I called the dance last night, and it worked very well - it's a keeper.
There was a little tendency for the dancers to finish early, and therefore
begin the Dos-a-do early. I traced this back to the fact that the figure
before the zig zag is a circle left 3/4. The dancers were accomplishing that
is 6 steps and starting (and finishing) the zig zag early. The music was
quite zesty, and the dancers were stepping This wasn't a big problem, and I
was able to fix it by timing my calls differently.
Betty's Night Out
Rich Goss
Improper, Double Prog
A1: Neighbor Dosido and Swing (end facing down hall)
A2: Down hall 4-in-line(4), turn as couples(4); Return(4), hand cast (gents
backing up, 4 counts)
B1: 1/2 Hey, Gents Ricochet Back (Ladies cross rt sh) Partner swing
B2: Circle Left 3/4, As Couples, zig left past current N, zag right around
next N, zig left to couple #3
Regarding the timing in A2, I encouraged the dancers to (a) only take 4 steps
down the hall, and (b) use a courtesy turn. This sets up the timing for the
up the hall and hand cast.
(The hand cast takes 4 full counts, so therefore the up-the-hall can only be 4
steps.)
I had another problem in that some of the gents didn't do the ricochet
correctly, but that was my fault for not demonstrating the oval pattern that
is required.
-John
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 12:14:02 -0400
From: Jack Mitchell <jamitch3(a)mindspring.com>
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That's what I had in mind.
J
On 4/15/2010 11:52 AM, Gary Shapiro wrote:
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 8:31 AM,
richgoss-at-comcast.net wrote:
I don't think there would be enough time for
a hand cast.
The hand cast or gate or wheel around should take place in A2:
A2: Down hall 4-in-line (4), turn as couples (4); return (4), wheel around
(M back up)
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The hand cast or gate or wheel around should take place in A2:
A2: Down hall 4-in-line (4), turn as couples (4); return (4), wheel around
(M back up)
Isn't the usual timing for a down the hall:? down in 4 (6), turn (4), return
(6) ?
I like what you are proposing though.
Rich
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 12:59:09 -0400
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When I've done a dance with a hand cast out of the back up the hall,
it's generally ended up
Down the hall (4 and a bit)
Turn (4 less a bit)
Return (4 and a bit)
Cast (4 less a bit)
The timing can be a bit flexible. In addition, the cast will flow right
into the Hey and so that timing will be a bit squishy too.
Jack
On 4/15/2010 12:52 PM, richgoss(a)comcast.net wrote:
Isn't the usual timing for a down the hall:
down in 4 (6), turn (4), return
(6) ?
I like what you are proposing though.
Rich
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Seems like a good change to the dance.? Thanks!
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When I've done a dance with a hand cast out of the back up the hall,
it's generally ended up
Down the hall (4 and a bit)
Turn (4 less a bit)
Return (4 and a bit)
Cast (4 less a bit)
The timing can be a bit flexible. ?In addition, the cast will flow right
into the Hey and so that timing will be a bit squishy too.
Jack
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Here is the new dance with changes from Jack, and clarification on the
zig-zag:
Betty?s Night Out ? Rich Goss ???? Improper, Double Prog
A1: ? Neighbor Dosido and Swing (end facing down hall)
A2: ? Down hall 4-in-line(4), turn as couples(4); Return(4), hand cast (gents
backing up, ladies walking forward) to send the ladies in to start the half
hey?
B1: 1/2 Hey, Gents Ricochet Back (Ladies cross rt sh) Partner swing
B2: Circle Left 3/4, As Couples, zig left?past current N, zag right around
next N, zig left to couple #3 (to start A1 Dosido)
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 18:45:31 +0000
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I would refer to the action by saying "as couples, weave past two couples,
finish facing 3rd couple". Of course, I come from a square dance background
where we "weave the ring". This would merely be a derivation of that call.
What I'm not clear on is the richochet. I've heard the term, but am not sure
of the execution. Care to elaborate?
Thanks,
Ron Nelson
Chula Vista, CA
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 07:15:55 -0700
From: richgoss(a)comcast.net
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Subject: Re: [Callers] Callers Digest, Vol 68, Issue 12- new dance
Right. Another way to describe it would be:
As couples zig-zag past 2 N couples, moving left around #1 (current), right
around #2, face the #3 (to A1: dosido).
Let me know how it goes if you call it.
Rich
On 4/15/10 6:46 AM, "Ruth Pershing" <rpershing(a)mindspring.com> wrote:
Rich ~
I don't know the answer to your question about whether the dance has
been written, but could you explain the B2 zig-zag figure? Does it
mean that as a couple, you pass by the next couple to the left (women
pass), then next couple by the right (men pass) and the next by the
left (women pass), then get ready to do-si-do a new neighbor for the
next time through?
I might try it this weekend. Thanks,
~Ruth, Chapel Hill NC
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> From: Rich Goss <richgoss(a)comcast.net>
> Date: April 14, 2010 10:15:21 AM EDT
> To: Shared Weight <callers(a)sharedweight.net>
> Subject: [Callers] New Dance
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>
>
> Wrote this dance recently in honor of one of our dancers who
> recently passed
> away, Betty Stewart. Has this one already been written?
