That's it. Formally known as the "Weston Mountain Zia formation". Where the
lines connect/intersect every other time through the dance you have a square when the
dancers are 'out' at the 'top'. Most Zia's I've seen have the
choreographic challenge/limitation that the moves/calls for the square have to be
effectively the same as in the contra (which is why the swing tends to be in the middle).
Seth Tepfer 770-784-8487 seth.tepfer(a)emory.edu
Director of Administrative Computing, Oxford College
Proud Pappa (again): Zyle Caspian, born Thursday, April 17, 2:38 pm. 8 lbs, 19.5 inches.
Baby Pix at: 
  -----Original Message-----
 From: callers-bounces(a)sharedweight.net [mailto:callers-
 bounces(a)sharedweight.net] On Behalf Of Richard Hart
 Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 1:21 PM
 To: Caller's discussion list
 Subject: Re: [Callers] Zia Formation
 I'm not familiar with the name "Zia", bit I remember doing a dance at
 NEFFA that was essentially four contra lines at right angles to each
 other, with  a square formed by the first couples at the point where
 the
 lines joined. The other couples in the contras lines could be
 considered
 additional concentric squares, but they seemed to operate more like
 contra lines, with interesting things happening at the point where they
 joined.
 Am I confusing two different formations?
 Rich.
 Tepfer, Seth remarked on 7/28/2008 1:01 PM:
  I do not know if there are any 'experts'
on the zia formation.
 When I've done more than 1 intersection I've tried to have a few 
 hands
four/minor sets between each square/intersection.
 
 The most I've done is with 9 squares (at SnowBall, Tampa FL) in a 
 tic-tac-toe
formation. But, as has probably been noted, Zia's are
 incredible space hogs. And due to the choreography quirks of the
 formation, they seem to have the swings in the middle of the set, which
 takes up even more space. Every time I've done it, people get crowded.
 
 Seth Tepfer 770-784-8487 seth.tepfer(a)emory.edu
 Director of Administrative Computing, Oxford College
 Proud Pappa (again): Zyle Caspian, born Thursday, April 17, 2:38 pm. 
 8 lbs, 19.5
inches. Baby Pix at:
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/25804137@N08/
 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: callers-bounces(a)sharedweight.net [mailto:callers-
> bounces(a)sharedweight.net] On Behalf Of Jerome Grisanti
> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 12:25 PM
> To: callers(a)sharedweight.net
> Subject: Re: [Callers] Zia Formation
>
> Jack,
>
> I can picture three squares created by one longways contra line 
 crossed
 > by
> three "east-west" contra lines, with squares at each intersection.
>
> I can picture four squares composed of either two longways and two
> "east-west" contra lines, or one longways and four "east-west"
 contra
 > lines.
>
>
> I'm presuming the "two-by-two" arrangement would create the
"closed
> box,"
> i.e. four squares without contra lines between (but contra lines on 
 the
 > outside).
>
> This is only my conjecture, however, and I await an expert opinion.
>
> --Jerome
>
>
>
> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 08:58:42 -0400
>
>> From: Jack Mitchell <jamitch3(a)mindspring.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Callers] Zia Formation
>> To: Caller's discussion list <callers(a)sharedweight.net>
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>> This looks really interesting....but I'm having some trouble
>> picturing how the multiple square arrangements would work.  2 
 Squares
 >> I can picture, but I'm a little
unsure about how three squares 
 would
 >> be laid out and even less sure what the
difference between "Four
>> Squares" and "Four Squares -- closed box" is.  Anyone care to step
 up
    with some clarification?
 Jack
 
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