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 Hanny, could. It be devil's dervish by Linda Leslie?
 All best,
 Kim
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    1. Re: Shadow Dances? (Greg McKenzie)
    2. Report Back:  Hello and a few questions... (Don Veino)
    3. Re: Report Back:  Hello and a few questions... (Colin Hume)
    4. Groundhog day (Walter)
    5. Re: Groundhog day (Luke Donforth)
    6. Re: Shadow Dances? (Luke Donforth)
    7. Double contra - whodunnit? (Hanny Budnick)
    8. Easy and Fun (holt.e(a)comcast.net)
    9. Re: Double contra - whodunnit? (Chris Page)
   10. Re: Double contra - whodunnit? (Bree Kalb)
   11. Re: Easy and Fun (Donald Primrose)
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 Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 20:30:36 -0800
 From: Greg McKenzie <grekenzie(a)gmail.com
 
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 Colin wrote:
  Surely the objection to mixers (in The States) is
that you don't  
 get to
 swing your original partner every time through the dance.  In  
 most mixers
 you wouldn't swing the same shadow every time - if you did I'd  
 change the
 starting format so that the person you swing is actually the one  
 you 
 asked
> to dance.
  
 I suspect that the real objection to unannounced mixers is that  
 they remove
 control of the partnering process from the dancers.  With a shadow  
 dance
 every dancer is assigned a second "partner" in the form of a shadow,
 someone they might not want to partner with.  That's why some  
 dislike
 shadow swings.
 I like mixers, in general.  But I also think it is very important to
 empower the dancers to partner with whomever they wish.  This is  
 key to
 integrating first-timers as well.  When you give control of the  
 partnering
 process to the regulars you also give responsibility to the  
 regulars for
 integrating newcomers.  It is important to maintain the caller- 
 dancer trust
 relationship.
 - Greg McKenzie
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 Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 02:33:16 -0500
 From: Don Veino <sharedweight_net(a)veino.com
 
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 Subject: [Callers] Report Back:  Hello and a
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 Hi, I realize I owed a report back on my first gig experience.
 In the simplest summary, it went great. I had planned a program of  
 more
 basic, very connected dances based upon the crowd I was expecting.  
 It
 turned out that we had zero newbies and kept most of the crowd  
 from the
 start right through to the end, which made me want to stretch the  
 material
 in the second half. I ended up pulling up a few cards I'd prepped  
 for
 another venue, and modified a bit for better connection/ 
 orientation (eg: in
 *A Rare Bird* making the pass bys into pull bys, gypsy to  
 allemande, etc.)
 and all went well.
 To the best of my recollection, my program was:
 Alamo Intro - Circle - Al Green
 Get Me Going - DI - Lisa Greenleaf
 Broken Transcription - DI - Don Veino (yet another variant on Broken
 Sixpence)
 Polymorphous' Reel - DI - Christine Hale (dance written in honor  
 of the
 prior incarnation of the band, request by organizer)
 You're Among Friends - DI - Bob Isaacs
 Butter - Becket - Gene Hubert (my video of this night's walk- 
 through and
 dance at 
http://youtu.be/pqSoOvu2wI0 )
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 Nail That Catfish To The Tree - DI - Walter Davies [+Bob Dalsemer]
 (unfortunately, tune was not in the band's portfolio)
 Special Delivery - Becket - Nell Wright
 Redbeard Reel - Becket - Bob Isaacs (written for dancers that were  
 present)
 A Rare Bird - DI - Bob Isaacs, var: Lisa Greenleaf, plus mods on  
 the fly by
 me
 The Big Easy - DI - Becky Hill
 I had two points of trickiness in my teaching. In Special  
 Delivery, my prep
 notes were unclear about whether the B2 L Chain was across or on  
 diagonal
 so I taught it straight across then figured it out in the  
 walkthrough it
 was diagonal. In Rare Bird, I had not refined my language enough  
 in prep to
 clearly describe the current N pull by coming out of the LH Star  
 at the
 bottom of the B2, resulting in me having to talk more than I  
 planned and
 run through a second time to get it across. I now have better card  
 notes
 for both.
 Thanks for the tips and info from this list! I put a bunch of it  
 to good
 use and hope to apply more soon. I got good feedback from several  
 dancers,
 had fun with the band, and the organizer was very happy (and has  
 invited me
 back).
 -Don
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 Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 07:40:43 +0000
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 Don -
 Sounds as if you did a great job - congratulations!
 On 26/12/2011 07:33, Don Veino wrote:
  I now have better card notes for both. 
 That's so important - there are callers who always cause confusion  
 at
 some point in some dance but never change their card!
 Colin Hume
 E-mail: colin(a)colinhume.com  Website:  
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 The applicability of shadow dances notwithstanding, I have also used
 tunnel dances and dances with a dip and dive progression in honor  
 of the
 other piece of the tradition, namely, coming out of the hole to  
 greet
 the whatever.
 Walter
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 Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 09:24:30 -0500
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 The applicability of shadow dances notwithstanding, I have also  
 used tunnel
> dances and dances with a dip and dive progression in honor of the  
> other
> piece of the tradition, namely, coming out of the hole to greet the
> whatever.
> Walter
  
