Re: 40 bar dances (comments by Chris and David...)
I shouldn't even type this but since I've currently got some time on my
hands... I began to wonder about this version of Cherokee Shuffle. I haven't
ever called it but I'm fairly sure I've danced David's original crooked
version.... (I call the straight version all the time).
When I listen to the YouTube link David provided
) I count it like so:
A1: 8, 8
A2: 8, 8
B1: 8, 12
B2: 8, 12
Mind you, that's before they start riffing all over the place and I can't
quite hear the phrasing. But I'm not hearing both phrases in both B's having
12 beats/counts (let's not get started on that discussion again...!). I'm
only hearing the second phrase in each B as having 12. Is it my imagination?
And I see that as a little different than what Chris might be looking for,
unless I'm misunderstanding his notation of "(AA=8+8 plus BB=12+12)"
that suggests to me that he needs all 4 of the B phrases to be 12. Is that
what you meant Chris?
When I look at David's notation for the dance....
A1: (facing up and down set) w/Ns, F & B; w/N, dos-a-dos; form circle
A2: Bal. Circle; W/N, swing, end progressed
B1: Gs LH turn 1/2; W/P, bal. & swing (12 beats)
B2: Circle L 3/4; Circle Bal. 2x; W/P, California Twirl to swap places, face
The B1 seems a little odd to me because the Gs LH turn 1/2 won't fill 8
beats/counts. I say that's a 4 beat/count figure at best. So 4 +12 = 16 when
it should be 20, shouldn't it?? And that's assuming he mean the notation of
(12 beats) to refer specifically to the balance and swing, which could be
wrong on my part. I don't remember what this should feel like when danced.
I guess there's a reason why I never call the crooked version...! I'd be
interested in any analysis. And like David, I'm curious about the tune the
band has in mind.