>
> Betty?s Night Out Rich Goss
> Improper, Double Prog
>
> A1: Neighbor Dosido and Swing (end facing down hall)
> A2: Down hall 4-in-line, turn as couples; Return, face across
> B1: 1/2 Hey, Gents Ricochet Back (Ladies cross rt sh)
> Partner swing
> B2: Circle Left 3/4
> As Couples, zig left, zag right, zig left
>
>
> Rich, Portland Or
>
>
>
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The ladies perform the 1/2 hey, crossing the set.?
The gents start the 1/2 hey, but meet in the center, touch hands, and bounce
back (or Richochet) ?to their same side.
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I would refer to the action by saying "as couples, weave past two couples,
finish facing 3rd couple". ?Of course, I come from a square dance background
where we "weave the ring". ?This would merely be a derivation of that call.
?
What I'm not clear on is the richochet. I've heard the term, but am not sure
of the execution. Care to elaborate?
?
Thanks,
?
Ron Nelson
Chula Vista, CA
?
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 07:15:55 -0700
From: richgoss(a)comcast.net
To: callers(a)sharedweight.net
Subject: Re: [Callers] Callers Digest, Vol 68, Issue 12- new dance
Right. Another way to describe it would be:
As couples zig-zag past 2 N couples, moving left around #1 (current), right
around #2, face the #3 (to A1: dosido).
Let me know how it goes if you call it.
Rich
On 4/15/10 6:46 AM, "Ruth Pershing" <rpershing(a)mindspring.com> wrote:
Rich ~
I don't know the answer to your question about whether the dance has
been written, but could you explain the B2 zig-zag figure? Does it
mean that as a couple, you pass by the next couple to the left (women
pass), then next couple by the right (men pass) and the next by the
left (women pass), then get ready to do-si-do a new neighbor for the
next time through?
I might try it this weekend. Thanks,
~Ruth, Chapel Hill NC
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>
> Wrote this dance recently in honor of one of our dancers who
> recently passed
> away, Betty Stewart. Has this one already been written?
>
> Betty?s Night Out Rich Goss
> Improper, Double Prog
>
> A1: Neighbor Dosido and Swing (end facing down hall)
> A2: Down hall 4-in-line, turn as couples; Return, face across
> B1: 1/2 Hey, Gents Ricochet Back (Ladies cross rt sh)
> Partner swing
> B2: Circle Left 3/4
> As Couples, zig left, zag right, zig left
>
>
> Rich, Portland Or
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 15:00:54 -0400
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Start a hey, ladies pass R, pass P by L on outside, gents meet and then
bounce back to end up on their partner's left for the swing (it can be
nice if the lady catches her partner for the swing.
J
On 4/15/2010 2:45 PM, Ron Nelson wrote:
I would refer to the action by saying "as
couples, weave past two couples,
finish facing 3rd couple". Of course, I come from a square dance background
where we "weave the ring". This would merely be a derivation of that call.
What I'm not clear on is the richochet. I've heard the term, but am not sure
of the execution. Care to elaborate?
Thanks,
Ron Nelson
Chula Vista, CA
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 07:15:55 -0700
From: richgoss(a)comcast.net
To: callers(a)sharedweight.net
Subject: Re: [Callers] Callers Digest, Vol 68, Issue 12- new dance
Right. Another way to describe it would be:
As couples zig-zag past 2 N couples, moving left around #1 (current), right
around #2, face the #3 (to A1: dosido).
Let me know how it goes if you call it.
Rich
On 4/15/10 6:46 AM, "Ruth Pershing"<rpershing(a)mindspring.com> wrote:
> Rich ~
>
> I don't know the answer to your question about whether the dance has
> been written, but could you explain the B2 zig-zag figure? Does it
> mean that as a couple, you pass by the next couple to the left (women
> pass), then next couple by the right (men pass) and the next by the
> left (women pass), then get ready to do-si-do a new neighbor for the
> next time through?
>
> I might try it this weekend. Thanks,
>
> ~Ruth, Chapel Hill NC
>
>
> On Apr 14, 2010, at 11:57 AM, callers-request(a)sharedweight.net wrote:
>
>
>> From: Rich Goss<richgoss(a)comcast.net>
>> Date: April 14, 2010 10:15:21 AM EDT
>> To: Shared Weight<callers(a)sharedweight.net>
>> Subject: [Callers] New Dance
>> Reply-To: Caller's discussion list<callers(a)sharedweight.net>
>>
>>
>> Wrote this dance recently in honor of one of our dancers who
>> recently passed
>> away, Betty Stewart. Has this one already been written?
>>
>> Betty?s Night Out Rich Goss
>> Improper, Double Prog
>>
>> A1: Neighbor Dosido and Swing (end facing down hall)
>> A2: Down hall 4-in-line, turn as couples; Return, face across
>> B1: 1/2 Hey, Gents Ricochet Back (Ladies cross rt sh)
>> Partner swing
>> B2: Circle Left 3/4
>> As Couples, zig left, zag right, zig left
>>
>>
>> Rich, Portland Or
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Don't forget that the registration deadline for the Callers Workshop
with Lisa Greenleaf is coming up. At this point, we're about half full,
and I expect more registrations to be coming in over the next week or
so. If you've been planning to send in your registration and haven't
sent it yet, please get it in soon.
The workshop will be the weekend of May 21-23, held at a variety of
locations in the Chapel Hill area. We will get started on Friday
evening around 7:00 for an opening gathering, will meet all day (8:30 -
4:30) on Saturday, have a dance Saturday evening, and then wrap up with
a Sunday brunch and closing discussion on Sunday from 11:00 - 2:00 or so.
The registration form can be downloaded here:
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