 A nice additional twist, Walter. Do you have favorites for that? I  
 wonder
 if there are any dip & dives that also have shadows...? And now I'm
 contemplating a double-length (128 bar) dance where you meet your  
 shadow
 only every other time... such ways lie madness and sleepless night
 choreographing dances that never get called...
 Thanks though, I like the dip and dive idea.
 --
 Luke Donforth
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 Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 09:26:14 -0500
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  Perhaps with that in mind Luke, if you are going
to have a number  
 of
 shadow dances, let the interaction with the shadow be different  
 in each
 dance: one a swing, the next allemandes, the next a gypsy, a do  
 si do, 
 what
> have you.  Sounds fun.  Wish I could be there. :)
> Andrea
  
 
 A good idea Andrea. I hadn't planned on putting in more than two  
 shadow
 dances in an evening anyway, but even at two I think varying the  
 shadow
 interaction is the way to do it.
 --
 Luke Donforth
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 Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 11:01:53 -0500
 From: Hanny Budnick <kyrmyt(a)cavtel.net
  
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 I failed to note it down immediately after dancing it... Maybe one  
 of you
 can
 fill in the considerable gaps, please:
 1) The choreography stems from 'someone in California'.
 2) Formation: two improper contra lines, close together for a  
 double dance
     across the whole set
 3) there's a hey for all eight in it
 Your turn....
 Thanks, Hanny
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 Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 11:03:07 -0500
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 Hi all,
 I am about to call a dance the character of which has changed from  
 what I
 expected and I need some easy dances. I had harder material  
 planned and
 while I do have some material that is probably easy enough, I am  
 not sure
 that it is.  The dance is at a college.  It is for college  
 students only,
 pssibly only students from that college, and we are now hoping for  
 a large
 contingent of beginers; perhaps mostly beginners.  Have you any  
 expereince
 with a similar situation?  I am thinking along the lines of ONS  
 dances,
 although if we made a few into regulars for the regular dance  
 there that
 would be great. So:  "no-partner" dances, mixers (I have January  
 Mixer - a
 great one), Set dances ("Once and to the bottoms") .......
 We intend to have a blast!
 Rickey Holt, Fremont, NH
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 Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 11:14:33 -0500
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 On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Hanny Budnick  
 <kyrmyt(a)cavtel.net> wrote:
  I failed to note it down immediately after
dancing it... Maybe  
 one of you
 can fill in the considerable gaps, please:
 1) The choreography stems from 'someone in California'.
 2) Formation: two improper contra lines, close together for a  
 double 
 dance
  ? across the whole set
 3) there's a hey for all eight in it
 Your turn....
 Thanks, Hanny 
 "Major Hey" by Erik Hoffman? It also has Rory o' More slides in it,
 and is 40 bars. Though I think it's a Becket 4-face-4.
 -Chris Page
 San Diego
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 Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 11:17:05 -0500
 From: "Bree Kalb" <bree(a)mindspring.com
  
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 Might be Major Hey by Erik Hoffman.  Here's a link to a previous  
 discussion
 and description on this list.
 
http://www.sharedweight.net/pipermail/callers/2007-December/001112.html
 Bree Kalb
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 To: Callers(a)sharedweight.net
 Subject: [Callers] Double contra - whodunnit?
 I failed to note it down immediately after dancing it... Maybe one  
 of you
 can
 fill in the considerable gaps, please:
 1) The choreography stems from 'someone in California'.
 2) Formation: two improper contra lines, close together for a  
 double dance
     across the whole set
 3) there's a hey for all eight in it
 Your turn....
 Thanks, Hanny
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 Something to check on.. depends on the day of the week, and is  
 there a
 potential that students have been drinking.  Changes the dance.
 & go with the normal stuff.. no need to dumb it down, after all they
 asked you to call a contra.. I assume,
 -don
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  Hi all,
 I am about to call a dance the character of which has changed  
 from what I
 expected and I need some easy dances. I had harder material  
 planned and
 while I do have some material that is probably easy enough, I am  
 not sure
 that it is.  The dance is at a college.  It is for college  
 students only,
 pssibly only students from that college, and we are now hoping  
 for a 
 large
  contingent of beginers; perhaps mostly beginners.
 Have you any 
 expereince
  with a similar situation?  I am thinking along
the lines of ONS  
 dances,
 although if we made a few into regulars for the regular dance  
 there that
 would be great. So:  "no-partner" dances, mixers (I have January  
 Mixer - 
 a
> great one), Set dances ("Once and to the bottoms") .......
> We intend to have a blast!
> Rickey Holt, Fremont, NH
  
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