not sure even one person got the message. So I just let the dance run a few more times, drifting gradually down the hall until I decided to end it. As I said: Completely unexpected call == Mic off; plexiglas wall up. callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: place in a dance and the dancers (of course) crash. complete crash and burn. That is, I’d like to be able to recover after I mess up, so the dancers can finish the dance. My tentative plan is below, but I’m making it up, and would love both feedback on my plan and/or other suggested methods of rescuing a dance that has gone off the rails: maintain my head I’m hoping I'd be able to do an extremely simple hash call to get back to the top of the song: side” and then hash calls that amount to going nowhere (Circle or star all the way around, LL forward and back, neighbour do-si-do, partner allemande once around—others?) until 8 bars before the top of the dance (if it’s improper), then say “circle left 3 places” to get them back in the original hands-four position. Then start calling the dance at the top. Does that work? Is there some other approach you’d recommend instead? circle left ¾ bit at the end? waiting for the music to start over again? mess up? 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