4 Jul
2013
4 Jul
'13
5:38 p.m.
Michael, I guess that question should be directed at the person who first crafted the
variation and called it 33334, not me. I actually learned that version first. Then I
learned the original. And in my notes and card the variation had that name, but was
credited to SZA, as was the original. That was long ago, and I don't remember the
caller who called it, or where, but that is how I learned it. I'd be interested in
knowing who first came up with the variation and when it was introduced. And, I'd be
especially interested in Steve's comparison of the dances.
Bree, I don't disagree with you - 33333 is certainly a classic. But the dance The
Cherokee Shuffle, written by David Kaynor to the same named crooked tune, is also a
classic, and the modern version that many of us have danced is often credited to Robert
Cromartie, and that is the non-crooked version. If something works, it works. But even
some of the old classics have modern contemporary versions. The folk process at work,
again.
Dave Colestock
New Cumberland, PA
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I agree with Michael. Especially in the case of a classic.
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There are thousands of contras. If one doesn't work, why not try
another one instead of altering that one?
Michael Barraclough
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Instead of the Ladies Dosido 1.5 at the end to
progress, just have the Ladies AL 1 1/2 in the center, with RH ready for the next
neighbor. Some in the caller community have dubbed this version of the dance 3-33-34.
Dave Colestock
New Cumberland, PA
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Subject: Re: [Callers] Tampering with a classis aagain 3-33-33
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Date: Thursday, June 20, 2013, 2:10 PM
I've had pretty good luck with it, possibly because I have the women ID the next
neighbor early on. They know which face to look for. After that, they get a better feel
for the area to aim for to find the new neighbor. A couple of seriously disoriented
dancers can really play havoc with this dance though. It's brittle.
Kalia
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this great dance recently
and noticed that dancers of various experience levels in several venues have
had trouble with the transition in the B2 from the Ladies Do-si-do 1 1/2 to
the balance with the next neighbor that starts the dance. They have trouble
finding that next neighbor, even after several times through, and with
translating the momentum of crossing the set to that of up and down the line
of the first part of the dance. I tried substituting an allemande right 1
1/2 for the do-si-do 1 1/2 of the original with little effect. What about a
ladies allemande right about 1 1/2 to a next neighbor allemande left and
then starting the dance again with a balance by the right with that
neighbor? Other solutions? Have you or your dancers noticed the problem
that I have seen. As always, thanks for your thoughts.
Rickey Holt
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